The 2014 Draft

[Psycho Ward 86]

I really like Haha Clinton-Dix from Alabama. Good size (6'1'' 208lb), extremely athletic and intelligent, strong ball skills, and an absolute thumper. Really, one of the best players on the best team in the nation (imo) in the best conference. Plays really big in big games. From listening to interviews and reading interview transcripts, he seems extremely passionate for the game.

I think he has even more upside than Kenny Vaccaro. Hard to ask for much more from this kid

Only negatives I can think up are that he does overpursue sometimes (almost all of it on blitzes or tackling RB's) and
some people consider this a negative (you be the judge) but he got suspended 2 games for taking money from his strength/conditioning coach but he had a good reason: He had his car loaded up with his valuables and some money to visit his family in florida but his car got broken into. His coach gave him money to help and hasean took it, only to repay him later.

I mean seriously, does that sound like a bad kid to you? I love this guy, best safety prospect since earl thomas. if we pick him up and shamarko pans out, this could be a top 5 safety tandem in the NFL

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-foo...ama-nick-saban


Thoughts

[blackngldblood]

My only thought at this time is do you think he'll be around at #15?


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[Psycho Ward 86]

My only thought at this time is do you think he'll be around at #15?


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every mock ive seen has him going somewhere between 14-19, so yeah. i dont know who's picking 1-2 spots ahead of us yet but if they need safety help i would totally trade up. im just afraid that he is going to blow people away for interviews and have a good combine. no way in hell he goes top 5. i can see a small chance in the top 10, but those teams at 6-10 seem to have way too many needs and will have too many talented players at those areas of need to pick hasean.

im also worried that someone will really fall in love with this guy and draft him way earlier than projected. kind of like mark barron with the buccaneers. and he's shit compared to hasean

[SteelerFanInStl]

I'd be happy with Clinton-Dix. I think he'll be a hell of a player. I'm also wondering if he'll be around at our pick. The Rams need safety help and so do the Jets.

I think that our biggest position of need is CB but I don't think that there's one in this draft that's worthy of our first pick.

[Psycho Ward 86]

I'd be happy with Clinton-Dix. I think he'll be a hell of a player. I'm also wondering if he'll be around at our pick. The Rams need safety help and so do the Jets.

I think that our biggest position of need is CB but I don't think that there's one in this draft that's worthy of our first pick.

shit, i forgot about their 2nd pick. yeah that pick will be in front of us. and as always, this team always does JUST well enough to get screwed out of picking up that superstar player. the chance is still very much alive. still a much better chance than we had at rashard mendenhall in 2008 (lol...) and david decastro 2 seasons ago.

someone plant a joint in his back pocket. please and thank you

[blackngldblood]

At least we shouldn't have to worry about LT as our first pick now that Beachum has proven himself. I figure it'll be DB, ILB, or maybe WR/TE.

And since I just got done reading a comment of Clark's that says he doesn't think he's crappy enough for "minimum money" we will need a new safety.


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[Dwinsgames]

I think 1 year of production (albeit very good production ) will have some teams looking sideways at him not knowing what to really think , I also think because of the one year of production the learning curve and speed of the game will play a role in his early development at the NFL level especially in a system like Lebeaus where there is so much to learn and its complexity ....

I think in the end whomever drafts him will have to be comfortable in giving him a year to adjust and not be relied upon to be a week 1 contributor as a starter .....

trust me its not a knock on him he has the tools to be a very good player from my perspective but I think for the Steelers we really need to draft players to help us now not a year or two down the road which is our normal MO ...

that is just me , maybe others will see it differently

[Psycho Ward 86]

I think 1 year of production (albeit very good production ) will have some teams looking sideways at him not knowing what to really think , I also think because of the one year of production the learning curve and speed of the game will play a role in his early development at the NFL level especially in a system like Lebeaus where there is so much to learn and its complexity ....

I think in the end whomever drafts him will have to be comfortable in giving him a year to adjust and not be relied upon to be a week 1 contributor as a starter .....

trust me its not a knock on him he has the tools to be a very good player from my perspective but I think for the Steelers we really need to draft players to help us now not a year or two down the road which is our normal MO ...

that is just me , maybe others will see it differently

agree with production standpoint. but i think this is the rare kind of player that can be plug and play for us. im going off the assumption that troy is going to stay for one last hurrah, and if thats so, i think a year of limited playing time will suffice.

his sophomore year when he played sparingly he still made big plays in big games, and i am hoping dearly that teams dont take that into much consideration

[stillers4me]

[Shoes]

Wouldn't the rats pick before us according to this?

http://www.nfl.com/standings

[Chidi29]

Wouldn't the rats pick before us according to this?

http://www.nfl.com/standings

Tiebreaker for the draft is SOS. Different than division tiebreakers which is head-to-head then division record.

[Shoes]

Tiebreaker for the draft is SOS. Different than division tiebreakers which is head-to-head then division record.

Nothing is simple these days!

[Psycho Ward 86]

Damn. The rams and bears are picking at 13 and 14 respectively and they both need safety help. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dra...fl-draft-order

although that seems very high for a safety. hopefully they will overlook Hasean. Come on guys, who do you like? I feel like im talking to myself over here

[Dwinsgames]

Damn. The rams and bears are picking at 13 and 14 respectively and they both need safety help. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dra...fl-draft-order

although that seems very high for a safety. hopefully they will overlook Hasean. Come on guys, who do you like? I feel like im talking to myself over here

Bears may be looking for some beef too for the middle of that D-line , Ra'shede Hageman may be a good fit there ....

and now you know how me an Tex have felt for a few months ( talking to ourselves ) in this part of the forum LOL

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http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php/18983-Summer-Christmas-Holiday-Mock

http://www.steelersuniverse.com/foru...on-ended-today

http://www.steelersuniverse.com/foru...d-giggles-mock

[Psycho Ward 86]

Bears may be looking for some beef too for the middle of that D-line , Ra'shede Hageman may be a good fit there ....

and now you know how me an Tex have felt for a few months ( talking to ourselves ) in this part of the forum LOL

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http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php/18983-Summer-Christmas-Holiday-Mock

http://www.steelersuniverse.com/foru...on-ended-today

http://www.steelersuniverse.com/foru...d-giggles-mock

well i will definitely be around more . although i will only be able to put in my 2 cents for the early rounds

[SteelerFanInStl]

For the Rams it also depends on what they do with the #2 pick. They might be looking at OT for their second pick in the first. They also might trade the #2 pick, which completely changes what they might do.

[Psycho Ward 86]

For the Rams it also depends on what they do with the #2 pick. They might be looking at OT for their second pick in the first. They also might trade the #2 pick, which completely changes what they might do.

not worried about their first pick. that 2nd pick frightens me, i mean safety is probably their #1 need. phenomenal value and need pick if they grab Haha. im seriously hoping for him to bomb the combine or something

[Dwinsgames]

For the Rams it also depends on what they do with the #2 pick. They might be looking at OT for their second pick in the first. They also might trade the #2 pick, which completely changes what they might do.

with the QB situation in this draft and the amount of teams that need one I would bet the farm they trade that #2 over all pick and move back 5 or 6 spots and get a #1 next year for their efforts and potentially another 2 or 3 this year

[SteelerFanInStl]

with the QB situation in this draft and the amount of teams that need one I would bet the farm they trade that #2 over all pick and move back 5 or 6 spots and get a #1 next year for their efforts and potentially another 2 or 3 this year

That's exactly what I expect them to do. If that happens, it will have an effect on what they do with that 2nd pick.

[Texasteel]

I think there are 3 safties that are very close. Clinton-Dix, Dion Bailey ( who just declared for the draft), and Deone Bucannon. Clinton-Dix will likely go in the first round, I think in the mid teens, but I'm just not convinced he is better than the other two, at this point. There are also a few CBs that I personally think would make very good safties, Tre Boston, Antone Exum, and Stanley Jean-Baptiste.

[Dwinsgames]

I still like Stanley Jean-Baptiste FS or Tre Boston FS , I feel the value of either of these players commensurates the pos and their skill sets fit our MO ....

Baptiste is a Corner in College but has the size you would like to cover these big strong pass catching TEs and in our division we see a few of them a couple times a year ( every division opponent has at least 1 of them on their roster ) and Baptiste could be our equalizer /answer to those TEs

[Texasteel]

I still like Stanley Jean-Baptiste FS or Tre Boston FS , I feel the value of either of these players commensurates the pos and their skill sets fit our MO ....

Baptiste is a Corner in College but has the size you would like to cover these big strong pass catching TEs and in our division we see a few of them a couple times a year ( every division opponent has at least 1 of them on their roster ) and Baptiste could be our equalizer /answer to those TEs

this kid as a player I am very intrigued with.

[Aussie_steeler]

[Psycho Ward 86]

lol what did i just read

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I think there are 3 safties that are very close. Clinton-Dix, Dion Bailey ( who just declared for the draft), and Deone Bucannon. Clinton-Dix will likely go in the first round, I think in the mid teens, but I'm just not convinced he is better than the other two, at this point. There are also a few CBs that I personally think would make very good safties, Tre Boston, Antone Exum, and Stanley Jean-Baptiste.

tell us more about the other 2 safeties. im having a hard time evaluating any safety in this draft better than Clinton but im intrigued

[Aussie_steeler]

lol what did i just read

Sorry guys

Just a funny take on the Rams recent draft history from a fan on another forum.
I think it is priceless how the one trade continues to path the way with gold.

New coach to be chosen for the rams and with multiple picks and likely even more now that Les Snead has announced they are looking to trade out of the #2 pick.

This means for us that the #1 FS will be snagged by the rams before the steelers get to the draft podium.

[Psycho Ward 86]

Mark Barron was selected 7th overall folks, and he was projected to be drafted a lot later. I worry the same will happen to Clinton-Dix, who I think will be a much better player

This means for us that the #1 FS will be snagged by the rams before the steelers get to the draft podium.

and naturally, we will sit content at our spot at draft a decent player, but not nearly as dynamic as Clinton-Dix

[Dwinsgames]

and naturally, we will sit content at our spot at draft a decent player, but not nearly as dynamic as Clinton-Dix

fine by me if it happens that way , I am not a proponent in moving up in the draft ....

no unproven talent is worthy of my over all chances at improving esp when I have a team packed full of need

I will be plenty happy nabbing a guy like Baptiste or Boston in the late 3rd or 4th and still having my other picks to fill other needs

[SteelerFanInStl]

Sorry guys

Just a funny take on the Rams recent draft history from a fan on another forum.
I think it is priceless how the one trade continues to path the way with gold.

New coach to be chosen for the rams and with multiple picks and likely even more now that Les Snead has announced they are looking to trade out of the #2 pick.

This means for us that the #1 FS will be snagged by the rams before the steelers get to the draft podium.

Fisher isn't going anywhere so I'm not sure where you're getting that the Rams are going to have a new coach.

It's also not a guarantee that the Rams will take a Safety with their 2nd pick. It's a big need position for them but so is OT with Saffold probably leaving and Long coming off of a knee injury and not getting any younger. Their CBs were terrible this year, outside of Jenkins, and they really need an OLBer to put on the other side of Ogletree. There are many directions for them to go.

[Dwinsgames]

Fisher isn't going anywhere so I'm not sure where you're getting that the Rams are going to have a new coach.

It's also not a guarantee that the Rams will take a Safety with their 2nd pick. It's a big need position for them but so is OT with Saffold probably leaving and Long coming off of a knee injury and not getting any younger. Their CBs were terrible this year, outside of Jenkins, and they really need an OLBer to put on the other side of Ogletree. There are many directions for them to go.

I agree they trade back secure a 1 in next years draft and a first this year and nab a Tackle , later with their other 1st they may take a S or a LB or potentially even Dennard at CB to pair up with Jenkins ( would be a formatable young duo )

[Aussie_steeler]

Fisher isn't going anywhere so I'm not sure where you're getting that the Rams are going to have a new coach.

It's also not a guarantee that the Rams will take a Safety with their 2nd pick. It's a big need position for them but so is OT with Saffold probably leaving and Long coming off of a knee injury and not getting any younger. Their CBs were terrible this year, outside of Jenkins, and they really need an OLBer to put on the other side of Ogletree. There are many directions for them to go.

Sorry Brain fart. Schwartz ( Lions coach) got canned this morning.

Been reading a lot this morning and got my wires crossed.

Les Snead will be looking to maximise the value he has accumulated from the original RG3 trade. I think Rams could end up with a combo like Sammy Watkins / Dix and a future #1 for the overall #2 pick.

They could be a force in a couple of years under JEFF FISHER.