There could be 1,000 things related to an incident.Originally Posted by The Patriot
Find 10 that are inconsistent and present them out of context of the other 990 and it can look like compelling evidence.
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There could be 1,000 things related to an incident.
Find 10 that are inconsistent and present them out of context of the other 990 and it can look like compelling evidence.
"With love, with patience, and with Faith
....She'll make her way" ~ Natalie Merchant
Exactly.
Emilie Parker, the daughter of the smiling and laughing father in the video on Page 1 was laid to rest in Utah today. Why Utah? That's where the family is from. They've lived in Newtown for less than a year and probably aren't a well-known family in the community. Is this important? Were they a plant? Am I just adding fuel to the fire? The answer to at least one of those questions is "yes."
The important thing right now is to mourn those poor children who lost their lives.
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Does not mean that some conspiracy theories are not true. This is a great thread and some really interesting points made.
On a side note, I think there is compelling evidence that Tom Brady is gay.
Did you see the picture of him going down that water slide with his arms up like a fairy?
Just sayin...
"With love, with patience, and with Faith
....She'll make her way" ~ Natalie Merchant
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"A man's got to know his limitations."
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Unfortunately.
Maybe some mysteries are better left unsolved. That's the Patriots way.
I lost my 16 y/o son 6 months ago, so believe me when I say this...you have no idea how to act after a situation like that. You "nearly losing" your son does not qualify you to know how the fuck people act when they lose their children. Everyone is different, and laughing at a joke 24 hours after losing your child doesn't mean a fucking thing. When you lose a child, you walk around in a daze, you have no idea how to act, and you commenting on it like you know the feeling pisses me off.
2 boys died in the crash my son was in , my son was at deathdoor ... broken ribs , broken pelvic bone in 3 places , collapsed lung , bruises heart , lacerated liver , something with his spleen ( can not recall the words used ) lots of internal bleeding , they got TBoned by a Penndot snow plow / salt truck that was going 50 mph he spent 6 months in a hospital bed getting blood thinner shots every 12 hours in the stomach and that was after he got out of the hospital .....
I am sorry for your loss , but to tell me I have no clue , trust me I have a very good clue .... his two best friends in life died , and he was reported dead on the news .... that is as close as anyone ever gets without being there ....
was not intending to be insensitive ...
I am done here ....
I agree and im sorry for your loss, for these parents there is also the media circus surronding the incident, it must be a whirlwind of emotion and it doesnt help some half wit sticking a microphone in your face wanting to know your evey emotion. This whole thread makes my stomach turn.
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Precisely. Me as well.
They wouldn't. But wait! There's more!
So, the media should have shown their little bodies and their dead faces on TV?
Read your quote above. You are a full blown conspiracy theorist (with questionable intelligence yourself) masquerading around as the Devils Advocate.
You bash folks for "believing everything thier Government tells them" all the while believing everything you see on the internet..., and you expect to be taking seriously???
Precisely. Me as well.
They wouldn't. But wait! There's more!
So, the media should have shown their little bodies and their dead faces on TV?
Read your quote above. You are a full blown conspiracy theorist (with questionable intelligence yourself) masquerading around as the Devils Advocate.
You bash folks for "believing everything thier Government tells them" all the while believing everything you see on the internet..., and you expect to be taking seriously???
clearly you just came to flame , you did not bother to watch the video from the link directly above your post , you did not bother to acknowledge that not even the families where permitted to see the bodies of their own children and NONE of them put up a fuss about it ( odd as hell ) , you did not bother to acknowledge any other inconsistencies or out and out fabrications or lies ... but I am the one who has questionable intelligence ??? umm ok ....
talk about acting like a
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I watched some of the first and quickly realized it was a waste of my time. I also considered the source and I've told you before where I stand on you wastes of skin conspiracy theorists. Expect more of the same.
talk about acting like a
Do you do any reading outside of what you see in the interwebs?
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"A man's got to know his limitations."
well there is half the problem ... YOU HALF looked at it ....
no need to comment when you clearly are unaware of the content in its entirety .....
that is like watching just the first half ( or less ) of a football game and then trying to explain why one team won or lost based on watching part of the game and have no clue what happened in the second half , hell the team you assumed won very well may have lost yet you built your case on ( or in this case made your mind up on ) what you seen and gave little credence ( or no credence as in this case ) to what you did not see ....
you would not do that ( I am assuming ) in a breakdown of a football game would you ?
then why do it with something that has such far greater consequences ?
just sayin
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No. It's nothing like that. I guess I failed to mention the reputation of the source (you) of this crap; Has a reputation for posting crap and creating drama.
I thought you were "done here" .... again.
No. It's nothing like that. I guess I failed to mention the reputation of the source (you) of this crap; Has a reputation for posting crap and creating drama.
I thought you were "done here" .... again.
so again you resort to flames when you have nothing else ... typical dick head move on your part ... I have grown used to such moves around here ....its all good /rolls eyes
EDIT ... as a side note I find it interesting you decided to post here and not the page the video I spoke of was posted on .... points toward this being more of an attack on me than the criteria in the debate ... but carry on all the same
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Yea, I expected as much. Thanks for the rep!
two things that elude these wacked out conspiracy theoristswe have to look at common sense and logic.
Couldnt agree moreSandy Hook was staged because … many of the parents display a lack of visible grief.This point certainly wins the prize of most ignorant and narrow minded. Anyone who has been around people who are in the grieving process will explain that there is no one way – or correct way – to grieve and people display grief in many different ways. Some parents of Sandy Hook appear more upset than others during TV appearances.
These vile claims in particular highlight how twisted, ignorant and narrow-minded some of these conspiracy theorists can be and we have seen firsthand some sick and frankly bizarre posts made my individuals who question the “lack of tears” and composure of certain grieving parents and [even more bizarrely] try to claim that this is proof that they are crisis actors, not grieving parents.
thanks for posting Zu, great article
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http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age2112578/pg1
Debunking the Sandy hook conspiracy video, point-by-point
Since no one has really taken the time to debunk this here you go:
First off the guy that created this video is Alex J.Now that that's out of the way let's look at the content of the video...
Theory 1: The first thing the video tries to allege is that there is a second shooter. They love to grab early media footage and then use that as "evidence" of their claims, as if the media's first reporting is somehow golden. Odd that conspiracy theorists distrust the media, then turn around and use its raw reporting claims as evidence. Anyway, you can easily google and figure out who the guy in the woods was.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
He is the father of a student there and the athletic director at the highschool. He was on his way to the school to help make gingerbread houses with 1st graders when he heard the shots. He was unarmed, arrested, detained, questioned, and let go. The story of the guy in the woods was a dead end, so the media dropped it. That is the problem with the 24 hour news cycle, they will report any lead they get before sorting out facts. However, this is hardly evidence of a conspiracy.
The video even makes the ridiculous claim that since the guy was sitting in the FRONT of the police car, that he must have some "crazy" credentials. Yeah, what is more likely...that this guy was a concerned father or that he was a man with some "crazy" credentials on a black ops mission to shoot up a school but he just didn't have the skills to properly vacate, and so he ended up getting himself captured by lowly local law enforcement, AND broadcast on national tv, potentially exposing his super secret black op? C'mon.
Theory 2: The gun discrepancy. This can be chalked up to contradictory reporting, which is going to happen when the media competes with itself to be the first one to break any new details. There have already been articles clearing up the discrepancies: [link to edition.cnn.com]
Theory 3: The nurse is fake and does not exist. This is completely false, and has been debunked with evidence: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
Theory 4: The laughing/crying father. This means absolutely nothing. No one can judge how a father copes with the loss of his daughter, and it's offensive that people are criticizing him for it. I have been to several funerals, I have witnessed family members and friends switch in and out of laughter and tears. They think of fond memories of the one they lost, they tell stories, they laugh, and they cry. People grieve in different ways. We do not have the right to criticize his reaction, and it's not evidence of a conspiracy.
Theory 5: Emillie Parker is not dead. This is the most absurd thing I have seen so far in the video. The video alleges not only that the girl is not dead, but that the parents were so stupid they brought out the wrong sister for the photo op. What? Do people honestly believe that? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] It's a picture of her sister. Obviously. They look alike because, you know, they're sister's. This guy uses the same photoshop trick as the conspiracy video and gets the same effect. [link to i.imgur.com]
Theory 6: One piece of footage of the crime scene does not show many ambulances and shows no children. The author claims this means this was all staged. He goes on to say that only one ambulance was there the whole time and they quickly blocked off all exits. The problem with this is twofold. Firstly, there are several pictures of multiple ambulances: [link to www.politico.com] Secondly, this footage that the videos author is commenting on is likely taken well after the shooting took place, which easily explains why there aren't a bunch of ambulances around and no one is panicking. More things taken out of context because they fit the authors narrative.
Theory 7: Time stamps on the webpage set up for donations state the page was created before the shootings took place. Google search results do not always accurately reflect the date the content was published. Example) Here is a date restrictive search of sandy hook ( [link to www.google.com (secure)] ), listing all articles that appear to be published before the shooting took place. Well shit, according to google this there are articles and videos from these dates talking about the shooting: Jan 14, 2012 , Jun 19, 2012 , Sept 16, 2012 ..well before the shooting took place. Debunked.
"A man's got to know his limitations."
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I'm sure. Everywhere else as well.
So we're clear. Conspiracy theorists, like yourself, are vermin to me. I don't entertain vermin. I don't respect vermin. I treat vermin...well, as the vermin that they are.
Yea, I expected as much. Thanks for the rep!
anytime , I am always willing to give credit where credit is do
nice...you should see my inbox from this guy...he's a piece of work
Yea, I expected as much. Thanks for the rep!
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Delusional, conspiracy attention whore who uses back channels to stalk you when his delusions are challenged? We should be used to the type by now. It's called uneducated and immature. Funny how those types always have the most to say.
Just love how people talk on the internet , 99.999% of the time they never have the balls to do it to your face ... but carry on all the same if it makes you feel tough at the end of the day that is all that will matter you feeling tough ....
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why don't ya post it Hindes ....
I think it went something like this ....
I know you do not like me much but happy birthday all the same , hope you have a nice day ( or something to that effect )
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My wife wants me to stop being so blunt to people's faces. She thinks I'm rude. I try to explain that I hate fake people, believe in tough love and call out BS when I see it, but she's too sweet a person to understand and always cares about other peoples feelings. It's admirable really, but...
Anyway, let me assure you I'd say everything I have to say to your face.
i guess you forgot about the one where you called me an alcoholic......because you read a few posts of mine on the Internet, you have the knowledge to understand my daily habits
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I could have made the exact same post as it applies to me as well
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Whatever happened to the policy of addressing / attacking the post as opposed to the poster?
Someone makes a point ignore it or address it, and if you can debunk it.
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