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    Same excuses to protect Tomlin can be used for Haley.
    Hater = Realist

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    But Tomlin doesn't get excused.

    Steelers win with a big game on offense? Haley gets praised.

    Steelers lose and Haley's offense does it's usual shit show? Ben and Tomlin get bashed.

    Been this way for four years. Haley gets the same free pass from the same idiots who want Bob Nutting to protect his fortune.

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    Re: Fire Haley!

    Lol...what Coach doesn’t yell? Would be great to see a coach just stand there with no emotion...that’s a winner...right.........

    Record is 7-2; Leading Rusher in NFL and Leading Receiver in NFL and there’s a full fledged witch hunt out for Haley?

    Sure it hasn’t been high powered pretty, but come on...lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    What I think is really interesting about that play is that AB alligator armed it. Now that was to avoid getting absolutely obliterated by the safety.
    Possibly. And, if so, I’d rather have him going forward (no concussion) that make that ONE reception.

    My take is that AB was running with his head turned for 30 yards. He’s good, but even AB can lose track of his position while running like that for so long. Really. Look at the end-zone view, and you’ll see AB veer a tad too far towards the sideline... and then make a tremendous effort to still catch a ball that is slightly out of his reach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Lol...what Coach doesn’t yell? Would be great to see a coach just stand there with no emotion...that’s a winner...right.........

    Record is 7-2; Leading Rusher in NFL and Leading Receiver in NFL and there’s a full fledged witch hunt out for Haley?

    Sure it hasn’t been high powered pretty, but come on...lol.
    Stats without context are for losers and fantasy geeks. The Steelers are 18th in the NFL in rushing, and Bell appears to be getting slower because they won't try and preserve his legs. If Arians was OC people would bitch.

    Don't use record to absolve Yinzer Haley. Arians/Ben/Tomlin didn't get that leeway and all they did was win.

    High powered pretty? The offense has been shit for four years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geno71 View Post
    You mean constantly repeating how bad Haley's offense is because it sucks ass? Yes I do.

    Unfortunately for all of us Art II won't fire him and Mike Tomlin can't.

    So we all suffer.



    All I said in 2011 if Arians were to get fired? Then LeBeau should be fired also. That it was wrong to blame Ben/Arians for LeBeau's 4th quarter defense.

    I also said that Haley was LeBeau's WORST NIGHTMARE, because with a Yinzer now as OC? They will finally start blaming LEBEAU, for his 4th quarter garbage.

    And that's exactly what happened.

    LeBeau's overrated legacy is what started this whole sad sorry situation.
    The reason Lebeau left was that our defense was not the same.

    2014 was probably our worst defense since 1988 and 2013 is not far behind.

    2011 would have been too early to fired LeBeau even after the game against Tebow since before 2011 the steelers had been to the super bowl 3 times in 6 years and the season before in 2004, the steelers had finished 15-1.

    Roethlisberger and the defense were the big reason why ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geno71 View Post
    Stats without context are for losers and fantasy geeks. The Steelers are 18th in the NFL in rushing, and Bell appears to be getting slower because they won't try and preserve his legs. If Arians was OC people would bitch.

    Don't use record to absolve Yinzer Haley. Arians/Ben/Tomlin didn't get that leeway and all they did was win.

    High powered pretty? The offense has been shit for four years.
    The steelers were in the bottom 3 after 3 week in rushing yards....

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    The reason Lebeau left was that our defense was not the same.


    In 2009 and 2011 the defense couldn't force turnovers.

    From 2007 week 5 of Haley they blew the 2nd most 4th quarter leads in football.

    That doesn't even include the 4th quarter leads they blew in 2004-2006.

    LeBeau the COACH got a free pass for years, because of how great LeBeau the PERSON is.

    And that's why he was never blamed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geno71 View Post
    In 2009 and 2011 the defense couldn't force turnovers.

    From 2007 week 5 of Haley they blew the 2nd most 4th quarter leads in football.

    That doesn't even include the 4th quarter leads they blew in 2004-2006.

    LeBeau the COACH got a free pass for years, because of how great LeBeau the PERSON is.

    And that's why he was never blamed. [/COLOR]
    Yes, but 2004,2005,2008 and 2010 also counts......This is why he had a free pass....

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    In 2005 they blew three 4th quarter leads in six games. Ben saved him twice. If he only did it once? No playoffs.

    2008 they blew 4th quarter leads all year. Again Ben saved him with 4th quarter drives.

    They always had the same problems on 4th quarter defense from the moment he came back.

    He only got blamed, when a LOCAL GUY started running the offense.

    As predicted correctly, by ME!

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    The steelers only lost once with LeBeau when the steelers had the lead by at least 11 points(2009 vs Bengals), so it's not like the steelers were losing games with a huge lead ....

    And LOL for 2008!!!!

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    No doubt the game against the giants in 2008 that the bad snap of our long snapper (James Harrison !!!) who tie the game 14-14 count for a blew lead !!!!

    Or the bad interception at a terrible moment of Roethlisberger in the same year against the colts....

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    The steelers only lost once with LeBeau when the steelers had the lead by at least 11 points(2009 vs Bengals), so it's not like the steelers were losing games with a huge lead ....


    They couldn't build huge leads in 2009 because our great defense would go back on the field AFTER we scored and give the leads right back.

    The term on the web is "Give back points".

    And LOL for 2008!!!!


    I agree it's funny how LeBeau gets credit because the offense would save his 4th quarter shit.

    I think Fitz is still running.



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    Re: Fire Haley!

    Quote Originally Posted by Geno71 View Post
    They couldn't build huge leads in 2009 because our great defense would go back on the field AFTER we scored and give the leads right back.

    The term on the web is "Give back points".



    [/COLOR]I agree it's funny how LeBeau gets credit because the offense would save his 4th quarter shit.

    I think Fitz is still running.


    Polamalu(vs Ravens) is still running too!!!!

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    Or the bad interception at a terrible moment of Roethlisberger in the same year against the colts....


    If Ike could catch Reggie Wayne doesn't score. Right through his hands, and right to Wayne, 14 point swing.

    Troy Polamalu also dropped a pix six later on.

    Then, after Ben's 2nd pick the defense still had to make 1 play to win, and couldn't.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Geno71 View Post

    Then, after Ben's 2nd pick the defense still had to make 1 play to win, and couldn't.


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    To win...A FG would tie the game and they were already in FG territory after the interception.

    2 interception cost 14 points in this game, otherwise the steelers had dominated this game.

    If Ike could catch Reggie Wayne doesn't score. Right through his hands, and right to Wayne, 14 point swing.


    Troy Polamalu also dropped a pix six later on.
    so this is the fault of Lebeau?

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    To win...A FG would tie the game and they were already in FG territory after the interception.


    So was Vanderject in 2005.

    How'd that turn out?

    Bottom line if the secondary could catch the football that game was a rout.

    so this is the fault of Lebeau?


    Ben and Arians were at fault. As usual.

    Then Todd Haley was hired and LeBeau's free pass ran out.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Geno71 View Post
    So was Vanderject in 2005.

    How'd that turn out?

    Bottom line if the secondary could catch the football that game was a rout.


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    Vinnateri is much better in the clutch that Vanderchoke!

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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Vinnateri is much better in the clutch that Vanderchoke!
    Vinatieri had the chance to clinch the 2002 AFC title game kicking in the same stadium, in the same end of the field.

    He missed.

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    Re: Fire Haley!

    Do you really want to see all the clutch kick that he has made in his career?

    Rarely he has missed a clutch kick in his career, the only one I remember is the one against the chargers in 2007 in the regular season(the game that Peyton Manning had 6 interception!!!), but for the rest he is automatic in the clutch and Vanderchoke is horrible in the clutch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Do you really want to see all the clutch kick that he has made in his career?

    Rarely he has missed a clutch kick in his career, the only one I remember is the one against the chargers in 2007 in the regular season(the game that Peyton Manning had 6 interception!!!), but for the rest he is automatic in the clutch and Vanderchoke is horrible in the clutch.
    That's nice.

    But in 2002 in Heinz Field, a notorious hell for kickers, he missed a clutch kick.

    So it wasn't automatic.

    Which was the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geno71 View Post
    That's nice.

    But in 2002 in Heinz Field, a notorious hell for kickers, he missed a clutch kick.

    So it wasn't automatic.

    Which was the point.
    It would have been a 40-yard FG (or under) for him, which would have been automatic for him and if he would have make, you would have said it was because our fourth quarter defense is terrible, even if it would not have been their fault in reality in this game.

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    Facts without context.

    The rushing game is 18th.

    If Arians' rushing attack is 18th people bitch.

    8th in carries, but 18th in yards, and a woeful 26th, in yards per carry.

    And you're BRAGGING.

    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geno71 View Post
    Facts without context.

    The rushing game is 18th.

    If Arians' rushing attack is 18th people bitch.

    8th in carries, but 18th in yards, and a woeful 26th, in yards per carry.

    And you're BRAGGING.

    LOL
    The steelers running game will be better if they use 2 TE more often...

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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    The steelers running game will be better if they use 2 TE more often...
    No, the Steelers running game will be better if A) They get Conner more involved to spare Bell's legs, and B) Stop from having every run go up the middle.

    There is no threat of running wide. They rarely do it. That's why it lacks consistency. For any big run you can pull up you get a ton of 0-2 yard carries. But the one long run inflates their average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geno71 View Post
    No, the Steelers running game will be better if A) They get Conner more involved to spare Bell's legs, and B) Stop from having every run go up the middle.

    There is no threat of running wide. They rarely do it. That's why it lacks consistency. For any big run you can pull up you get a ton of 0-2 yard carries. But the one long run inflates their average.
    No fact are fact...Bell is much better with 2 TE,same thing for the passing game.....

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    You're right.

    18th in yards.

    26th in yards per carry.

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    Re: Fire Haley!

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Polamalu(vs Ravens) is still running too!!!!
    So True!! We know that Harrison stopped for a breather.

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    Re: Fire Haley!

    Christ, this nutjob is back? Not for long...

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    Re: Fire Haley!

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Christ, this nutjob is back? Not for long...
    Wow! He didn't even last a week, this time around.

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    Re: Fire Haley!

    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Christ, this nutjob is back? Not for long...



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