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    Re: QB's coming in for workouts/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    I bet Tomlin walked in on Johnson banging his wife, and Al Everest was filming it.


    I wanted to come back and add that I hope Hoyer is a longterm answer. Wouldn't be shocked if he makes it to camp next year.
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    Re: QB's coming in for workouts/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by 7willBheaven View Post
    No complaints here....I'd be happy with either and part of me was leaning towards Kafka...but I trust in the team and they see something in Hoyer that was better than Kafka. Maybe he becomes the young(er) long(er) term backup we've all been wanting. Who knows. Welcome aboard Hoyer!
    I'm also glad we didn't sign Kafka, just because if he ever played, of how annoying it would be to see every blogger think he was so clever by calling it a "Kafka-esque" game.

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    Word is Jerrod Johnson was first choice and couldn't get out of his UFL contract.

    Hoyer is a good young quarterback. Very excited to have him around.
    How could he not get out of a UFL contract, by the way? The league basically went under and they've cancelled the rest of the season. Actually "postponed" indefinitely, but nobody thinks it's actually going to ever get played.
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    Re: QB's coming in for workouts/etc

    Here is what I wrote in a different thread.

    Brian Hoyer was a name that my buddy threw out when we were having this discussion. What I remember of him when he was drafted was that he had poor mechanics and "happy feet". Not a real cerebral player.

    If I had my druthers....I would go with Kafka...who would be a better long-term back up. HOWEVER...Hoyer does show some ability to plink and plunk his way down the field with the short passes, which fits into our offensive scheme this year.

    Long term...I think that Kafka could have developed into a better backup...but with virtually NO time to develop...I understand why Hoyer is the choice. He really does have a certain skill set that fits Haley's scheme....just dont ask him to ad-lib or get fancy.

    He will be okay with the short and intermediate game....irratic on long passes. He also tends to hurry his throws if the defense can get in his head. If we decide to keep him for the long run...we are going to need a QB coach to work on his footwork and mechanics.

    But again...the positive side is that he fits Haleys scheme and can be sucessfull in the underneath routes if our line protects him.
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    Re: QB's coming in for workouts/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    How could he not get out of a UFL contract, by the way? The league basically went under and they've cancelled the rest of the season. Actually "postponed" indefinitely, but nobody thinks it's actually going to ever get played.
    I guess a contract is a contract, whether anything tangible is coming of it or not. Supposedly all the UFL guys are in this situation.
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    Re: QB's coming in for workouts/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    How could he not get out of a UFL contract, by the way? The league basically went under and they've cancelled the rest of the season. Actually "postponed" indefinitely, but nobody thinks it's actually going to ever get played.
    Not sure if it ever happened...but The UFL was working on allowing an escape clauses for all their players which would allow them to jump to the NFL or CFL without the six figure penalty that players were reguired to pay.

    It would actually work to their benifit....because the more talented "homeless" players often avoid the UFL for that reason.
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    Re: QB's coming in for workouts/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by LLT View Post
    Not sure if it ever happened...but The UFL was working on allowing an escape clauses for all their players which would allow them to jump to the NFL or CFL without the six figure penalty that players were reguired to pay.

    It would actually work to their benifit....because the more talented "homeless" players often avoid the UFL for that reason.
    I don't believe that plan ever came to fruition, unfortunately. Although it's hard to find information on the UFL... so who knows really. But I'd imagine if there was a clause such as that Jerrod Johnson would be a Steeler right now.
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    Re: UPDATE: Steelers sign QB Hoyer

    I remember watching Hoyer in a preseason game with the cheats he was so so. I hope Charlie can get us a few wins till Ben gets back. Plus I really hope Charlie can stay healthy.

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    Let me go on record to say I have as much faith in Hoyer as I would in my next door neighbor getting under center .... have I told you my next door neighbor is a 75 year old widow that walks really slow and is hunched over ? well I have now

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    Re: QB's coming in for workouts/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Seven View Post
    I don't believe that plan ever came to fruition, unfortunately. Although it's hard to find information on the UFL... so who knows really. But I'd imagine if there was a clause such as that Jerrod Johnson would be a Steeler right now.
    Everything I've seen looks like it was a $150,000 transfer fee to be paid by the NFL team, not the player:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/ufl-c...eement-2010-11
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-transfer-fee/

    So if Johnson was the guy they really wanted, it looks like it would've been pretty simple and inexpensive (by NFL standards) to get past that obstacle. So my money is still on banging Tomlin's wife while Everest had the video.
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    Re: UPDATE: Steelers sign QB Hoyer

    Hoyer Paranoia!



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    Re: QB's coming in for workouts/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Everything I've seen looks like it was a $150,000 transfer fee to be paid by the NFL team, not the player:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/ufl-c...eement-2010-11
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-transfer-fee/

    So if Johnson was the guy they really wanted, it looks like it would've been pretty simple and inexpensive (by NFL standards) to get past that obstacle. So my money is still on banging Tomlin's wife while Everest had the video.
    Haha, well I believe there is something specific to this year in the UFL contracts that are mucked up. It might have to do with the league being frozen right now. I'm not going to pretend to know for certain that they went after Johnson and couldn't sign him, but I've heard several people indicate that (Ed Bouchette being the only guy in the public eye who I can point to). But considering they reportedly went after Dennis Dixon, I think it's safe to say Johnson was at least considered.
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    Hoyer >>>> Dixon and Johnson. They are better off...


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    Re: UPDATE: Steelers sign QB Hoyer

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    Hoyer >>>> Dixon and Johnson. They are better off...
    I agree

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