James Harrison won't take pay cut to stay with Steelers

[Shoes]

James Harrison

is willing to work with the Steelers to lower his salary cap number, but he’s not willing to take a pay cut just to stay with the team that drafted him and developed him.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...with-steelers/

[st33lersguy]

Then it is a likely good bye to Harrison

[Shoes]

Sorry for the double post. Ike thinks he'll be back.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...eelers-pay-cut

[Psycho Ward 86]

hopefully worilds can step up from his backup role where he still played significant snaps and turn into yet another top notch linebacker in the steelers history. harrison, if you leave, thank you for your service. we greatly appreciate the things you did for us and we wont soon forget.

[zulater]

hopefully worilds can step up from his backup role where he still played significant snaps and turn into yet another top notch linebacker in the steelers history. harrison, if you leave, thank you for your service. we greatly appreciate the things you did for us and we wont soon forget.

Worildis can't play ROLB. Virtually all of his production throughout his career has been at LOLB where you're often matched up against a back or tight end as opposed to the left tackle you see when you play ROLB..

They need to draft Harrison's replacement with an early pick if they release him.

I'm still not buying that he's leaving yet though. The article linked in this thread is from Profootballtalk.com which puts the most negative spin on the story every time. From the PTribune review's piece if you read it it's obvious that no door has been closed yet on Harrison.

Rule #1 in life, don't ever take anything an agent or lawyer says literally.

[86WARD]

A lot of times people assume that a contract restructure us the same as a "pay cut." The steelers could restructure Harrison's deal where he's not losing any money and the team will benefit from it. It doesn't have to be a "pay cut." A lot of players restructure and take a "pay cut" but it's really not. Most don't actually agree to an actual pay cut. It's just monies allocated different ways. Player still gets paid the same.

[bayz101]

Steelers didn't draft Harrison, lol.

[Craic]

Why do I have a feeling this is going to end up like the Center position a few years ago.

We go from having a string of All-pro dominant centers to journeymen at best, and suffer through two seasons with that before finding a gem in the draft. Now, we go from Kevin Green to Gildon to Porter to Harrison to . . . who? No one has his dominance.

Sigh.

[ALLD]

Where is Alonzo Jackson when you need him.

[SteelerEmpire]

Then it looks like Te'o time !

[zulater]

Then it looks like Te'o time !

Different position.

[Psycho Ward 86]

The steelers could restructure Harrison's deal where he's not losing any money and the team will benefit from it.

lol

[tube517]

Where is Alonzo Jackson when you need him.

Bruce Davis

[Craic]

I'll tell you all this much - Kuhn would have taken the cut! He would have taken it and liked it, then gone out in Harrison's place and lit up the field playing OLB. It's a shame we didn't keep him. He could've been an Iron man and played FB and OLB - and even coached the positions.

Fire the coaches. What a bad decision.

[Shoes]

Worildis can't play ROLB. Virtually all of his production throughout his career has been at LOLB where you're often matched up against a back or tight end as opposed to the left tackle you see when you play ROLB..

They need to draft Harrison's replacement with an early pick if they release him.

I'm still not buying that he's leaving yet though. The article linked in this thread is from Profootballtalk.com which puts the most negative spin on the story every time. From the PTribune review's piece if you read it it's obvious that no door has been closed yet on Harrison.

Rule #1 in life, don't ever take anything an agent or lawyer says literally.

Does that include Art II?

[cold-hard-steel]

Take the cut or move on. That's how it is. Be like Franco and refuse the cut , or go to Seatle. It is about the team and where you excell in the needs that they require. Harrision has had his moments,but so did many others before him. Take the cut or hang em up big guy. Go out on a high note,or sign with Cleveland . Sup to him.

[st33lersguy]

At this stage in his career, a 35 year old injury prone player who can't really be relied upon to play 16 games anymore, he is not worth 6.5 million dollars. Move on and draft his replacement in the first 2 rounds in April

[Steeldude]

At this stage in his career, a 35 year old injury prone player who can't really be relied upon to play 16 games anymore, he is not worth 6.5 million dollars. Move on and draft his replacement in the first 2 rounds in April

Yet he is worth more than the other OLBs on the team. They will need to find his replacement. Those are big shows that need to be filled.

[86WARD]

lol

Funny cause its true. It's actually more rare that a contract restructure results in a pay cut. Most of the time its just the semantics of shifting base salary into signing-bonus money or easily achievable incentives to help a team's salary cap. These restructures generally give the players the same amount they were supposed to make in the first place. They like to say the player took a "pay cut" because his base salary might have decreased but they load it up with signing bonus and incentives.

[zulater]

Yet he is worth more than the other OLBs on the team. They will need to find his replacement. Those are big shows that need to be filled.

These people don't seem to realize the difference between playing ROLB and LOLB. They see Worldis and his 5 sacks last season and think you can just plug him in in place of Harrison and you'll see the same production.

You know and I know that's not going to happen. The Steelers don't have a player on their roster that can fill the shoes of even a diminished Harrison. The defense noticably improved after he came back into the lineup, even though I think it can be safely said he wasn't playing even close to 100%. As the season progressed so did Harrison's play as evidenced by the fact that he had 6 sacks and forced 2 fumbles in the last 7 games. Project those final 7 games over a full season and you're looking at 13 sacks and 4.5 forced fumbles.

I get that the Harrison we saw from 07-10 isn't coming back. But he's still a damn good player. And if he comes into the season healthy next season who's to say he doesn't have one monster season left in him?

Imagine that Harrison comes back and is 90-95% of his old self, but in a different uniform. How do you think all these people clamoring for cap relief ( with dollars that don't even come out of their pocket) are going to be feeling then? Say James goes to Cincy and put's up 14 sacks everyone going to be saying, glad we saved that 6 million?

I just hope the Steelers are smarter than the press and many of their fans. Because you take James Harrison out of that defense next season and you better be able to score 30 points a week offensively more often than not. Exxageration or stretch on my part? Not really when you consider that in the 3 games James Harrison missed, twice the Steelers gave up over 30 points. That only happened once more after Harrison came back into the lineup.

Just coincidental I suppose?

Not really.

[SteelerFanInStl]

I'm with you Zu. Unless if we're willing to give up the season, James needs to be back.

[cold-hard-steel]

I think if you are any kind of a Steeler fan , you know the road James traveled .We all know what he accomplished and how far he came to get to where he is today . I don't know what road you know about that goes on forever . Well we won't go there. But you have to realize that to stay in the "competing mode" you just have to go with youth. Kind of think about tomorrow today sort of thing. Just sayin.

[XxKnightxX]

James Harrison

is willing to work with the Steelers to lower his salary cap number, but he’s not willing to take a pay cut just to stay with the team that drafted him and developed him.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...with-steelers/

James Harrison was never drafted. How fucking hard is it to google someones name nowadays. Jesus Christ .

Anyway, I'm willing to move on, he can still play, but not at that price with the risk of injury and shitty leaner backups. Notice how the ball gets run more towards the right rather than the left as well when Harrisons on the field. He's a force to stil be reckoned with, but I think we need to find a replacement, and Lebeau needs to temporarily let the players just play basic defense then move on to more complex systems.


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[Psycho Ward 86]

Funny cause its true. It's actually more rare that a contract restructure results in a pay cut. Most of the time its just the semantics of shifting base salary into signing-bonus money or easily achievable incentives to help a team's salary cap. These restructures generally give the players the same amount they were supposed to make in the first place. They like to say the player took a "pay cut" because his base salary might have decreased but they load it up with signing bonus and incentives.

uh duly noted. but i was laughing at the fact that you said the steelers could restructure Harrison's deal where he's not losing any money and THE TEAM will benefit from it. Thats just....no

[steelreserve]

Harrison is the one guy with a $10M cap hit who I'd say is worth every penny. It was night and day how the defense performed with him out versus when he was in.

[Psycho Ward 86]

I think if you are any kind of a Steeler fan , you know the road James traveled .We all know what he accomplished and how far he came to get to where he is today . I don't know what road you know about that goes on forever . Well we won't go there. But you have to realize that to stay in the "competing mode" you just have to go with youth. Kind of think about tomorrow today sort of thing. Just sayin.

sounds contradictory to what you always preach about casey hampton

[zulater]

sounds contradictory to what you always preach about casey hampton

If there was a ROLB equivilent of Steve McLendon on the roster maybe he'd feel the same with Harrison?

[zulater]

Then it looks like Te'o time !

Yes it does!

[7willBheaven]

Agent Speak at its finest!

[cold-hard-steel]

sounds contradictory to what you always preach about casey hampton

Yeah i preach about casey. If the cost is right. Good back-up ta have. Least you listen or read the so called preaching you talk of. Now let others have their opinions. If this was not a forum about opinions i would keep mine to myself.