Clowney does it again!

[Shoes]

No way would I take this guy.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...eeding-ticket/

[ALLD]

He should try NASCAR instead of the NFL.

[GBMelBlount]

On the positive side he was only ticketed at 84 mph this time instead of 110.

He is obviously showing restraint.

[Hindes204]

Everybody speeds, I would hardly take this as a major character flaw

[Dwinsgames]

once is one thing .... twice in a month that far over the speed limit is a pattern

throw in the fact that he only plays when he wants to and needs motivation to do so , then you have a combination of red flags that if I am a GM it takes him off my draft board because early round picks are to valuable to waist on a guy who is not as committed as I am to winning

[salamander]

I hope this guy is FAR away from the Steelers radar.

[Shoes]

Everybody speeds, I would hardly take this as a major character flaw

I got 1 speeding ticket in 44 years of driving all over the world. The flaw is the void between the ears…... with a little NFL money and a few good games watch what happens to this *character*.

once is one thing .... twice in a month that far over the speed limit is a pattern

throw in the fact that he only plays when he wants to and needs motivation to do so , then you have a combination of red flags that if I am a GM it takes him off my draft board because early round picks are to valuable to waist on a guy who is not as committed as I am to winning

+1 to this.

[Hindes204]

I agree with the lack of motivation on the field, that's the reason I don't want him. These speeding tickets have no bearing on my decision though. Getting a speeding ticket doesn't make you stupid, it just means you like to take risks.

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I rented a corvette before, and you're damn right I got that thing up to well over 100

[Shoes]

I agree with the lack of motivation on the field, that's the reason I don't want him. These speeding tickets have no bearing on my decision though. Getting a speeding ticket doesn't make you stupid, it just means you like to take risks.

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I rented a corvette before, and you're damn right I got that thing up to well over 100

I bought a new one in 1974 for $7800 and it rode like an old truck….In fact I think they still do.

[fansince'76]

Well, at least he didn't get busted with a half pound (or more) of weed, which is how most of these kinds of stops wind up...

Clowney previously was cited for driving 110 miles per hour, 40 mph above the posted limit.

The good news is he may not get any more tickets in the near future. Because he was exceeding the speed limit by more than 25 miles per hour on both occasions, he faces a maximum point penalty of six for each of the events, which could trigger a suspension of his license by putting him at 12 points.

Uh, yeah, and the primary reason this kid keeps getting nailed for (massively) excessive speeding is because he's an entitled shithead who is well aware that he's going to be essentially cashing in a lottery ticket in about four months. I seriously doubt a "little" formality like a suspended license is going to stop him from driving.

Clowney's new theme song:

[Seven]

Everybody speeds, I would hardly take this as a major character flaw

Interesting point. When I first considered your post, I agreed with it. However, 84 in a 55 and 110 in a 70 is beyond reasonable, in my opinion.

[Dwinsgames]

Well, at least he didn't get busted with a half pound (or more) of weed, which is how most of these kinds of stops wind up...



Uh, yeah, and the primary reason this kid keeps getting nailed for (massively) excessive speeding is because he's an entitled shithead who is well aware that he's going to be essentially cashing in a lottery ticket in about four months. I seriously doubt a "little" formality like a suspended license is going to stop him from driving.

Clowney's new theme song:

nice its even the best version too Commander Cody

[SteelerFanInStl]

I bought a new one in 1974 for $7800 and it rode like an old truck….In fact I think they still do.

Actually recent and new Corvettes ride very nice. You must not have ridden in one made in the past 20 years. I owned an '00, '01 and '04 and they were my daily drivers for about 6 years. It's a fantastic car for a road trip or for daily driving.

[GBMelBlount]

I guess it's all relative.

[Shoes]

Actually recent and new Corvettes ride very nice. You must not have ridden in one made in the past 20 years. I owned an '00, '01 and '04 and they were my daily drivers for about 6 years. It's a fantastic car for a road trip or for daily driving.

You are correct '74 and older. I'm sure the newer models ride much nicer. Heck I bought a new Wrangler this past summer and couldn't believe I was in a Jeep.

[fansince'76]

I bought a new one in 1974 for $7800 and it rode like an old truck….In fact I think they still do.

Wish they cost that much now.

[Dwinsgames]

Interesting point. When I first considered your post, I agreed with it. However, 84 in a 55 and 110 in a 70 is beyond reasonable, in my opinion.

wasnt it 110 in a 40 ?

either way though , still over the top and not something I want form a draft pick esp a high round guy

* just checked it was 110 in a 70 ...still

[Hindes204]

wasnt it 110 in a 40 ?

either way though , still over the top and not something I want form a draft pick esp a high round guy

* just checked it was 110 in a 70 ...still

Ive gone 110 on the highway before, I guess I don't see it as a big of a deal as everyone else

[Dwinsgames]

Ive gone 110 on the highway before, I guess I don't see it as a big of a deal as everyone else

so have I , but I would not want to invest in someone that does , draft picks are investments from my perspective and high draft picks are large investments you put a premium on and preferably are spent on safe investments not risky ones ( save the risky ones for penny stocks )

[Shoes]

Wish they cost that much now.

Me too, brother. The base model in `74 was about $6000, I believe. I don't even want to think about the `50 &`60 models. Gas was about 40 cents a gallon.

[fansince'76]

Me too, brother. The base model in `74 was about $6000, I believe. I don't even want to think about the `50 &`60 models. Gas was about 40 cents a gallon.

Which was about 2-3 times as much as a "regular" car at the time, wasn't it? As I was 6 years old in '74, I wasn't pricing cars too often.

It's amazing how much prices have increased for everything.

[Texasteel]

so have I , but I would not wantto invest in someone that does , draft picks are investments from my perspective and high draft picks are large investments you put a premium on and preferably are spent on safe investments not risky ones ( save the risky ones for penny stocks )

I agree, To be truthful, I think I am more concerned about his work ethics, and the fact that he can vanish from some games. I think his interview are going to extremely important. Can he convince someone that he is willing to put forth the effort to be a good pro player. I also think it may come down to how far he will fall in the draft, if he falls at all. The lower the pick the less risk he would be, or the lest costly the risk would be.

[Dwinsgames]

I agree, To be truthful, I think I am more concerned about his work ethics, and the fact that he can vanish from some games. I think his interview are going to extremely important. Can he convince someone that he is willing to put forth the effort to be a good pro player. I also think it may come down to how far he will fall in the draft, if he falls at all. The lower the pick the less risk he would be, or the lest costly the risk would be.

lets face it he is a bad combine and a train wreck interview away from Burficting himself at this point ... Burfict has redeemed himself and proven to be a good football player but how much money did it cost him to learn that lesson from first round lock to UDFA the year he was selected is probably something to the tune of 20-50 million ( 1 year before rookie wage scales came into play) that is a HUGE price to pay .... lessons cost money , good ones cost lots as Tony Beets would say

[Shoes]

Which was about 2-3 times as much as a "regular" car at the time, wasn't it? As I was 6 years old in '74, I wasn't pricing cars too often.

It's amazing how much prices have increased for everything.

It was, I can remember looking at Jeep Cj's at Corwin Jeep in Hickory Pa. They were between 2-3K and pretty bare. Incidentally, Corwin Jeep was the oldest Jeep dealer in the nation when it was closed down by Chrysler in 2009. Just over the Hickory hills lies Fort Cherry and Marvin Lewis.

http://www.edmunds.com/autoobserver-...ep-dealer.html

[fansince'76]

It was, I can remember looking at Jeep Cj's at Corwin Jeep in Hickory Pa. They were between 2-3K and pretty bare. Incidentally, Corwin Jeep was the oldest Jeep dealer in the nation when it was closed down by Chrysler in 2009. Just over the Hickory hills lies Fort Cherry and Marvin Lewis.

http://www.edmunds.com/autoobserver-...ep-dealer.html

It's a bummer that it was closed for that reason.

[Texasteel]

lets face it he is a bad combine and a train wreck interview away from Burficting himself at this point ... Burfict has redeemed himself and proven to be a good football player but how much money did it cost him to Burficthat lesson from first round lock to UDFA the year he was selected is probably something to the tune of 20-50 million ( 1 year before rookie wage scales came into play) that is a HUGE price to pay .... lessons cost money , good ones cost lots as Tony Beets would say

Burfict,,,,, That is an interesting name right now. I have often wondered if he would be the player he is now if he had no fallen completely out of the draft.

[Chidi29]

This assumes his maturity level now will be the same in five years. Ideally, unlikely (and everyone thinks they're the team that can change a guy) and it will change.

Plus, he's a rock star in college. He'll still be a big name in the NFL but he'll learn (again, ideally) quickly it's an entirely different landscape. You still have to earn everything.

And above all, when you're that good, exceptations are made.

[steeldawg]

They guy is a monster I don't really care about his driving record, I just care if he can get to the qb. Whats next, are we going to pull his credit report?

[Texasteel]

They guy is a monster I don't really care about his driving record, I just care if he can get to the qb. Whats next, are we going to pull his credit report?

It go's further that a couple of speeding tickets bud. Still the teams will weigh everything, talk to him, watch him in the post season, including the combines, and make up their own minds. If he does drop, I doubt if he drops to far. He's a heck of a player when he wants to play.

[Dwinsgames]

They guy is a monster I don't really care about his driving record, I just care if he can get to the qb. Whats next, are we going to pull his credit report?

its not like we are talking parking tickets here ... it is risky behavior , behavior that you must consider if it has the ability of making him unavailable to your organization , driving over 100mph could very well put him in the ground .... how well can he rush the passer from the graveyard ?

RISK is a large part in draft evaluation from where I sit ...

you do not want to risk high draft picks on guys who potentially may never play a down and with his behavior off the field ....

would you feel the same way if the guy had successfully played russian roulette but only twice thus far that you know about but twice in a month ???

driving over 100 mph is liken to russian roulette you are only going to get away with it so many times before something goes dreadfully wrong .....

what is worse driving 100+ mph or driving drunk and going 10 under the speed limit ? equally bad IMO because neither will permit you to act in time to an emergency situation and get your car stopped in a safe manner without causing injury to you or others in the process ...

I would not draft a guy who got 2 DUI's in a months time , so why would I draft a guy driving far in excess of the speed limit during that same time frame .... its dangerous to my investment as well as anyone around them including themselves