The 2014 Draft

[Chidi29]

Big fan of Enunwa. Just did a report on him today.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2014/04...quincy-enunwa/

[st33lersguy]

Really starting to warm up to Fuller at pick 15 and really wouldn't mind picking him over Gilbert and Dennard because he seems to have less drawbacks in his game, and that is why I understand the argument for Fuller

Though I still prefer the other two over Fuller, and not just because of stock. For Gilbert, though he is less physical, he seems to be a better playmaker and appears to be a better guy to address the interception issue. Also faced high-octane offenses playing in the Big 12 and can serve as a kick returner. For Dennard it is for his excellent track record as a player at Michigan State as well as his contributions to a dominant defense that carried that Michigan State team to the Rose Bowl culminating in collecting the Jim Thorpe Award. Though his physical nature can be seen as a drawback in a whimpified NFL, I like his physical nature and he can bring an intimidation factor that is needed. Some see height as a drawback but he is really only an inch smaller than Fuller and Gilbert.

Also on the subject, I would stay away from Bradley Roby, he was burned too often last year.

[Aussie_steeler]

Really starting to warm up to Fuller at pick 15 and really wouldn't mind picking him over Gilbert and Dennard because he seems to have less drawbacks in his game, and that is why I understand the argument for Fuller

Though I still prefer the other two over Fuller, and not just because of stock. For Gilbert, though he is less physical, he seems to be a better playmaker and appears to be a better guy to address the interception issue. Also faced high-octane offenses playing in the Big 12 and can serve as a kick returner. For Dennard it is for his excellent track record as a player at Michigan State as well as his contributions to a dominant defense that carried that Michigan State team to the Rose Bowl culminating in collecting the Jim Thorpe Award. Though his physical nature can be seen as a drawback in a whimpified NFL, I like his physical nature and he can bring an intimidation factor that is needed. Some see height as a drawback but he is really only an inch smaller than Fuller and Gilbert.

Also on the subject, I would stay away from Bradley Roby, he was burned too often last year.

Fuller ticks many of the boxes for a steeler CB and team player.

* 6 foot plus
* 4.40 speed
* plays off zone
* loves to tackle
* plays physical defence
* can blitz from the corner
* leadership qualities
* plays special teams

Throw in 2 brothers in the NFL, Vincent and Corey who have no doubt given him insight into life as an NFL player.

May not have superstar traits, but has most of the traits that are innate in very good football players who churn out long NFL careers.

Round 1 for me is still: Kelvin Benjamin - 1 and Kyle Fuller - 2

[Shoes]

I hope this isn't so.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports at least "one of the Steelers people" think Florida State WR Kelvin Benjamin is the second-best receiver in the draft behind Clemson's Sammy Watkins.

Beat writer Gerry Dulac believes there's a "very good chance" the Steelers grab Benjamin with the No. 15 overall pick next Thursday night. Most in the Steelers organization are higher on Mike Evans, but Evans is fully expected to be long gone by the time the Steelers are on the clock. Benjamin would give the Steelers an infusion of size that they badly need at the position and a red-zone presence.
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Source: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

[Steeltreal]

I hope this isn't so.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports at least "one of the Steelers people" think Florida State WR Kelvin Benjamin is the second-best receiver in the draft behind Clemson's Sammy Watkins.

Beat writer Gerry Dulac believes there's a "very good chance" the Steelers grab Benjamin with the No. 15 overall pick next Thursday night. Most in the Steelers organization are higher on Mike Evans, but Evans is fully expected to be long gone by the time the Steelers are on the clock. Benjamin would give the Steelers an infusion of size that they badly need at the position and a red-zone presence.
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Source: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

I like it. A 1st Round pick who will make an Instant Impact.

[Dwinsgames]

I hope this isn't so.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports at least "one of the Steelers people" think Florida State WR Kelvin Benjamin is the second-best receiver in the draft behind Clemson's Sammy Watkins.

Beat writer Gerry Dulac believes there's a "very good chance" the Steelers grab Benjamin with the No. 15 overall pick next Thursday night. Most in the Steelers organization are higher on Mike Evans, but Evans is fully expected to be long gone by the time the Steelers are on the clock. Benjamin would give the Steelers an infusion of size that they badly need at the position and a red-zone presence.
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Source: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Just say no .....

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I like it. A 1st Round pick who will make an Instant Impact.

he has a 50% chance at success and a 50% chance of being an out an out bust those kind of odds belong in the 3rd and 4th round

[SteelerFanInStl]

I hope this isn't so.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports at least "one of the Steelers people" think Florida State WR Kelvin Benjamin is the second-best receiver in the draft behind Clemson's Sammy Watkins.

Beat writer Gerry Dulac believes there's a "very good chance" the Steelers grab Benjamin with the No. 15 overall pick next Thursday night. Most in the Steelers organization are higher on Mike Evans, but Evans is fully expected to be long gone by the time the Steelers are on the clock. Benjamin would give the Steelers an infusion of size that they badly need at the position and a red-zone presence.
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Source: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

I'm with you. I just don't see it in Benjamin. He's got bust written all over him. There's not really anything other than his size that I like about him.

[st33lersguy]

I hope this isn't so.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports at least "one of the Steelers people" think Florida State WR Kelvin Benjamin is the second-best receiver in the draft behind Clemson's Sammy Watkins.

Beat writer Gerry Dulac believes there's a "very good chance" the Steelers grab Benjamin with the No. 15 overall pick next Thursday night. Most in the Steelers organization are higher on Mike Evans, but Evans is fully expected to be long gone by the time the Steelers are on the clock. Benjamin would give the Steelers an infusion of size that they badly need at the position and a red-zone presence.
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Source: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The weight of Mike Williams from Detroit and the hands of Limas Sweed. Out of all the potential first round picks he is the surest bust

[Dwinsgames]

This is the Lying season , aka smokescreen season , aka bullshit season .....

intentional release of false information season ......

call it what you will , but after 10 min of frustration I laughed and remembered the Jerome Simpson rumors before the draft in 2008 , this Likely the same sort of deal

[Shoes]

This is the Lying season , aka smokescreen season , aka bullshit season .....

intentional release of false information season ......

call it what you will , but after 10 min of frustration I laughed and remembered the Jerome Simpson rumors before the draft in 2008 , this Likely the same sort of deal

[Psycho Ward 86]

[QUOTE=st33lersguy;431231]The weight of Mike Williams from Detroit and the hands of Limas Sweed. Out of all the potential first round picks he is the surest bust[/QUOTE=]

dont forget charles rogers lmfao

[Aussie_steeler]

I think Benjamin will have a stellar career if he lands in the spot.

He is a mismatch nightmare that a quality QB can truly exploit.

Tom Brady creates havoc when Gronkowski is on the field. Remember that steelers game last year. Gronkowski shredded the secondary. The flow on effect was the extra time and space for all other receivers who piled up the yards as well. When gronk is injured the patriots offence is a little less intimidating.

I believe Ben can improve his efficiency with a player like Benjamin, and before anyone says it, Moye is not in the same class as Benjamin. Moye is 30 pound lighter than Benjamin and weighing in the same as most DB's. Benjamin does not get moved around like Moye by DB's.

Big Ben produces magic consistently with smurf recievers. However the red zone efficiency can improve if a defence has to account for multiple serious options.

I believe that sharing the field with Big Ben, Antonio Brown, Heath Miller, Lance Moore, LeVeon Bell / La Garette Blount a player of Benjamin's attributes and game film would be able to truly exploit the constant mismatches that he will find himself in.

I have Benjamin as my #3 receiver in this years draft behind #1 Watkins and #2 Evans based on what I expect to happen in the draft. Truth be told I personally rate Benjamin as my #2. I see Evans as a pouty immature WR who has bust written all over him if he lands in the wrong city with the wrong support crew. His game film shows plenty of sideline tantrums when things aren't going his way.

I have supported Benjamin as my first round pick for a good while. I see no reason to change my assessment, even if the media is trying to consistently do so.

Happy to be in the minority on this one.

[Dwinsgames]

another site to check out to go hand and hand with http://www.draftbreakdown.com is this one http://draftvideos.com/category/2014...ideo-profiles/

[Psycho Ward 86]

I think Benjamin will have a stellar career if he lands in the spot.

He is a mismatch nightmare that a quality QB can truly exploit.

Tom Brady creates havoc when Gronkowski is on the field. Remember that steelers game last year. Gronkowski shredded the secondary. The flow on effect was the extra time and space for all other receivers who piled up the yards as well. When gronk is injured the patriots offence is a little less intimidating.

I believe Ben can improve his efficiency with a player like Benjamin, and before anyone says it, Moye is not in the same class as Benjamin. Moye is 30 pound lighter than Benjamin and weighing in the same as most DB's. Benjamin does not get moved around like Moye by DB's.

Big Ben produces magic consistently with smurf recievers. However the red zone efficiency can improve if a defence has to account for multiple serious options.

I believe that sharing the field with Big Ben, Antonio Brown, Heath Miller, Lance Moore, LeVeon Bell / La Garette Blount a player of Benjamin's attributes and game film would be able to truly exploit the constant mismatches that he will find himself in.

I have Benjamin as my #3 receiver in this years draft behind #1 Watkins and #2 Evans based on what I expect to happen in the draft. Truth be told I personally rate Benjamin as my #2. I see Evans as a pouty immature WR who has bust written all over him if he lands in the wrong city with the wrong support crew. His game film shows plenty of sideline tantrums when things aren't going his way.

I have supported Benjamin as my first round pick for a good while. I see no reason to change my assessment, even if the media is trying to consistently do so.

Happy to be in the minority on this one.

theres literally nothing benjamin is better at than evans other than being a bit bigger, but if by some chance in hell we draft benjamin, i hope youre right

[st33lersguy]

theres literally nothing benjamin is better at than evans other than being a bit bigger, but if by some chance in hell we draft benjamin, i hope youre right

There are two things I thought of, dropping passes and skipping private workouts

[Psycho Ward 86]

There are two things I thought of, dropping passes and skipping private workouts

lol...

http://www.chatsports.com/pittsburgh...shek-2-9717135

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/20...ide-receivers/

"Evans had the second lowest drop percentage of all the top receivers in the Draft with only 4.29%"

dont see anywhere online that mike evans skipped a private workout. do you mean him skipping his pro day? thats a very common practice, skipping certain drills or aspects of one's pro day if they want to stand on their combine numbers/workouts. evans had nothing to gain by participating in his pro day. he's already cemented in as a pick in the top half of the 1st round.

yup, still better than benjamin by light years in every way possible.

[Dwinsgames]

Kiper - Mcshay live 3 round mock http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...hay-mock-draft

[Shoes]

another site to check out to go hand and hand with http://www.draftbreakdown.com is this one http://draftvideos.com/category/2014...ideo-profiles/

Thanks for the link Bro. Went direct to CJ's video..the guy has to be a Steeler.

http://draftvideos.com/2014/03/c-j-f...draft-profile/

[Aussie_steeler]

Biggest game of your career before entering the draft.

What a way to show up.

Two personal fouls

Two sideline tantrums

Kept in check by a potential fourth round draft pick

Poor run blocker unless he gets a shot when a guys back is turned.

Manziel leans on the role playing WR's to mount the comeback and win the Chick Fil A Bowl.

Whilst the other guy shows up on the big stage and catches the National Championship.

Give me Benjamin and Ross Cockrell and I am a happy man.

You can keep Mr top ten who won the underwear Olympics.

[Texasteel]

This may be the first time you and I have disagreed on a player Aussie. I don't really want either of them, particularly if I have to give up Fuller to get him. I rather like the 2nd and 3rd round WRs. We do agree on Cockrell on the other hand. I would be very happy with Fuller, Tuitt, Matthews or Latemer, and Cockrell.

[Aussie_steeler]

Not to worry tex.

I am just banging the table for my man. Seeing a ton of hate for him, so I am just trying to highlight the faults of the seemingly faultless.

Like I have said before, I look through a different set of eyes.

Donald is a beast, Fuller is a pure gamer and Benjamin will score in the redzone. Any of those 3 and I will be as happy as a pig in mud.

[LLT]

I'm in the minority...but I think Brandin Cooks is the third best receiver in this draft. Someone is going to get one heck of a player in the latter part of the first round. He might be the best route runner in the draft and with that 4.31 speed...He is a player that a LOT of teams are going to regret passing on.

THAT BEING SAID....outside of Watkins and Evans, I think they will wait until the second round and look at one of three WR's in the second.

In this order.

1) Cody Latimer , Indiana, 6'3 215
2) Donte Moncrief, Ole Miss, 6'2 221
3) Martavis Bryant, Clemson 6'4 211

[Dwinsgames]

I'm in the minority...but I think Brandin Cooks is the third best receiver in this draft. Someone is going to get one heck of a player in the latter part of the first round. He might be the best route runner in the draft and with that 4.31 speed...He is a player that a LOT of teams are going to regret passing on.

THAT BEING SAID....outside of Watkins and Evans, I think they will wait until the second round and look at one of three WR's in the second.

In this order.

1) Cody Latimer , Indiana, 6'3 215
2) Donte Moncrief, Ole Miss, 6'2 221
3) Martavis Bryant, Clemson 6'4 211

I could be wrong , but if it where me pulling the strings unless we nab a DE in round 1 I think we almost have to in round 2 ...

then take the best remaining WR at the back half of 3 and whom that may be is anyone's guess as we could see an early run on WRs in the 2nd that gobbles a lot of them up or we could have some lingering Talent well into round 3 .... but again we just do not know what we are taking in round 1 yet and that could as easily be a WR even though I am in hopes it is not ...

Prefer round 1 CB or DE with a small trade back

Prefer round 2 DE or WR again a small trade back if possible

Prefer round 3 WR or TE ( both if we manage a trade back in prior rounds )

Prefer round 4 DT or a second CB or DE as I would like to double down on 3 pos in this draft CB-DE-WR but can only afford to do that with some minor trade backs early


post round 3 their is only 3 DE in the entire draft that could start in 2014 IMO probably all gone in round 4-5 from my perspective and those are Mauro, Urban and Stinson in that order

[LLT]

I could be wrong , but if it where me pulling the strings unless we nab a DE in round 1 I think we almost have to in round 2 ...

then take the best remaining WR at the back half of 3 and whom that may be is anyone's guess as we could see an early run on WRs in the 2nd that gobbles a lot of them up or we could have some lingering Talent well into round 3 ....

I'm pretty confident WR will be addressed in the first two rounds.


Could there be a scenario in which we grab a DE in the second? Sure...If RaShede Hageman or Stephon Tuitt are still on the board I would think the front office would give them a serious look and then start eyeing WR's in the later rounds.

The problem with that is ...that we give up on looking for a WR with the size/speed ration that the Steelers seem to be looking for. You have to start looking at players like Devin Street, Kevin Norwood, and Brandon Coleman, who are all probably 4th rounders...with none of them being locks to being future starters.

[Dwinsgames]

I'm pretty confident WR will be addressed in the first two rounds.


Could there be a scenario in which we grab a DE in the second? Sure...If RaShede Hageman or Stephon Tuitt are still on the board I would think the front office would give them a serious look and then start eyeing WR's in the later rounds.

The problem with that is ...that we give up on looking for a WR with the size/speed ration that the Steelers seem to be looking for. You have to start looking at players like Devin Street, Kevin Norwood, and Brandon Coleman, who are all probably 4th rounders...with none of them being locks to being future starters.

and late round fliers like Washington

[Steelerette]

I'm pretty confident WR will be addressed in the first two rounds.


Could there be a scenario in which we grab a DE in the second? Sure...If RaShede Hageman or Stephon Tuitt are still on the board I would think the front office would give them a serious look and then start eyeing WR's in the later rounds.

The problem with that is ...that we give up on looking for a WR with the size/speed ration that the Steelers seem to be looking for. You have to start looking at players like Devin Street, Kevin Norwood, and Brandon Coleman, who are all probably 4th rounders...with none of them being locks to being future starters.

This is the reason that Evans tempts me, but we thought we had a more or less sure thing with Sweed didn't we? I won't be able to be mad if we pick Evans but I'd really rather not.

[Dwinsgames]

Latest mock

Round 1 Pick 19 (MIA) Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
Round 2 Pick 25 (S.D.) Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame
Round 3 Pick 17 (MIA) Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson
Round 3 Pick 25 (S.D.) C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE, Iowa
Round 3 Pick 33 (COMP) Daniel McCullers, DT, Tennessee
Round 4 Pick 18 Cameron Fleming, OT, Stanford
Round 5 Pick 17 Andre Williams, RB, Boston College
Round 5 Pick 33 (COMP): Ross Cockrell, CB, Duke
Round 6 Pick 16 Vinnie Sunseri, SS, Alabama
Round 6 Pick 39 (COMP) Max Bullough, ILB, Michigan State
Round 7 Pick 15 Cody Hoffman, WR, Brigham Young

[Steeltreal]

Latest mock

Round 1 Pick 19 (MIA) Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
Round 2 Pick 25 (S.D.) Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame
Round 3 Pick 17 (MIA) Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson
Round 3 Pick 25 (S.D.) C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE, Iowa
Round 3 Pick 33 (COMP) Daniel McCullers, DT, Tennessee
Round 4 Pick 18 Cameron Fleming, OT, Stanford
Round 5 Pick 17 Andre Williams, RB, Boston College
Round 5 Pick 33 (COMP): Ross Cockrell, CB, Dukelo
Round 6 Pick 16 Vinnie Sunseri, SS, Alabama
Round 6 Pick 39 (COMP) Max Bullough, ILB, Michigan State
Round 7 Pick 15 Cody Hoffman, WR, Brigham Young

Curious who SD is chasing or u traded with Miami im confused

[Steelerette]

If we could pick up an extra 3rd and grab Martavis and Fiedorowicz that would be beautiful

[Dwinsgames]

Curious who SD is chasing or u traded with Miami im confused

traded back in first with Miami ( they are after a Tackle )

Traded back in 2nd with Chargers ( who are after a OLB )