This ain't your mom/dads USA !

[Craic]

Bemoaning - "And here, in a nutshell, is what is wrong with our entire society...."

Ahh - so your saying that any kind of disagreement is bemoaning. Sure, whatever.

Now, backing away from the strawmen, let's get back to the questions I've asked, because it's becoming pretty clear that you're not wanting to answer any of them.

[ALLD]

Obama stripped the work provisions in welfare instituted under Clinton. We are screwed. The rich will be poor, but the poor will continue to be poor.

The national debt will inflate and the price of everything will escalate. There will also be limited growth which if the dumb college kids google Jimmy Carter and *stagflation, they will know what they voted for. I wish you all luck. Like I wrote in another thread, I would give up the Steelers winning the Super Bowl just to get rid of Barry. This election was more important than anything in the last 30 years including 9/11.

There will be a new generation called the "Lost Generation".

[Vis]

Let's see about your penetrating questions. Yes i work with a charity. no, it isn't one for the poor.

What can i say about small communities where everybody knows everybody being better than big cities where they don't at taking care of people? I can say we won't live in that kind of world again unless a plague kills two thirds of the population at least so it's useless to waste time on it. we have to deal with the cities we have at the populations we have. So answer my question - how would you deal with the cities we have at the population levels we have while insuring no one starves?

[GoSlash27]

I stayed up last night, as alot of you all did, to watch the election results and the surprising end, and one of the guest speaker's was O'Reilly. He of course talked of the voter's and the country's economy and problems. He mentioned how he was completely baffled how the voter's would accept the state of the economy, the welfare situation, the jobless situation at the highest ever, and still vote for O'bama. Then he made a comment that hit me....he said that the voter's just want 'stuff' from their government. They want things given to them. He generally mentioned that the majority running the country now is Hispanic, latino's, gay's, black and women. That anyone who watched and understood the country's situation and future would no way vote to repeat. Ummm....what say you?

O'Reilly is wrong. The exit polling was very clear that a plurality of voters wanted the budget balanced and thought that the government was doing too much.
Republicans who were not Mitt Romney did just fine last night and they did surprisingly well at the State level.
Voters didn't reject conservatism last night. They rejected Mitt Romney.

[Vis]

O'Reilly is wrong. The exit polling was very clear that a plurality of voters wanted the budget balanced and thought that the government was doing too much.
Republicans who were not Mitt Romney did just fine last night and they did surprisingly well at the State level.
Voters didn't reject conservatism last night. They rejected Mitt Romney.

all the idiots who talked about rape lost. Marriage equality won, pot is legal and there is an openly lesbian Senator. We'll take it.

That being said, please keep chasing a dwindling demographic. I don't mind.

[GoSlash27]

all the idiots who talked about rape lost. Marriage equality won, pot is legal and there is an openly lesbian Senator. We'll take it.

That being said, please keep chasing a dwindling demographic. I don't mind.

Not sure who you're directing that at, but if it's me you've got the wrong guy. I happen to agree with you on that part, though not in all the ways you'd expect.

[BnG_Hevn]

Wow. Which groups of people are you speaking of exactly? Any minority of any kind or do you have specific racial categories of people in mind?

This thread is getting ugly fast. Maybe it's unfair that all conservatives get lumped in with those who think like this but to counter that, some conservatives will have to call bigotry out.

If you misconstrued that into a racial slur then YOU need to rethink your stance. When I said minorities, I meant just that, minorities.

Specifically? Well, seeing how whites are the majority I'd say anyone non-white. And before you twist that around to meet your logic, I'm not in any way saying that whites don't abuse the system as well.

The statement was in response to a previous post about minorities running the country. If the country is bankrupt, there is nothing to run / no government handouts to be had.

[steeldawg]

If you misconstrued that into a racial slur then YOU need to rethink your stance. When I said minorities, I meant just that, minorities.

Specifically? Well, seeing how whites are the majority I'd say anyone non-white. And before you twist that around to meet your logic, I'm not in any way saying that whites don't abuse the system as well.

The statement was in response to a previous post about minorities running the country. If the country is bankrupt, there is nothing to run / no government handouts to be had.

Because everyone knows anyone non white relys on goverment handouts, sheesh!

[Vis]

Not sure who you're directing that at, but if it's me you've got the wrong guy. I happen to agree with you on that part, though not in all the ways you'd expect.

Directing what? The idiots were Akin and Moordoch. "Please keep chasing..." was directed at the GOP as a whole.

[Craic]

Let's see about your penetrating questions. Yes i work with a charity. no, it isn't one for the poor.

What can i say about small communities where everybody knows everybody being better than big cities where they don't at taking care of people? I can say we won't live in that kind of world again unless a plague kills two thirds of the population at least so it's useless to waste time on it. we have to deal with the cities we have at the populations we have. So answer my question - how would you deal with the cities we have at the population levels we have while insuring no one starves?

Sorry it took me a few days to get back to this...

Alright, so the charities issue: then hopefully you understand my point that charities, especially those who work for the poor, such as churches, really aren't homogeneous as you've described. In my experience, that aspect of the work of the church is about as heterogeneous as one can get in the country.

Small communities: that wasn't actually my question. My question was, what do we say about the fact that it was the big cities, where the democrats get most of the votes - that the people are known to step over others starving in the gutters where the smaller towns where that usually doesn't happen, are the ones that usually vote conservative? That was the question.