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    Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    all reports are in addition to being injured, he is really blowing goats when he gets on the field.

    when your competition is summers, redman, and the eagles dud, you really wanna show more to earn a roster spot. this quote from the article makes me think he may come around, but makes me wonder if he has what it takes to work on a pro level in the first place.

    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_694056.html

    During voluntary workouts, Dwyer, who starred at Georgia Tech, made several impressive runs and looked like a potential backup to starter Rashard Mendenhall.
    Once training camp began, Dwyer looked like a different player -- out of sorts, and perhaps, even a little out of shape.
    Dwyer said he arrived to camp in good shape, although hamstring injuries, especially with a rookie, can indicate a lack of conditioning.
    "I felt like I did enough, but being hurt is a setback for anybody,'' Dwyer said. "I'm just trying to get back in shape. This is a learning experience for me how to take care of my body better, to realize what it takes to become a professional.
    "Everybody goes through trials and tribulations in their lives. This will make me stronger. It's not about getting through each day. It's about doing your best each day and figure out what you did wrong and improving the next day.''

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by tony hipchest View Post
    all reports are in addition to being injured, he is really blowing goats when he gets on the field.

    when your competition is summers, redman, and the eagles dud, you really wanna show more to earn a roster spot. this quote from the article makes me think he may come around, but makes me wonder if he has what it takes to work on a pro level in the first place.

    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_694056.html

    He has the right attitude about it all and I'm confident he will begin to turn it around.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    I think he will be fine just needs more playing time and learn the system. If I remember right Mendenhall struggled some as well.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    He is a rookie and most rookies will struggle in training camp. Given time he should improve.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    I hope he gets some sort of injury late in preseason so he can be stashed on IR for a season. I think the talent is there, he's just not quite ready for the league.

    Redman is the guy by all accounts who's earned the job. It's going to be hard to keep him off the final 53 this year.
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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by zulater View Post
    I hope he gets some sort of injury late in preseason so he can be stashed on IR for a season. I think the talent is there, he's just not quite ready for the league.

    Redman is the guy by all accounts who's earned the job. It's going to be hard to keep him off the final 53 this year.
    Screw that. Stick him on the roster and let him work his way into the groove. You put him on IR and you can't touch him all year. Moore's getting older and who knows how durable Mendy will be over a 16 game season. Who are you gonna carry as the 4th back if it's not him? Vincent? Vincent's a decent enough player, but I'd rather have Dwyer as an option come mid-season.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Hey not great players in the league came out and shined their rookie season. I think over time he will learn the system and begin to turn some heads, we all know his talent is NFL worthy and once he get's his TC feet Im sure he will be impressing.
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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    You can't make the team in the tub.

    Better show up quick.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    I'm getting mixed signals with Dwyer.

    I hear the talking heads say how he isnt doing very well then I read that he had an impressive goal line run....did well against Thadeus Gibson (after whiffing on the first try)...and he is making no excuses.

    I am wondering if the FO is selectively giving reporters information so as to light a fire under Dwyers rookie ass.
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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by LLT View Post
    I'm getting mixed signals with Dwyer.

    I hear the talking heads say how he isnt doing very well then I read that he had an impressive goal line run....did well against Thadeus Gibson (after whiffing on the first try)...and he is making no excuses.

    I am wondering if the FO is selectively giving reporters information so as to light a fire under Dwyers rookie ass.
    I liked the kid in college, but you can't be 100% on how a player might transition to the NFL. It would be a shame, imo, to somehow prove those other 31 teams right about why he was still there in those later rounds. He seemed to really come in with a chip on his shoulder to prove the doubters wrong. Now, if what your saying about the FO has any merit, it wouldn't be the fire under his ass that would worry me... It's the one in his chest (heart). I know it's there, but he's just got to start making the most of this opportunity. And if he came into it out of shape to begin with... that's not a good 1st impression. I hope he will turn it around, or UP... whichever the case may be, but sitting on the sideline certainly won't help.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by vrabinec View Post
    Screw that. Stick him on the roster and let him work his way into the groove. You put him on IR and you can't touch him all year. Moore's getting older and who knows how durable Mendy will be over a 16 game season. Who are you gonna carry as the 4th back if it's not him? Vincent? Vincent's a decent enough player, but I'd rather have Dwyer as an option come mid-season.
    There arent a lot of teams that carry 4 runningbacks

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    I have mixed feelings, but I think he'll get it together. Wasn't too long ago some said Mendy was a bust.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Still have hopes for him. He can turn it around.
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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    I think he just needs time to adjust to the pro level. I'd say it's harder than people think to get used to the conditioning and complexities of the pros. He is just going through his rookie growing pains and just needs a little time, if he uses his time well we will have to wait and see.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by LLT View Post
    I'm getting mixed signals with Dwyer.

    I hear the talking heads say how he isnt doing very well then I read that he had an impressive goal line run....did well against Thadeus Gibson (after whiffing on the first try)...and he is making no excuses.

    I am wondering if the FO is selectively giving reporters information so as to light a fire under Dwyers rookie ass.
    Tomlin is free to use whatever method of manipulation he can on these guys to get the most out of them, and he frequently does (such as putting Big Snack on the PUP list last year). It's only freakin' day 10 of camp. Let's see how he does in the pre-season games. My guess is that he will be the Steelers' leading rusher (if he's healthy) in the preseason. I know that doesn't mean a lot, but that'll show what he's got to offer, and that'll be enough to get him on the team.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    There arent a lot of teams that carry 4 runningbacks
    The Steelers will keep 3 dressed and 1 at their fingertips for the times that one of the other backs is banged up. Whether they keep 4 and only dress 3 or keep 3 and stick one on the PS, that last spot is what we're talking about. That's the one that's up for grabs. I think the first 3 backs are set as Mendy, Moore and Redman, unless Dwyer blows up in the preseason games and either Redman or Moore stinks it up. Point is, you can't stick him on IR unless you're comfortable that you're not gonna touch him all year. I don't think we can do that. Mendy missed the whole year two years ago, Moore isn't getting any younger, and I think it's a guarantee that we'll need a 4th back this year. Who do you want that 4th back to be when we need him, Dwyer or Vincent? Are we ready to write Dwyer off at this point? Is Vincent clearly better? No way. Tomlin's playing head games with Dwyer to light a fire under his ass. Let's see if it works.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Actually, Mike T. said he liked the way Dwyer was hitting the holes.

    at about the 39 second mark..
    http://www.steelers.com/video-and-au...5-dc89d8065d77

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    I'm sorry but I'm still 50/50 on Dwyer.
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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by vrabinec View Post
    Who do you want that 4th back to be when we need him, Dwyer or Vincent? Are we ready to write Dwyer off at this point? Is Vincent clearly better? No way. Tomlin's playing head games with Dwyer to light a fire under his ass. Let's see if it works.
    I don't think Vincent ever has been, or ever will be ready for the NFL... on a Steelers roster awyway.

    He's been barely hanging on as PS material for the past 4 years. Meaning no one else sees much there either.

    Right now I'd say it's between Redman and Dwyer, with a possibility of the FB/RB from philly (Wright).

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    I don't think Vincent ever has been, or ever will be ready for the NFL... on a Steelers roster awyway.

    He's been barely hanging on as PS material for the past 4 years. Meaning no one else sees much there either.

    Right now I'd say it's between Redman and Dwyer, with a possibility of the FB/RB from philly (Wright).

    There is a small possibility that we let Moore go (Mendy was doing most of the third down back responsibilities by the end of the year) and we keep both Redman and Dwyer...or Redman and Summers, with Dwyer going to the PS. (could all the negativity about Dwyer be misinformation so as to keep him from being snatched off the PS?) I think that Wright is a darkhorse to make the team.

    I think we keep Moore...but he has lost some value due to Mendy's versatility. If Redman/Dwyer/Summers show good hands out of the backfield then there is a possibility that we go with youth.
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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by LLT View Post
    There is a small possibility that we let Moore go...
    ... and the Steelers give me a call to be the 4th QB.

    put me in coach

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    ... and the Steelers give me a call to be the 4th QB.

    put me in coach
    Hmmmmm

    Have you ever...or do you ever intend to share a bathroom stall with a college soriety chick?
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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Buy me shots, bitches - I could be a QB!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer View Post
    Buy me shots, bitches - I could be a QB!


    Ben has a lot to learn about bars - there are plenty of chicks around that want to buy drinks for YOU.
    You have been watching OchoCinco on VH1...havn't you?
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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    People watch VH1 ?

    Next you'll be telling me MTV still plays music.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer View Post
    People watch VH1 ?

    Next you'll be telling me MTV still plays music.
    MTV once played music?


    No, Like I said...its unlikely we let Moore go, but his value as a third down back did diminish due to Mendy's ability. I think that Redman has a very good chance of making the team. Remember also that not only Dwyer... but Summers is also still eligible for the PS. So there are alot of possibilities.
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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by LLT View Post
    There is a small possibility that we let Moore go (Mendy was doing most of the third down back responsibilities by the end of the year) and we keep both Redman and Dwyer...or Redman and Summers, with Dwyer going to the PS. (could all the negativity about Dwyer be misinformation so as to keep him from being snatched off the PS?) I think that Wright is a darkhorse to make the team.

    I think we keep Moore...but he has lost some value due to Mendy's versatility. If Redman/Dwyer/Summers show good hands out of the backfield then there is a possibility that we go with youth.
    While you make a good point about Moore being a possibility to be cut, I will agree with your summation. Until someone proves they have the "hands" Moore does, he's gonna stick. And It can't be Mendy, imo because the guy is gonna need a blow sometime too. He can be out there every down. Even if he may be our best option at this point.

    And Summers... I haven't seen, or heard anything to keep him in the discussion at this point. Other than the very cool nickname. Talk about over-hyped. He hasn't proved anything yet. And the times he has been in there, he's looked less than impressive... but that's just me I guess.

    I think even though Dwyer has been struggling, he's still ahead of Summers in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelMember View Post
    While you make a good point about Moore being a possibility to be cut, I will agree with your summation. Until someone proves they have the "hands" Moore does, he's gonna stick. And It can't be Mendy, imo because the guy is gonna need a blow sometime too. He can be out there every down. Even if he may be our best option at this point.

    And Summers... I haven't seen, or heard anything to keep him in the discussion at this point. Other than the very cool nickname. Talk about over-hyped. He hasn't proved anything yet. And the times he has been in there, he's looked less than impressive... but that's just me I guess.

    I think even though Dwyer has been struggling, he's still ahead of Summers in my book.
    Anyway we can just make Legursky the short yardage back/fullback.
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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by LLT View Post
    Anyway we can just make Legursky the short yardage back/fullback.
    That could certainly alter some gameplans.

    We know he can block, but I'd hope he dosen't run with the ball like Hampton. You'd never think a guy that big could go down so easily... He was no Fridge.


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    Next you'll be telling me MTV still plays music.
    And if you believe that, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.

    Quote Originally Posted by LLT View Post
    I think that Redman has a very good chance of making the team.
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