Ironic...

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Exactly, Mel! If conservatives were getting most but not all of what they wanted through compromise, that would be fine. But that's not the case. It's the liberals who are getting most of what they want. Through Republican compromise, THEY are the ones getting the 75 percent instead of 100 percent. It's time for Republicans to stop compromising and start fighting for what they supposedly believe in.

Would you be able to cite some examples here?

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Spending increased by 1/3rd during Clinton's tenure.

Sounds like it got spent to me.

Bill Clinton's terms benefitted from the computer technology boom which brought in a ton of surplus cash not only to the private sector but also to the federal government. Many of his financial successes are directly related.

[GoSlash27]

Would you be able to cite some examples here?

Obamacare, Dodd-Frank, TARP, ARRA... how many examples do you need?

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Obamacare, Dodd-Frank, TARP, ARRA... how many examples do you need?

Which Republicans sponsored or co-sponsored those bills?

[GoSlash27]

Which Republicans sponsored or co-sponsored those bills?

Why are you now asking for "sponsors"? Every single one of those bills was passed with Republican votes and would've failed without them. You know... the ones who are all about "compromise"?

[Wallace108]

Would you be able to cite some examples here?

In addition to what Slash listed ... off the top of my head ... repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell and the fiscal cliff legislation.

How many examples can you cite where conservative principles, through compromise, have been enacted into law during the past 5 years?

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In addition to what Slash listed ... off the top of my head ... repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell and the fiscal cliff legislation.

How many examples can you cite where conservative principles, through compromise, have been enacted into law during the past 5 years?

Let me begin by saying that as far as whatever Slash has said here, I really haven't been reading much of his stuff lately. I'm just being honest about that. Not trying to avoid points he has or hasn't made or take shots at anyone or anything, it just is what it is. But I'll be glad to address what you've posted. I hardly think you can call the Don't Ask Don't Tell repeal a "compromise" between Republicans and Democrats. If I recall correctly only six Republicans voted for the repeal, and John McCain filibustered. While you can wag your finger at the Republicans who voted for the repeal there aren't many pieces of legislature that see complete solidarity from either party. So I really struggle to see how you cite that as an example of attempted compromise. As far as the legislation surrounding the fiscal cliff situation, I'll admit I'm not very knowledgeable about the specifics of what took place there. I know tax increases basically happened through revoking tax cut programs and that was passed by the majority of congress, but that's about it. So, just from what you've given me off the top of your head, I really don't think you've scored many points in suggesting compromise can't work. That said, I can't answer your question with any answers off the cuff of my own worth a damn. But what I will say is I think the compromise angle is something that is relatively new. In relation to how we're discussing it, at least. And when I talk about compromise, I'm talking about when bills are being written. Not once they hit the floor. Obviously, once they hit the floor compromising doesn't do shit and isn't even possible. But I really expect to see more bills sponsored and written by members of both parties in the near future. That's the kind of compromise I can fully get behind. As I keep saying, if it doesn't work, oh well. Vote it down. But why not try it?