With the 17th Pick in the 2013 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select...

[polamalubeast]

Which are the players the Steelers could drafted?

[Dwinsgames]

hopefully we trade down

[polamalubeast]

hopefully we trade down

or trade up for a game changer as in 2003 with Troy Polamalu

[st33lersguy]

Hopefully Te'o will be available and we get him

[Dwinsgames]

or trade up for a game changer as in 2003 with Troy Polamalu

we have to many holes to give up draft picks IMO , we also have cap issues and could face some guys being released ( and we only have 36 I think under contract for 2013 ) we need all the picks we can get our hands on and this being a pretty deep draft in some key spots we need to address ( such as S ) why not move down , get a few extra picks ( move down a few spots a few times and then maybe clear out of the first round would be my preference ) we need 17 bodies to make the team and are over the cap at this point , cut a few guys and you need a few more .... trading down is the best answer IMO

[polamalubeast]

we have to many holes to give up draft picks IMO , we also have cap issues and could face some guys being released ( and we only have 36 I think under contract for 2013 ) we need all the picks we can get our hands on and this being a pretty deep draft in some key spots we need to address ( such as S ) why not move down , get a few extra picks ( move down a few spots a few times and then maybe clear out of the first round would be my preference ) we need 17 bodies to make the team and are over the cap at this point , cut a few guys and you need a few more .... trading down is the best answer IMO

I understand your point, but the Steelers need a game changer.....Of course, I agree that making a trade up is probably a bad idea

I think that the steelers will stay at 17

[86WARD]

Hopefully Te'o will be available and we get him

He's a fucking basket case...want no parts of him...and I'm sure a lot of teams will feel the same after the latest news.

[Dwinsgames]

He's a fucking basket case...want no parts of him...and I'm sure a lot of teams will feel the same after the latest news.

I can understand your logic , I never hold one game against a guy who has had an otherwise bright career but it does give you reason to take pause and re evaluate , then when something like this new crap hits the media giving you other points of concern about mental maturity and where he may or may not be stability wise it puts big red flag up for me ....

not saying I would be opposed to drafting him , but I do not believe I could make the financial long term investment in someone I have multiple concerns with in the first round , if the bottom falls out of his stock and he is there in round 2 I might feel differently ( months ago I was all over this kid in the first round not now ) .... he could become the next greatest thing , or he could implode to much of a gamble for me 1st round picks are to hard to come by ...

[SteelerFanInStl]

He's a fucking basket case...want no parts of him...and I'm sure a lot of teams will feel the same after the latest news.

I agree. I used to think that it would be great if he would fall to us but now I want no part of him. After watching him fail miserably against Alabama, I have serious questions about how good he'll be in the NFL.

There's no one in this draft worth trading up for IMO. I'd prefer to trade down, but staying at 17 would be good too. We will get a game-changer at 17.

[GBMelBlount]

Hopefully Te'o will be available and we get him

Sounds like we would be getting two first round players with one pick.

Te'o....Te'o...daylight come and he wanna go home...

[Aussie_steeler]

Here is my list of who will genuinely be on the board. I have not anyone listed that will need to fall to be available at #17

1. Jesse Williams NT
2. Sam Montgomery OLB
3. Xavier Rhodes CB
4. Alex Okafor OLB
5. Ezekiel Ansah OLB
6. Cordarelle Patterson WR
7. Alex Ogletree ILB
8. Eric Minter ILB
9. De'andre Hopkins WR

[Steeldude]

Who cares if he made up a g/f or didn't make one up? If he is available he is worth a solid look.

There's no one in this draft worth trading up for IMO

What about Jarvis Jones?

[Dwinsgames]

What about Jarvis Jones?

Jarvis Jones will probably be off the board in the first 3 or 4 picks , a trade up for him from 17 would cost nearly the entire draft .... won't happen

[SteelerFanInStl]

Jarvis Jones will probably be off the board in the first 3 or 4 picks , a trade up for him from 17 would cost nearly the entire draft .... won't happen

Yes, he will be long gone. In the other thread where I said the same thing, I actually listed Jones as the exception.

[86WARD]

Lets say this...Te'o performed horribly and was man-handled when facing a team as close to an NFL Franchise as possible. That's got to be taken into consideration and after that a few draftnicks had him in a free fall...

[polamalubeast]

Lets say this...Te'o performed horribly and was man-handled when facing a team as close to an NFL Franchise as possible. That's got to be taken into consideration and after that a few draftnicks had him in a free fall...

agree....Te'o was awful vs Alabama....awful

[Count Steeler]

agree....Te'o was awful vs Alabama....awful

He was distracted with the death of his ... ah... "girlfriend"?

[Steeldude]

Jarvis Jones will probably be off the board in the first 3 or 4 picks , a trade up for him from 17 would cost nearly the entire draft .... won't happen

I was just saying he would be the only player to trade up for. I realize he will be gone very early in the draft.

I wouldn't mind trading most of the entire draft, if not all, to get him. The Steelers haven't been exactly impressive with rounds 2 thru 7.

[Aussie_steeler]

2009 seasonJones attended University of Southern California for his freshman year, during which he saw action as a special teams and backup player for the USC Trojans Football team. In the first eight games, he recorded 13 tackles, including 1.5 tackles for loss. During the game against Oregon Jones suffered a neck injury. He was later diagnosed with spinal stenosis and the USC medical staff would not clear him to play for the team again.^[5]
[edit] 2010 season

When the USC medical staff would not allow Jones to practice in the spring of 2010, Jones asked for and was granted a release to transfer. His high school coach contacted Georgia, Auburn, and Florida State to discuss the possibility with the teams' coaches. After meeting with Georgia defensive coordinator Todd Grantham, Jones underwent medical testing by the Georgia staff and was cleared to play football at the University of Georgia. He would have to redshirt during the 2010 season per NCAA transfer rules.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarvis_Jones

Jarvis Jones has some serious doubts associated with his NFL life span. The spinal stenosis will be a major issue for many teams.

I am not all in for someone like Jones. If it was Javedeon Clowney next year then I would say yes

[GBMelBlount]

BPA at one of our many positions of need or trade down.

[Aussie_steeler]

I am down for identifying a 10 year cornerstone type player for the defence.

Casey Hampton was that kind of player for the majority of career.

I can see Jesse Williams being the same kind of player for the steelers.



If you can dominate the line of scrimmage you are more than a good chance of winning.

Going forward I like:

O line: Pouncey, De Castro, Adams as the nucleus
D line: Heyward and someone like Jesse Williams to be the core to dominating the line of scrimmage.

Those 5 players wont break the bank / cap near as much as the price of OLB's and WR's who are always looking for premium pay.
Blue collar positions, blue collar work ethic for a blue collar cities football team.

[polamalubeast]

BPA at one of our many positions of need or trade down.

agree for the BPA

But I do not think the trade down is a good idea

The browns have often trade down since several years(2009 with the jets(bad trade for both team)and 2011 with the falcons for Julio Jones...great trade for the falcons) and they(Browns) are still bad....Quality is more important than the quantity, but of course the quantity is also important

[Dwinsgames]

agree for the BPA

But I do not think the trade down is a good idea

The browns have often trade down since several years(2009 with the jets(bad trade for both team)and 2011 with the falcons for Julio Jones...great trade for the falcons) and they(Browns) are still bad....Quality is more important than the quantity, but of course the quantity is also important

the browns are not a bad team because of trading down ...

the browns are a bad team for abandoning their picks and trading them away for next to nothing in return ...

they are also a bad team for poor player evaluations prior to drafting them ...

another reason they are a bad team is they keep changing coaching staffs and the philosophies that go with it such as schemes ....

the Browns / Falcons trade is way to early to tell if it was " Bad" or good ..... a trade down is only as good as the players you draft with the added picks and what you do as a team afterwards like schemes etc ...

you could give the Browns the top 10 picks 3 out of 5 years and if they miss evaluate the guys they pick , then trade them for next to nothing in return and swap coaching staffs on those players 3 times in 5 years they will still suck ( just my opinion )

[Steeltreal]

Hood and Heyward were the 3rd or 4th rated DE's in their draft. If we want a 10 year guy wouldnt we want the #1 rated at their position. Cap wise Warmack to replace Colon, Keenan Allen to replace Wallace, , and then theres a TE Eifert, him and Heath would be tough to defend

[Count Steeler]

Isn't BPA a misnomer? I hardly think Ben was BPA when we picked him. He has turned out to be one of the best QBs from that draft class, but a strict adherence to BPA probably would have dictated us taking a linebacker or a safety. "BPA with need" would be more accurate, IMO.

[Dwinsgames]

BPA of a pos of need , since we need multiple pos. that should not be a tough task and still walk away with a dam fine player ( still prefer to trade down and use that same formula )

[Count Steeler]

BPA of a pos of need , since we need multiple pos. that should not be a tough task and still walk away with a dam fine player ( still prefer to trade down and use that same formula )

I like the idea of trading down this year. Especially if we can package a vet or 2.

[GBMelBlount]

Hood and Heyward were the 3rd or 4th rated DE's in their draft. If we want a 10 year guy wouldnt we want the #1 rated at their position. Cap wise Warmack to replace Colon, Keenan Allen to replace Wallace, , and then theres a TE Eifert, him and Heath would be tough to defend

Is choosing the number # 1 rated college prospect at each position a sure thing?

[Aussie_steeler]

Hood and Heyward were the 3rd or 4th rated DE's in their draft. If we want a 10 year guy wouldnt we want the #1 rated at their position. Cap wise Warmack to replace Colon, Keenan Allen to replace Wallace, , and then theres a TE Eifert, him and Heath would be tough to defend

In the 2001 the draft the DT crop panned out as follows

Round 1 pick 3 Gerard Warren Browns
Round 1 pick 6 Richard Seymour Pats
Round 1 pick 12 Damione Lewis Rams
Round 1 pick 13 Marcus Stroud Jags
Round 1 pick 19 Casey Hampton Steelers


Star Lotulaelei is a yes if he is available. However I would still take Jesse Williams over Hankins and Richardson who are rated higher.

You don't need the #1 guy on the board. You just need the #1 guy on your board for the pick your are anticipating to make.

[Steeltreal]

I was talking salary cap, Wallace , Colon , and Millers contracts compared to new rookie cap will help long term.