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    NFL says ACL injuries are down

    NEW YORK -- ACL injuries are down, the NFL has told its Health and Safety Advisory Committee.

    In a memo to the committee sent earlier this week and obtained by The Associated Press, the league said research showed there were 30 ACL injuries in games through the preseason and first 13 weeks of the schedule. There were 39 such injuries in 2012, 35 in 2011, 37 in 2010, and 31 in 2009.

    Anterior cruciate ligament problems are the most severe knee injuries.

    There was an increase in medial collateral ligament injuries (MCL), from 74 in 2012 to 89 in games this season through 13 weeks. But there were 106 MCL injuries in 2011, 89 in 2010 and 103 in 2009.

    more: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10...3-weeks-season

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    Re: NFL says ACL injuries are down

    Well let's not let some facts get in the way of a perfectly good narrative...

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    Re: NFL says ACL injuries are down

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    Re: NFL says ACL injuries are down

    Quote Originally Posted by Chidi29 View Post
    Well let's not let some facts get in the way of a perfectly good narrative...
    Notice this doesn't include training camp. before pre-season. Seems there were plenty of those this year. Also MCLs and SCLs usually are never blamed on being in shape, as Belicheater prepossess. Usually Hamstrings and groin injuries tend to come with guys who have held out and not been in shape
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    Re: NFL says ACL injuries are down

    Quote Originally Posted by NCSteeler View Post
    Notice this doesn't include training camp. before pre-season. Seems there were plenty of those this year. Also MCLs and SCLs usually are never blamed on being in shape, as Belicheater prepossess. Usually Hamstrings and groin injuries tend to come with guys who have held out and not been in shape
    I'm assuming the numbers from previous years are being taken from the same time frame. And the study was an independent one, not conducted by the league. So reasonable to assume there wasn't bias.

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    Re: NFL says ACL injuries are down

    Quote Originally Posted by Chidi29 View Post
    I'm assuming the numbers from previous years are being taken from the same time frame. And the study was an independent one, not conducted by the league. So reasonable to assume there wasn't bias.
    Depends. Who's footing the bill for the study?

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    Re: NFL says ACL injuries are down

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Depends. Who's footing the bill for the study?
    Until there's any proof of that, can't assume there is. And even if the league paid for it, you'd have to find out the numbers aren't true or the data skewed.

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    Re: NFL says ACL injuries are down

    Quote Originally Posted by Chidi29 View Post
    Until there's any proof of that, can't assume there is. And even if the league paid for it, you'd have to find out the numbers aren't true or the data skewed.
    Just prior to Quintiles announcement of its Outcome Sciences acquisition in 2011, Outcome had announced it would work with the NFL to update its Injury Surveillance System, the primary source for injury reporting in the NFL. Outcome provides technology and hosting services for the system and also gives the NFL and its committees epidemiological and biostatistical expertise to analyze NFL injury data and support related medical research.
    http://wraltechwire.com/nfl-knee-inj...inds/13247968/



    After the concussion flap, I tend to take claims the NFL makes in regard to injuries being down with a grain of salt.

    To be completely fair though, maybe it just seems like it's up to me because our team has been particularly hard hit this year:

    Based on this count, the Packers (14), Redskins (13), Colts (12), Jets (12), Panthers (12) and Steelers (12) are the teams currently with the most injured players on reserve lists.
    And to touch on NCSteelers' comment about preseason injuries:

    We counted 27 preseason ACL injuries, the highest tally since records were first kept in 2004. Past preseason counts ranged from 12 (2005, 2006) to 25 (2008), though preseason rosters were also increased from 80 to 90 players in April 2012, putting an additional 320 players in camps.
    2013: Year of the Injury?

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    Re: NFL says ACL injuries are down

    Well go comb through the numbers, I guess. See if they really are skewing them.

    And it's ok to work with somebody and not be biased. Obviously the company was approached to conduct this study. Just like any others, I imagine.

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