Steelers Depot: Jets S LaRon Landry Fined $15,750 For Horse Collar Tackle On A.Brown

[steelreserve]

Yeah, the "new" NFL is like the "new" NHL. They both suck and both need to be sent to the trash can of history while there's still time to save them.

Probably the worst thing to happen to hockey was the rule to stop bench-clearing brawls, where you get an automatic 10-game suspension for leaving the bench. Things have never been the same.

[X-Terminator]

Probably the worst thing to happen to hockey was the rule to stop bench-clearing brawls, where you get an automatic 10-game suspension for leaving the bench. Things have never been the same.

I can kinda understand that - things were getting a little out of hand before that rule. But it was the instigator penalty implemented by the NBA reject in 1992 and its inclusion of a misconduct penalty in 1997 that REALLY killed the NHL. That's why I always say Roger Goodell and Gary Bettman were separated at birth. In the name of "saving them," they have actually done the exact opposite and completely killed their leagues.

[Craic]

Seriously Preach, 3 fines in 7 YEARS compared to, what 20 fines per week? If that is not significantly different, than I don't know what is.

I'm sure there were quite a few more, those were just the ones I grabbed from a short search. I'm not saying it's the same thing however. The implication was that the NFL DIDN'T fine players in the past. Even just these three examples proves that point wrong. That's all I was saying here.

Probably the worst thing to happen to hockey was the rule to stop bench-clearing brawls, where you get an automatic 10-game suspension for leaving the bench. Things have never been the same.

Funny thing. I argued that same point with a buddy of mine about 10 years ago.

I can kinda understand that - things were getting a little out of hand before that rule. But it was the instigator penalty implemented by the NBA reject in 1992 and its inclusion of a misconduct penalty in 1997 that REALLY killed the NHL. That's why I always say Roger Goodell and Gary Bettman were separated at birth. In the name of "saving them," they have actually done the exact opposite and completely killed their leagues.

And even funnier thing X-Term, is that referees agree with you. A buddy of mine used to ref, even did a couple Major Junior games. From what he says, pretty much up and down the ranks, refs dislike the instigator rule because it stopped hockey from being a self-officiated sport. Now, there's a whole lot more cheap crap that happens. I still call hockey "basketball on ice" now, but what Bettman has done to Hockey VASTLY outweighs what Goodell has done the football. Everything from changing the name of the leagues and conferences to trying to remove "clutching and grabbing," from officials actually blowing whistles in the third period of playoffs games for penalties that didn't take away scoring chances, to the instigator penalty - it has changed vastly more than football has.

[steelreserve]

I can kinda understand that - things were getting a little out of hand before that rule. But it was the instigator penalty implemented by the NBA reject in 1992 and its inclusion of a misconduct penalty in 1997 that REALLY killed the NHL. That's why I always say Roger Goodell and Gary Bettman were separated at birth. In the name of "saving them," they have actually done the exact opposite and completely killed their leagues.

but ... there's more scoring now! That HAS to mean it's better!

[steelreserve]

Funny thing. I argued that same point with a buddy of mine about 10 years ago.

|What I want to know was, were you the one arguing in favor of bench-clearing brawls or against them?

[Kornbread]

If they keep on its going to turn into flag football.

[Chidi29]

Vikings' Griffen, Guion get fined by NFL

Posted by: Mark Craig under Vikings, NFC Updated: September 14, 2012 - 4:01 PM

A league spokesman said Vikings defensive linemen Letroy Guion and Everson Griffen are lighter by a combined $23,625 this week.
Guion was fined $7,875 for roughing the passer in Sunday's 26-23 overtime win against Jacksonville. Guion "unnecessarily struck an opponent late," the spokesman said.
Guion, who was penalized on the play, jumped on quarterback Blaine Gabbert, who had fallen. He didn't spear Gabbert or hit him in the head. He dived on top of Gabbert. After the game, Guion said he never heard a whistle.
Meanwhile, Griffen was fined $15,750 for roughing the passer by making helmet-to-helmet contact. He wasn't penalized on the play.

Is the NFL broke? Makes me wonder..and yea as someone posted before this new NFL sucks.

Fine money does not go to the NFL. It goes to charity.

[Craic]

|What I want to know was, were you the one arguing in favor of bench-clearing brawls or against them?

For them. In the NHL, bench brawls were the final step in reacting against certain issues, such as running the goalie, or sending out your goons against a scoring line. Of course, the Flyers took that to an extreme in the seventies, and that element of it had to be drawn back into balance with the rest of the game. But overall, I'm still think benchbrawls serve a particular purpose in hockey. You hae a bench brawl in a game, and it's over. It limits carryover to other games.

Then again, the rest of my post (to X-term) already clarified my position, so I can't help but ask why this point blank question?