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    Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    all reports are in addition to being injured, he is really blowing goats when he gets on the field.

    when your competition is summers, redman, and the eagles dud, you really wanna show more to earn a roster spot. this quote from the article makes me think he may come around, but makes me wonder if he has what it takes to work on a pro level in the first place.

    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_694056.html

    During voluntary workouts, Dwyer, who starred at Georgia Tech, made several impressive runs and looked like a potential backup to starter Rashard Mendenhall.
    Once training camp began, Dwyer looked like a different player -- out of sorts, and perhaps, even a little out of shape.
    Dwyer said he arrived to camp in good shape, although hamstring injuries, especially with a rookie, can indicate a lack of conditioning.
    "I felt like I did enough, but being hurt is a setback for anybody,'' Dwyer said. "I'm just trying to get back in shape. This is a learning experience for me how to take care of my body better, to realize what it takes to become a professional.
    "Everybody goes through trials and tribulations in their lives. This will make me stronger. It's not about getting through each day. It's about doing your best each day and figure out what you did wrong and improving the next day.''

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by tony hipchest View Post
    all reports are in addition to being injured, he is really blowing goats when he gets on the field.

    when your competition is summers, redman, and the eagles dud, you really wanna show more to earn a roster spot. this quote from the article makes me think he may come around, but makes me wonder if he has what it takes to work on a pro level in the first place.

    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_694056.html

    He has the right attitude about it all and I'm confident he will begin to turn it around.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    I think he will be fine just needs more playing time and learn the system. If I remember right Mendenhall struggled some as well.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    He is a rookie and most rookies will struggle in training camp. Given time he should improve.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    I hope he gets some sort of injury late in preseason so he can be stashed on IR for a season. I think the talent is there, he's just not quite ready for the league.

    Redman is the guy by all accounts who's earned the job. It's going to be hard to keep him off the final 53 this year.
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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by zulater View Post
    I hope he gets some sort of injury late in preseason so he can be stashed on IR for a season. I think the talent is there, he's just not quite ready for the league.

    Redman is the guy by all accounts who's earned the job. It's going to be hard to keep him off the final 53 this year.
    Screw that. Stick him on the roster and let him work his way into the groove. You put him on IR and you can't touch him all year. Moore's getting older and who knows how durable Mendy will be over a 16 game season. Who are you gonna carry as the 4th back if it's not him? Vincent? Vincent's a decent enough player, but I'd rather have Dwyer as an option come mid-season.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by vrabinec View Post
    Screw that. Stick him on the roster and let him work his way into the groove. You put him on IR and you can't touch him all year. Moore's getting older and who knows how durable Mendy will be over a 16 game season. Who are you gonna carry as the 4th back if it's not him? Vincent? Vincent's a decent enough player, but I'd rather have Dwyer as an option come mid-season.
    There arent a lot of teams that carry 4 runningbacks

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    There arent a lot of teams that carry 4 runningbacks
    The Steelers will keep 3 dressed and 1 at their fingertips for the times that one of the other backs is banged up. Whether they keep 4 and only dress 3 or keep 3 and stick one on the PS, that last spot is what we're talking about. That's the one that's up for grabs. I think the first 3 backs are set as Mendy, Moore and Redman, unless Dwyer blows up in the preseason games and either Redman or Moore stinks it up. Point is, you can't stick him on IR unless you're comfortable that you're not gonna touch him all year. I don't think we can do that. Mendy missed the whole year two years ago, Moore isn't getting any younger, and I think it's a guarantee that we'll need a 4th back this year. Who do you want that 4th back to be when we need him, Dwyer or Vincent? Are we ready to write Dwyer off at this point? Is Vincent clearly better? No way. Tomlin's playing head games with Dwyer to light a fire under his ass. Let's see if it works.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by vrabinec View Post
    Who do you want that 4th back to be when we need him, Dwyer or Vincent? Are we ready to write Dwyer off at this point? Is Vincent clearly better? No way. Tomlin's playing head games with Dwyer to light a fire under his ass. Let's see if it works.
    I don't think Vincent ever has been, or ever will be ready for the NFL... on a Steelers roster awyway.

    He's been barely hanging on as PS material for the past 4 years. Meaning no one else sees much there either.

    Right now I'd say it's between Redman and Dwyer, with a possibility of the FB/RB from philly (Wright).

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Hey not great players in the league came out and shined their rookie season. I think over time he will learn the system and begin to turn some heads, we all know his talent is NFL worthy and once he get's his TC feet Im sure he will be impressing.
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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    You can't make the team in the tub.

    Better show up quick.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    I'm getting mixed signals with Dwyer.

    I hear the talking heads say how he isnt doing very well then I read that he had an impressive goal line run....did well against Thadeus Gibson (after whiffing on the first try)...and he is making no excuses.

    I am wondering if the FO is selectively giving reporters information so as to light a fire under Dwyers rookie ass.
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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by LLT View Post
    I'm getting mixed signals with Dwyer.

    I hear the talking heads say how he isnt doing very well then I read that he had an impressive goal line run....did well against Thadeus Gibson (after whiffing on the first try)...and he is making no excuses.

    I am wondering if the FO is selectively giving reporters information so as to light a fire under Dwyers rookie ass.
    I liked the kid in college, but you can't be 100% on how a player might transition to the NFL. It would be a shame, imo, to somehow prove those other 31 teams right about why he was still there in those later rounds. He seemed to really come in with a chip on his shoulder to prove the doubters wrong. Now, if what your saying about the FO has any merit, it wouldn't be the fire under his ass that would worry me... It's the one in his chest (heart). I know it's there, but he's just got to start making the most of this opportunity. And if he came into it out of shape to begin with... that's not a good 1st impression. I hope he will turn it around, or UP... whichever the case may be, but sitting on the sideline certainly won't help.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by LLT View Post
    I'm getting mixed signals with Dwyer.

    I hear the talking heads say how he isnt doing very well then I read that he had an impressive goal line run....did well against Thadeus Gibson (after whiffing on the first try)...and he is making no excuses.

    I am wondering if the FO is selectively giving reporters information so as to light a fire under Dwyers rookie ass.
    Tomlin is free to use whatever method of manipulation he can on these guys to get the most out of them, and he frequently does (such as putting Big Snack on the PUP list last year). It's only freakin' day 10 of camp. Let's see how he does in the pre-season games. My guess is that he will be the Steelers' leading rusher (if he's healthy) in the preseason. I know that doesn't mean a lot, but that'll show what he's got to offer, and that'll be enough to get him on the team.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by LLT View Post
    I'm getting mixed signals with Dwyer.

    I hear the talking heads say how he isnt doing very well then I read that he had an impressive goal line run....did well against Thadeus Gibson (after whiffing on the first try)...and he is making no excuses.

    I am wondering if the FO is selectively giving reporters information so as to light a fire under Dwyers rookie ass.
    IMO, there all probably true. He has strong points, he has week points. He is a rookie in his first camp. He is ADD, which means that if he is like most others, he is going to struggle with learning the playbook and incorporating new wrinkles at times (even on meds). However, how often have we seen rookies that fail to impress, that actually turn out pretty well thereafter. Either he has the basic athletic ability, and he gets developed, or he doesn't, and is dropped. Either way, I am ok with it.


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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    I have mixed feelings, but I think he'll get it together. Wasn't too long ago some said Mendy was a bust.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Still have hopes for him. He can turn it around.
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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    I think he just needs time to adjust to the pro level. I'd say it's harder than people think to get used to the conditioning and complexities of the pros. He is just going through his rookie growing pains and just needs a little time, if he uses his time well we will have to wait and see.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Actually, Mike T. said he liked the way Dwyer was hitting the holes.

    at about the 39 second mark..
    http://www.steelers.com/video-and-au...5-dc89d8065d77

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    I'm sorry but I'm still 50/50 on Dwyer.
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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Buy me shots, bitches - I could be a QB!


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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer View Post
    Buy me shots, bitches - I could be a QB!


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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    People watch VH1 ?

    Next you'll be telling me MTV still plays music.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer View Post
    People watch VH1 ?

    Next you'll be telling me MTV still plays music.
    MTV once played music?


    No, Like I said...its unlikely we let Moore go, but his value as a third down back did diminish due to Mendy's ability. I think that Redman has a very good chance of making the team. Remember also that not only Dwyer... but Summers is also still eligible for the PS. So there are alot of possibilities.
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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer View Post
    Next you'll be telling me MTV still plays music.
    And if you believe that, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.

    Quote Originally Posted by LLT View Post
    I think that Redman has a very good chance of making the team.
    On pure "suddenness and glide" alone!

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Well, fresh reports out of camp say he's gonna get a bunch of carries this week against the Lions. Sounds like whatever was wrong has healed and he's ready to rock. Let's see what he's got. I think he's gonna surprise the hell out of people. I don't know if he'll end up on our roster, but I'm willing to bet he ends up on an NFL roster somewhere this year. Unfortunately, he has a long way to go as far as picking up the blitz and that sort of mundane task, but he can run with it (if our line gets any kind of a hole)

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    This Dwyer guy would have to walk on water and turn loaves into fishes to convince me that he deserves a spot before Redman.

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    panic time is over... perhaps he is HOF bound once again-

    Dwyer gets physical with block on Fox



    LATROBE -- If there was one play that brought a smile to coach Mike Tomlin’s face on Tuesday, it was the one made by Jonathan Dwyer.
    A rookie running back who gained over 1,395 yards in each of the past two seasons at Georgia Tech, Dwyer didn’t do anything special the few times he had the football in his hands.
    But in a period of the afternoon practice when the Steelers worked on their hurry-up offense, Dwyer made a superb block on blitzing linebacker Keyaron Fox.
    “He still has a ways to grow,” Tomlin said. “As you know, he’s missed some time (at training camp). But one element that you can’t deny is that he was consistently physical today. And if we start anywhere, that’s a great basis to begin.”

    ...
    “That was definitely nice to see,” running backs coach Kirby Wilson said of Dwyer’s blitz pick-up block on Fox. “Those are the kinds of things we’re looking for from him. It’s early in the evaluation process. But we like what we see.
    http://www.timesonline.com/sports/sp...medium=twitter

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    Re: Steelers rookie rusher Dwyer struggling to make transition

    Quote Originally Posted by tony hipchest View Post
    panic time is over... perhaps he is HOF bound once again-

    Dwyer gets physical with block on Fox

    http://www.timesonline.com/sports/sp...medium=twitter
    LOL how many other of our picks were HOF bound before ever putting on pads... only to be called a bust without ever playing in a game? Seems like every year there is one or two.


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