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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallace108 View Post
    And that's what I'm saying. You're informed. You obviously follow the issues. The majority of voters don't. Take my wife for instance ... she couldn't tell you who the vice president is. Yet her vote will count just the same as yours. And there are more people out there like her than there are like you. Oh, people will SAY that they follow the issues and they know what's going on, but once you get past the talking points, far too many have no clue. And lets face it, Democrats are much more effective with talking points. Which of these two statements do you think most people would want to hear?

    1. I'm going to give you a car.
    2. You need to get a job and save up to buy a car.

    Oftentimes, the conservative message isn't the easy one, and it's not what people want to hear. It's easy for Obama and Democrats to target people who just listen to the talking points and don't really understand the issues. This is the group of voters who are going to decide the election. And they're easily persuaded by the "blame Bush" rhetoric. That's why I'm saying that Romney can't just focus on the economy. What might seem obvious to you isn't obvious to everyone.
    But again, that's where I disagree.

    Romney: "I know business. I WILL give you jobs, not just promise them."
    Obama: "I'll give you everything you want....later...you know, after you elect me again. I PROMISE!"

    Obama is no better than Wimpy telling Popeye "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today".

    And of course, the Gipper gave us "Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?"...Romney just needs to couple that with the fact that the middle class average wealth dropped from 126k to 77k in just 3 years. BOOM! Game. Set. Match.
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    Re: This is what a dictator does: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by suitanim View Post
    And of course, the Gipper gave us "Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?"...Romney just needs to couple that with the fact that the middle class average wealth dropped from 126k to 77k in just 3 years. BOOM! Game. Set. Match.
    Bu-bu-bu-Bush! Bu-bu-bu-Tea Party! Bu-bu-bu-damn obstructionist House Republicans! Oh, and did he only brag ten million times that he got OBL singlehandedly?




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    Re: This is what a dictator does: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by suitanim View Post
    But again, that's where I disagree.

    Romney: "I know business. I WILL give you jobs, not just promise them."
    Obama: "I'll give you everything you want....later...you know, after you elect me again. I PROMISE!"

    Obama is no better than Wimpy telling Popeye "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today".

    And of course, the Gipper gave us "Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?"...Romney just needs to couple that with the fact that the middle class average wealth dropped from 126k to 77k in just 3 years. BOOM! Game. Set. Match.
    Middle class average of $126K!!!!!

    You have to make 6 figures JUST TO BE MIDDLE CLASS????

    What is the income for low class?

    I guess you have what, these categories?

    1) welfare
    2) unemployed
    3) poor
    4) low class
    5) lower middle class
    6) middle class
    7) upper middle class
    8) upper class
    9) rich
    10) financially independent

    I would love to know what income is considered where. I figured 6 figures was upper class, not rich, but upper class.
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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    This is interesting, from wikipedia's site - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_..._United_States



    Academic Class Models
    Dennis Gilbert, 2002 William Thompson & Joseph Hickey, 2005 Leonard Beeghley, 2004
    Class Typical characteristics Class Typical characteristics Class Typical characteristics
    Capitalist class (1%) Top-level executives, high-rung politicians, heirs. Ivy League education common. Upper class (1%) Top-level executives, celebrities, heirs; income of $500,000+ common. Ivy league education common. The super-rich (0.9%) Multi-millionaires whose incomes commonly exceed $350,000; includes celebrities and powerful executives/politicians. Ivy League education common.
    Upper middle class[1] (15%) Highly-educated (often with graduate degrees), most commonly salaried, professionals and middle management with large work autonomy. Upper middle class[1] (15%) Highly-educated (often with graduate degrees) professionals & managers with household incomes varying from the high 5-figure range to commonly above $100,000. The Rich (5%) Households with net worth of $1 million or more; largely in the form of home equity. Generally have college degrees.
    Middle class (plurality/
    majority?; ca. 46%) College-educated workers with considerably higher-than-average incomes and compensation; a man making $57,000 and a woman making $40,000 may be typical.
    Lower middle class (30%) Semi-professionals and craftsmen with a roughly average standard of living. Most have some college education and are white-collar. Lower middle class (32%) Semi-professionals and craftsmen with some work autonomy; household incomes commonly range from $35,000 to $75,000. Typically, some college education.
    Working class (30%) Clerical and most blue-collar workers whose work is highly routinized. Standard of living varies depending on number of income earners, but is commonly just adequate. High school education.
    Working class (32%) Clerical, pink- and blue-collar workers with often low job security; common household incomes range from $16,000 to $30,000. High school education. Working class
    (ca. 40% - 45%) Blue-collar workers and those whose jobs are highly routinized with low economic security; a man making $40,000 and a woman making $26,000 may be typical. High school education.
    Working poor (13%) Service, low-rung clerical and some blue-collar workers. High economic insecurity and risk of poverty. Some high school education.
    Lower class (ca. 14% - 20%) Those who occupy poorly-paid positions or rely on government transfers. Some high school education.
    Underclass (12%) Those with limited or no participation in the labor force. Reliant on government transfers. Some high school education. The poor (ca. 12%) Those living below the poverty line with limited to no participation in the labor force; a household income of $18,000 may be typical. Some high school education.
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    Re: This is what a dictator does: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by BnG_Hevn View Post
    Middle class average of $126K!!!!!

    You have to make 6 figures JUST TO BE MIDDLE CLASS????

    What is the income for low class?

    I guess you have what, these categories?

    1) welfare
    2) unemployed
    3) poor
    4) low class
    5) lower middle class
    6) middle class
    7) upper middle class
    8) upper class
    9) rich
    10) financially independent

    I would love to know what income is considered where. I figured 6 figures was upper class, not rich, but upper class.
    This isn't income, it's wealth, as in the value of all assets and investments. The salient point is not the numbers themselves, rather the fact that it dropped 40% (and is also exactly where it was in 1990) under Obama.
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    Re: This is what a dictator does: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    Where on Earth did you ever get *that* idea??
    You know... it really helps to move things along if you take what *I* type as my position instead of what *you* type. I never said anything even remotely like that.
    You never said that you would vote for Hopey McChange but you are hoping for another four year of him. Only taking what *you* typed as your position

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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    I've come to the conclusion that Obama is a lying politician... so is Romney.

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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerEmpire View Post
    I've come to the conclusion that Obama is a lying politician... so is Romney.
    They all are. Who said "never trust anyone willing to spend millions of dollars to take a $450,000 (?) a year job?
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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by SCSTILLER View Post
    They all are. Who said "never trust anyone willing to spend millions of dollars to take a $450,000 (?) a year job?
    You know it's $450,000 'for life' right ? ... at least that's what I heard it was changed to recently...
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    Re: This is what a dictator does: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by SCSTILLER View Post
    You never said that you would vote for Hopey McChange but you are hoping for another four year of him. Only taking what *you* typed as your position

    http://www.steelersuniverse.com/foru...l=1#post290292
    I will take this as something akin to an apology for your having misrepresented my position and graciously accept it. And for the record I am *not* "hoping" for 4 more years of Obama. I merely recognize that we're going to end up with 4 more years of Obama and I'd rather not have Obama with an (R) after his name just so you can pretend that his socialist policies are okay.
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    Re: This is what a dictator does: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerEmpire View Post
    I've come to the conclusion that Obama is a lying politician... so is Romney.
    I assume this wasn't a recent development?
    Of course they're both liars. They're not even convincing ones.
    Hell, I wouldn't trust either one with my wallet if I had a gun trained on them. The only reason they get away with it is because people like being lied to.
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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Actually, this "Bu-bu-but they're all liars" is just more of the same diversionary tactic. There's more going on here than just these simple black-and-white catch-all's....
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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by suitanim View Post
    Actually, this "Bu-bu-but they're all liars" is just more of the same diversionary tactic. There's more going on here than just these simple black-and-white catch-all's....
    Damn right there's more going on, but "they're all liars" is an important fact to acknowledge if you want to get to the bottom of just what that is.
    Clinton did it, Bush did it, Obama's doing it, and whoever wins this election is going to do it also.
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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by suitanim View Post
    Actually, this "Bu-bu-but they're all liars" is just more of the same diversionary tactic. There's more going on here than just these simple black-and-white catch-all's....
    I would imagine the fact that so many libertarian / Paul supporters are so arrogant, self righteous and unmitigated asses has probably hurt their cause more than it has helped.
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    Re: This is what a dictator does: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    I will take this as something akin to an apology for your having misrepresented my position and graciously accept it. And for the record I am *not* "hoping" for 4 more years of Obama. I merely recognize that we're going to end up with 4 more years of Obama and I'd rather not have Obama with an (R) after his name just so you can pretend that his socialist policies are okay.
    No apology, and good play on words BTW.
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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by GBMelBlount View Post
    I would imagine the fact that so many libertarian / Paul supporters are so arrogant, self righteous and unmitigated asses has probably hurt their cause more than it has helped.
    If you're going to chuck out insults in the hope of distracting people from the fact that you don't actually have a point, you should at least try to make it related to the post you're responding to. This one is a little too obvious and desperate.
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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Ron Paul supporters remind me of the occupy people. At their foundation they have some decent ideas. But in the end they offer nothing but empty platitudes, and nothing at all in the way of meaningful answers to anything that matters.

    They're great at telling everyone else what they're doing wrong. But if you ask them for a workable solution that actually could gain traction with any sort of existing or plausible plurality you get either bullshit or crickets.
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    Re: This is what a dictator does: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by SCSTILLER View Post
    No apology, and good play on words BTW.
    Thanks, but it was actually your play on words. I can't take credit for it. It is probably more apt than you know; I wonder what kind of "change" these anybody-but-Obama folks are "hoping" to get. Especially when you look at the guy they're expecting it from.
    By the buy... if I had misrepresented your position (knowingly or not), I would've apologized. There's nothing useful to be gained from arguing against a position that hasn't been taken.
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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by zulater View Post
    Ron Paul supporters remind me of the occupy people. At their foundation they have some decent ideas. But in the end they offer nothing but empty platitudes, and nothing at all in the way of workable solutions to anything that matters.

    They're great at telling everyone else what they're doing wrong. But if you ask them for a workable solution that actually could gain traction with any sort of existing or plausible plurality you get either bullshit or crickets.
    When your house is on fire, do you get mad at your smoke detector? 'Cuz really... this makes just about as much sense.
    Your argument seems to boil down to "you have to accept a large dose of bad in the hope of getting a little good". Correct me if I'm wrong.
    I say you are personally responsible for the actions of whoever you vote for. You either know these people are snakes when you pull the lever, or else you haven't exercised your vote responsibly by doing your research. Either way, you must take personal responsibility for what you have approved.
    Ain't no sense in being mad at me; I didn't make you do it.
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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    When your house is on fire, do you get mad at your smoke detector? 'Cuz really... this makes just about as much sense.
    Your argument seems to boil down to "you have to accept a large dose of bad in the hope of getting a little good". Correct me if I'm wrong.
    The smoke alarm doesn't put out the fire now does it? We're happy that you can point out a fire that we already know exists. But that's about all you do. Because you don't own the fire truck, have access to the hydrant or the means to open it, or even a fucking rain jacket to hold the hose you don't possess.

    Nothing but a big wind coming from an empty cave. You haven't or wont ever solve a real problem in your collective lives.
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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by zulater View Post
    The smoke alarm doesn't put out the fire now does it?

    We're happy that you can point out a fire that we already know exists. But that's about all you do.

    Because you don't own the fire truck, have access to the hydrant or the means to open it, or even a fucking rain jacket to hold the hose you don't possess.

    Nothing but a big wind coming from an empty cave. You haven't or wont ever solve a real problem in your collective lives.
    and they certainly won't attract people to their cause by being arrogant, demeaning, divisive and self righteous....

    sad thing is I like Ron Paul...just not the constant in your face thread jacking tactics..
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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by zulater View Post
    The smoke alarm doesn't put out the fire now does it? We're happy that you can point out a fire that we already know exists. But that's about all you do. Because you don't own the fire truck, have access to the hydrant or the means to open it, or even a fucking rain jacket to hold the hose you don't possess.

    Nothing but a big wind coming from an empty cave. You haven't or wont ever solve a real problem in your collective lives.
    OTOH, you're the one that's smoking in bed by voting for liars, aren't you? Why are you mad at me for telling you that smoking in bed is dumb? Especially when you know I'm right? You're mad at me because I'm telling you something you know to be true and you can't argue otherwise. You see that as 'arrogant', but your anger is directed at the wrong guy. The day I vote for people like Bush/ Obama/ Romney is the day you get to blame the messes they make on me.
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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlash27 View Post
    OTOH, you're the one that's smoking in bed by voting for liars, aren't you? Why are you mad at me for telling you that smoking in bed is dumb? Especially when you know I'm right? You're mad at me because I'm telling you something you know to be true and you can't argue otherwise. You see that as 'arrogant', but your anger is directed at the wrong guy. The day I vote for people like Bush/ Obama/ Romney is the day you get to blame the messes they make on me.
    I'm not mad at your type.You merely annoy me. You have to have substance or significance to get me mad. Ron Paul and Occupy people are one and the same, they offer platitudes and slogans but never practical solutions that address real issues in a way that would ever gain traction with an existing plurality.
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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    What the Hell does Ron Paul have to do with anything? Why does his name keep appearing in these threads? He's completely irrelevant, and this is way off-topic. This thread is about Obama continually abusing his power, and continually doing end-around's on the limits of it set forth in the constitution.

    Maybe it's time for a sub-forum on Ron Paul...it will have one poster in it, reading and responding to himself...
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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Just to put an exclamation point on this, a nice article on how yet AGAIN here is Obama saying one thing, and doing another...the exact same thing was evil when Bush did it, but is somehow now a good and saintly thing when he does it. I see no mention of Ron Paul in this article...there's a good reason for that.

    http://www.ohio.com/news/politics/ob...ainst-1.316058

    Obama asserts presidential powers he once spoke out against

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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by zulater View Post
    I'm not mad at your type.You merely annoy me. You have to have substance or significance to get me mad. Ron Paul and Occupy people are one and the same, they offer platitudes and slogans but never practical solutions that address real issues in a way that would ever gain traction with an existing plurality.
    And it's funny, 'cuz you compare me to the occupy people and then turn around and declare that the government is capable of offering "practical solutions" *in the very same sentence*. Why, just look at all the "practical solutions" we've gotten from them over the last 20 years! The only times they didn't make things worse is when they decided to stop meddling.
    Conservatives understand this. It's liberals (such as the occupy folks) who don't. That begs the question: What's your deal?

    Rather than being mad (or annoyed... whatever) at me, you might want to figure out why you feel that way. I'm pretty sure there's no way to tell you that you screwed up and are still screwing up without you getting at least a little annoyed, so it's not like I can fix that for you.
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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by suitanim View Post
    What the Hell does Ron Paul have to do with anything? Why does his name keep appearing in these threads? He's completely irrelevant, and this is way off-topic. This thread is about Obama continually abusing his power, and continually doing end-around's on the limits of it set forth in the constitution.

    Maybe it's time for a sub-forum on Ron Paul...it will have one poster in it, reading and responding to himself...
    I agree. Who is it that keeps bringing up Paul, anyway? *crickets*
    All I said is that if you're going to insist on voting for these liars, you deserve all the lies you get. These folks can't help but agree, but they're so used to being lied to that they get "annoyed" at whoever tells them the truth.

    [edit] After review, the guys you need to take this complaint to are GBMelBlount and zulater. Nobody else is even mentioning the guy in passing other than to say the same thing you are. [/edit]
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    Re: This is what a dictator does: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

    Quote Originally Posted by suitanim View Post
    Actually, this "Bu-bu-but they're all liars" is just more of the same diversionary tactic. There's more going on here than just these simple black-and-white catch-all's....

    That's more of less what I'm saying when I'm comparing the Occupy and Ron Paul people, and how it applies to this thread. Essentially as demonstrated once again in this thread that's their answer to everything.


    I'll leave it at that.
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    Re: “This is what a dictator does”: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

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    They're great at telling everyone else what they're doing wrong. But if you ask them for a workable solution that actually could gain traction with any sort of existing or plausible plurality you get either bullshit or crickets.
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    Re: This is what a dictator does: Obama enacts DREAM Act without vote or exec order

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