Poor fundamentals= Poor coaching?

[zulater]

Here you are with a back up qb playing. As a coaching staff don't you have to stress fundamentals to the team leading up to the game? Instead we commit turnovers, penalties galore, and lose the special teams battle.

You tell me how this doesn't reflect poorly on the coaching?

[polamalubeast]

The Steelers had not many turnovers in offense before the latest games

The penalties have never been a problem before this year

[zulater]

The Steelers had not many turnovers in offense before the latest games

The penalties have never been a problem before this year

Did we lose the turnover battle last week? Are we losing it today?

Are we not the most penalized team n the league?

Are our special teams ranked near the bottom?

Yes, yes, and yes.

[Count Steeler]

Special teams is still a head scratcher.

Yes, fundamentals are a coaching problem. Time to get back to basics.

[st33lersguy]

Mike Momlin has done such a horrible job this year as the Pittsburgh Holders' head coach

[SCSTILLER]

Mike Momlin has done such a horrible job this year as the Pittsburgh Holders' head coach

I completely agree. It seems like every other pass completion a yellow flag for holding is thrown on the Steelers. We beat ourselves more than other teams beat us!

[Edman]

Today is simply a reflection of poor coaching. Nothing else.

Starting a 3rd string QB is one thing, but to not get the rest of the team well-prepared is another. The RB's started fumbling and it just snowballed from there. Now the Offense is in No-Mans Land.

[X-Terminator]

Mike Momlin has done such a horrible job this year as the Pittsburgh Holders' head coach

Fine, let's fire him then, if for no other reason than that I won't have to read that stupid fucking nickname on every fucking post.

[zulater]

Today is simply a reflection of poor coaching. Nothing else.

I get that we might not have the best back up qb's in the league. But ask yourself this. If the Steelers had an average starting qb instead of one of the best in the league, how good ( or bad) would this team be?

[fansince'76]

Fine, let's fire him then, if for no other reason than that I won't have to read that stupid fucking nickname on every fucking post.

This.

[Seven]

Fine, let's fire him then, if for no other reason than that I won't have to read that stupid fucking nickname on every fucking post.

I'm actually laughing out loud at this haha

[steelpride12]

Today is simply a reflection of poor coaching. Nothing else.

Starting a 3rd string QB is one thing, but to not get the rest of the team well-prepared is another. The RB's started fumbling and it just snowballed from there. Now the Offense is in No-Mans Land.

Dude, shut the fuck up with "Momlin" It's been old since the first time you said you. Your argument is also sad.

[zulater]

Why do we never try to block the punt?

[BlastFurnace]

Fine, let's fire him then, if for no other reason than that I won't have to read that stupid fucking nickname on every fucking post.

You can't deny that this team is never prepared against bad teams. Every year with Tomlin, it's the same thing over and over again.

Truth of the matter is, Ben is the only reason Tomlin has a winning record as a HC.

[zulater]

If Mike Tomlin didn't have Big Ben, would he be a good coach?

I just don't know. This team is so fundamentally out of whack it drives you batty!

I don't know if we'd go 5-11 with a qb of Flacco's quality.

[SCSTILLER]

I understand the 3rd string QB thing, but when every running back fumbles, and one of them twice, a WR who drops everything that comes his way, and offensive linemen think that a good block means grabbling ahold of a jersy, then there is poor coaching plain and simple! The poor coaching starts with the top dog, Mike Tomlin.

[polamalubeast]

If Mike Tomlin didn't have Big Ben, would he be a good coach?

I just don't know. This team is so fundamentally out of whack it drives you batty!

I don't know if we'd go 5-11 with a qb of Flacco's quality.

OVERREACTION


since 2007,the steelers are 4-4 without Ben...Not bad

Look at the record of Bill Belichik without Tom Brady.....

Every coach look bad with a bad QB

[X-Terminator]

You can't deny that this team is never prepared against bad teams. Every year with Tomlin, it's the same thing over and over again.

Truth of the matter is, Ben is the only reason Tomlin has a winning record as a HC.

Yeah, and they had the same problem when Bill Cowher was HC. And just like now, fickle ass fans were calling for his head.

Sure, let's go ahead and be like other franchises and fire HCs like they change their underwear. That'll fix everything!

[Seven]

Yeah, and they had the same problem when Bill Cowher was HC. And just like now, fickle ass fans were calling for his head.

Sure, let's go ahead and be like other franchises and fire HCs like they change their underwear. That'll fix everything!

The sky will be falling for about a week or so. The reasonable fans will put our heads down and push through the bullshit like we always do after a bad loss.

[zulater]

OVERREACTION


since 2007,the steelers are 4-4 without Ben...Not bad

Look at the record of Bill Belichik without Tom Brady.....

Every coach look bad with a bad QB

The difference being Bellichick went 11-5 without Brady. And more to the point he had an adequete back up.

I guess the position of the Tomlin defense is that he has no say in the make up of the roster and couldn't have done more to get a NFL worthy back up?

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The sky will be falling for about a week or so. The reasonable fans will put our heads down and push through the bullshit like we always do after a bad loss.

Why is it unreasonable to point out that this team is fundamentally flawed, and even with Ben this team commits too many unforced errors to be elite?

[Steeldude]

I thought fundamentals weren't important.

As for Tomlin, it's not just fundamentals, it's why is Batch on the roster if you don't trust him to pass over 5 yards? If Batch is viewed to be that poor of a passer then he shouldn't be taking up a roster spot. The same goes for Leftwich.

Also, why are you punishing the team by benching your first 3 RBs in favor of a player who barely weighs 180? I understand they each fumbled, but it does nothing to bench all of your RBs. Dwyer was the only RB who was actually hit in such a way that it was difficult to hold onto the ball. I know there is never an excuse for a fumble and I do agree with sending a player to the bench, but not all 3 RBs.

[X-Terminator]

Why is it unreasonable to point out that this team is fundamentally flawed, and even with Ben this team commits too many unforced errors to be elite?

Because you know what the next step is. And I personally do not want to read that overreactive bullshit all week long.

[polamalubeast]

Zulater

Belichek has a losing record in his career without Brady

this is completely pathetic your overreaction since the steelers not make mistakes like this very often

[Seven]

The difference being Bellichick went 11-5 without Brady. And more to the point he had an adequete back up.

I guess the position of the Tomlin defense is that he has no say in the make up of the roster and couldn't have done more to get a NFL worthy back up?

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Why is it unreasonable to point out that this team is fundamentally flawed, and even with Ben this team commits too many unforced errors to be elite?

Sorry, I'm too busy responding to the twelve other overreaction threads to address this

[BlastFurnace]

Yeah, and they had the same problem when Bill Cowher was HC. And just like now, fickle ass fans were calling for his head.

Sure, let's go ahead and be like other franchises and fire HCs like they change their underwear. That'll fix everything!

This is Ben's team. Not Tomlin's, not LeBeau's, not Troy's, not anyone else's. It's Ben's team.

[zulater]

I thought fundamentals weren't important.

As for Tomlin, it's not just fundamentals, it's why is Batch on the roster if you don't trust him to pass over 5 yards? If Batch is viewed to be that poor of a passer then he shouldn't be taking up a roster spot. The same goes for Leftwich.

Also, why are you punishing the team by benching your first 3 RBs in favor of a player who barely weighs 180? I understand they each fumbled, but it does nothing to bench all of your RBs. Dwyer was the only RB who was actually hit in such a way that it was difficult to hold onto the ball. I know there is never an excuse for a fumble and I do agree with sending a player to the bench, but not all 3 RBs.

Yeah it smacks of Romeo Crennell benching a player after every fumble.

And hell if the new standard is that mental errors wont be tolerated and will be punished by lack of playing time, then why is Wallace even active on game days

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This is Ben's team. Not Tomlin's, not LeBeau's, not Troy's, not anyone else's. It's Ben's team.

QFT.

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Zulater

Belichek has a losing record in his career without Brady

this is completely pathetic your overreaction since the steelers not make mistakes like this very often

Most of that was with the Browns. Who's the last coach to have a winning record on that team?

[polamalubeast]

This is Ben's team. Not Tomlin's, not LeBeau's, not Troy's, not anyone else's. It's Ben's team.

I did not know

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Most of that was with the Browns. Who's the last coach to have a winning record on that team?

Brian Bellick,John Harbaugh

[steelerdude15]

Yeah, and they had the same problem when Bill Cowher was HC. And just like now, fickle ass fans were calling for his head.

Sure, let's go ahead and be like other franchises and fire HCs like they change their underwear. That'll fix everything!

I was just about to say that.

[zulater]

I did not know

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Brian Bellick,John Harbaugh

No. Different team. Changed cities, changed cultures.

[86WARD]

I get that we might not have the best back up qb's in the league. But ask yourself this. If the Steelers had an average starting qb instead of one of the best in the league, how good ( or bad) would this team be?

A competent back up (average) probably could've won last week and probably would've won today. To me an average/competent back up is one that can make throws, manage the game, not make the big mistake and come out .500 during his "tenure?"

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There's definitely a "lazy attitude" and an undisciplined type of "play" happening and it's been happening for a little while now...