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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    Like Hell it was. News flash: most Republicans don't give a crap about getting the budget in order. Fact of life. It's just like the Democrats complaining about undeclared wars and habeas corpus and Gitmo... except when a Democrat is in office; then they've got nuthin' to say.

    Gather around and I'll tell you all a widely-known secret:
    All you folks who are bent out of shape over Romney not winning aren't actually conservatives. You're just partisan Republicans who are mad 'cuz your corrupt liberal hood ornament didn't get in instead of their corrupt liberal hood ornament. Ask your P.C. buddy all about it. He'll tell you all about how there's no good guys and you just have to play the game. I'll be happy to furnish quotes if you'd like.

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    And no. I had absolutely no idea that that particular remark would make people all mad-faced. I wasn't even thinking about Romney when I posted it. I was thinking about Boehner.
    Why do you think you're the only one who can define what conservatism means?

    Who are you to proclaim my budgetary views?

    Who are you to call me politically correct?

    Who made you the arbiter of what's politically corrupt?

    You just think you have all the answers. No one else matters. Hell you don't even give us the right to have opinions, you assign them to us as you see fit.

    Really i don't know how the mods give you so much leeway?
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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by zulater View Post
    Why do you think you're the only one who can define what conservatism means?

    Who are you to proclaim my budgetary views?

    Who are you to call me politically correct?

    Who made you the arbiter of what's politically corrupt?

    You just think you have all the answers. No one else matters. Hell you don't even give us the right to have opinions, you assign them to us as you see fit.

    Really i don't know how the mods give you so much leeway?
    Maybe I should just cuss at you instead? Or derail every thread on the forum every time I get the chance to remind you that I don't like you You seem to understand the mods "giving leeway" for that sort of behavior just fine...

    Liberalism is the idea that the government should be given the money and authority to fix everything, and it's okay that they're corrupt and have a failing track record. You know... the kind of things you say.
    Conservatism is the idea that people are a better solution than the government. Like the kind of things *I* say.
    It's pretty simple...

    Do you need quotes of the things you've said yourself to remind you?
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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    Maybe I should just cuss at you instead? You seem to understand the mods "giving leeway" for that just fine...

    Liberalism is the idea that the government should be given the money and authority to fix everything, and it's okay that they're corrupt and have a failing track record. You know... the kind of things you say.
    Conservatism is the idea that people are a better solution than the government. Like the kind of things *I* say.
    It's pretty simple...
    I cussed you because of your condesending know it all attitude. I apoligize. I wont let you get that reaction out of me again.

    I agree that less government is desirable. I believe in capitalism and the private sector.

    But there are things you need government for. Infrastructure, military, come to mind.

    There's an equation of how much is needed that has to be defined.
    "A man's got to know his limitations."

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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    The way this is going, I don't know how much "leeway" is going to be left to hand out
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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by zulater View Post
    I cuss you becasuse of your condesending attitude.

    I agree that less government is desirable. I believe in capitalism and the private sector.

    But there are things you need government for. Infrastructure, military, come to mind.

    There's an equation of how much is needed that has to be defined.
    Oh, yeah. *that* makes your blatant violations of the terms of service okay. "But he's *condescending*"



    Look closely. How many of the above have you openly stated on this forum?
    /liberal
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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Ya know, it may be my cognitive dissonance kicking in, but I could have sworn I asked you guys to put each other on ignore?








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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    Oh, yeah. *that* makes your blatant violations of the terms of service okay. "But he's *condescending*"



    Look closely. How many of the above have you openly stated on this forum?
    /liberal
    Really?

    Guy you're not going to win the general election. You wont win control of either house. They system might burp and groan, but it wont fail completely. Things are going to get hard in the near future. Virtually bleak. But we'll come through it as a nation, and those that can build a consensus with the moderate middle will be the ones that find the right fix.

    I don't know who it will be, but I know who it wont be. And it wont be someone who doesn't recognize the existing system and can't work within it's imperfect framework.

    So keep deluding yourself thinking you're going to change things 360 degrees in 3 years, or even 30 years. Because it's not going to happen. though you'll fool some poor people into thinking it will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-Terminator View Post
    Ya know, it may be my cognitive dissonance kicking in, but I could have sworn I asked you guys to put each other on ignore?
    Were discussing respectfully.
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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by zulater View Post
    Were discussing respectfully.
    OK, so long as you understand the consequences of going off the rails again.








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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Slash on that chart you posted I really haven't said many of those things, if any? . But really how little government are you talking? I mean reading that do you even endorse a nation? Maybe we can just be neighbors who do commerce with each other with no one in charge of anything?
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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Really when you get right down to it by slash's standards Ronald Reagan was a liberal. And judging by his posting name he probably also thought Kordell Stewart was a legitimate NFL qb. So I guess his political and football acuman are on par with each other. So really there's no reason to be bothered when he labels me a liberal. Just consider the source.
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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by zulater View Post
    Slash on that chart you posted I really haven't said many of those things, if any? . But really how little government are you talking? I mean reading that do you even endorse a nation? Maybe we can just be neighbors who do commerce with each other with no one in charge of anything?
    Uhh... I think you're confusing me with an anarchist. Big government types have a tendency to do that. See above.
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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    those that can build a consensus with the moderate middle will be the ones that find the right fix.
    ^ your words, not mine.

    The people you're so keen to "build a consensus with" are driving the country over a cliff at 80 miles an hour. You think the "right fix" is to slow down to 40? I don't.
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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    I started this thread so certain people on this forum (you know who you are) will have a place to vent their frustration without selfishly derailing every other thread on the forum.
    It's over. He lost. The reason he lost is because nobody liked him. Deal with it.

    I recommend that next time you back a candidate that somebody likes, 'cuz berating people who refuse to get behind whatever self-aggrandizing jackass you dredge up ain't a winning strategy.
    /release the hounds...
    In reality, I think more people voted for Romney with the goal of getting rid of Obama. The fact that you want socialism is your own problem, no need for airing it out in public.
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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by BnG_Hevn View Post
    In reality, I think more people voted for Romney with the goal of getting rid of Obama. The fact that you want socialism is your own problem, no need for airing it out in public.
    My thoughts exactly. This thread is childish.

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    Uhh... I think you're confusing me with an anarchist. Big government types have a tendency to do that. See above.
    ....and an azalea?

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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by BnG_Hevn View Post
    In reality, I think more people voted for Romney with the goal of getting rid of Obama. The fact that you want socialism is your own problem, no need for airing it out in public.
    Socialism? Lol, Im not sure where you got that from? His statement is pretty simple, republicans cant just run someone nobody likes hoping people will just vote for him because they don't like the other guy, its a losing strategy! If we keep electing the same type of candidates we are going to keep getting the same results, democrats and republicans have been driving us down this road for decades, people who think it started with Obama are ridiculous.

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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by steeldawg View Post
    Socialism? Lol, Im not sure where you got that from? His statement is pretty simple, republicans cant just run someone nobody likes hoping people will just vote for him because they don't like the other guy, its a losing strategy! If we keep electing the same type of candidates we are going to keep getting the same results, democrats and republicans have been driving us down this road for decades, people who think it started with Obama are ridiculous.
    Objectively, that should be so self- evident that it shouldn't even need to be said. But partisans are funny people. They take any criticism of their party and leaders as a personal insult, and will go to great lengths to avoid discussing such things. Even if it means starting flame- wars.
    They don't like it when their echo chamber gets disturbed, 'cuz that forces them to think about what "conservatism" really means. Hatin' on the other side is a *lot* easier...
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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    Objectively, that should be so self- evident that it shouldn't even need to be said. But partisans are funny people. They take any criticism of their party and leaders as a personal insult, and will go to great lengths to avoid discussing such things. Even if it means starting flame- wars.
    They don't like it when their echo chamber gets disturbed, 'cuz that forces them to think about what "conservatism" really means. Hatin' on the other side is a *lot* easier...
    I think people just don't understand the concept of "conservatism" They equate republican and conservative but its not always the case.

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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by steeldawg View Post
    I think people just don't understand the concept of "conservatism" They equate republican and conservative but its not always the case.
    In current times, I would say rarely is that the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Steeler View Post
    In current times, I would say rarely is that the case.
    I would agree, if you look at presidents over the past couple decades just looking at their records you would be hard pressed to find a conservative and that includes Reagan.

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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by steeldawg View Post
    I think people just don't understand the concept of "conservatism" They equate republican and conservative but its not always the case.
    I'd go so far as to say not usually the case. Not even very often the case.
    Not that Republicans are the only ones who suffer from that problem. The Democrats are the same way for the most part: Motivated more by fear and hatred of Republicans and lust for power than any real ideological commitment to liberalism as an ideology. Most of them don't even know what "liberalism" means and don't particularly care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    I'd go so far as to say not usually the case. Not even very often the case.
    Not that Republicans are the only ones who suffer from that problem. The Democrats are the same way for the most part: Motivated more by fear and hatred of Republicans and lust for power than any real ideological commitment to liberalism as an ideology. Most of them don't even know what "liberalism" means and don't particularly care.
    The philosophy of liberalism is very positive, although for some reason its regarded as a negative term. I think if most people read the philosophy of liberalism they would agree with it.

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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by steeldawg View Post
    The philosophy of liberalism is very positive, although for some reason its regarded as a negative term. I think if most people read the philosophy of liberalism they would agree with it.
    The new pathos of liberalism is we'll take yours when we want and need to and you should be accepting, happy and unquestioning in how much we need and what we want it for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zulater View Post
    The new pathos of liberalism is we'll take yours when we want and need to and you should be accepting, happy and unquestioning in how much we need and what we want it for.
    No because if a persons philosophy was take whats yours it would go against the philosophy of liberalism, People also equate liberalism and socialism, which makes absolutely no sense either.

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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by steeldawg View Post
    The philosophy of liberalism is very positive, although for some reason its regarded as a negative term. I think if most people read the philosophy of liberalism they would agree with it.
    No it's not. It's chucking aside individual freedom in favor of government authority. It's not positive at all.
    It contains a lot of "feel good" ideas that do more harm than good and require taking other people's money. In that sense, it's largely the ethos of drug addicts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steeldawg View Post
    No because if a persons philosophy was take whats yours it would go against the philosophy of liberalism, People also equate liberalism and socialism, which makes absolutely no sense either.
    Statement 1 laughably false. Statement #2, American liberalism is exactly the same thing as European Socialism. The title may not be accurate, but it fits in context.
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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by steeldawg View Post
    The philosophy of liberalism is very positive, although for some reason its regarded as a negative term. I think if most people read the philosophy of liberalism they would agree with it.
    Well, the philosophy of liberalism is fine as far as what most people who claim to be liberal, think.

    I don't have a problem with helping people that need help. I don't have a problem with the rainbows and unicorns outlook on life, per se. I do have a problem with taking what I've worked hard for and giving it to people that have no desire to work or be helped to get back on their feet, and then pay it forward.

    Liberalism sounds great in theory... and I even agree with some of it. The problem with it is that it just isn't feasible to sustain on the backs of people who actually have to provide it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    No it's not. It's chucking aside individual freedom in favor of government authority. It's not positive at all.
    It contains a lot of "feel good" ideas that do more harm than good and require taking other people's money. In that sense, it's largely the ethos of drug addicts.
    Lol, I don't remember taking other peoples money as a requirement of liberalism. I do remember equality, freedom of press, freedom of religion, civil rights, those are feel good and I don't see much harm coming from that. John Locke is often credited with founding liberalism as a distinct philosophical tradition. Locke argued that each man has a natural right to life, liberty and property and according to the social contract, governments must not violate these rights.

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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by steeldawg View Post
    No because if a persons philosophy was take whats yours it would go against the philosophy of liberalism, People also equate liberalism and socialism, which makes absolutely no sense either.
    I said it was the new pathos , meaning the new pathos of those that call themelves liberals. I didn't say it was a proper representation of what the word really means or should mean in a political sense.
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    Re: Mitt Romney was an unelectable, liberal, disingenuous dirtbag and I'm glad he los

    Quote Originally Posted by steeldawg View Post
    Lol, I don't remember taking other peoples money as a requirement of liberalism. I do remember equality, freedom of press, freedom of religion, civil rights, those are feel good and I don't see much harm coming from that. John Locke is often credited with founding liberalism as a distinct philosophical tradition. Locke argued that each man has a natural right to life, liberty and property and according to the social contract, governments must not violate these rights.
    What you're talking about is "classical liberalism", which is closer to what "conservatism" is supposed to be about than modern liberalism.
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