all things being equal , probably not ....Originally Posted by Shoes
but so much lingers on Jones medical reports and it is always good to have a backup plan ...
when we drafted Timmons he was not the target Patrick Willis was , Timmons has not been a bad " backup plan " albeit no Willis production wise
I see Moores name mixed with the Steelers more and more, and I really don't know how I feel about it. I think,,,,,,,,, unsure. I've watched Moore and seen tapes on him and it looked to me that most if not all of his highlights come from the DE position, at 250 his isn't going to play DE for us. He has not looked good since the season ended. He had a bad combine, I know, I know, the 40 time can be over blown at times, but he was half a tick away for 5 seconds. Now I am hearing that he had a real bad pro-day.
I've just seen kids before that did a good job in school, but their game did not translate into the pros well. If we take him, all well and good, I hope he makes me look like a fool, but here and now, I'm just not sure I want him at 17.
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You mean...He's not Australian?
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Stumbled across this prospect. I think he is what we all hoped Curtis Brown might have been. CB/FS prospect with some toughness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_BEzqcfdHo
6'0 195" 4.44 forty Watch him step up and tackle. I cant tell you how sick I am of seeing CB's tackle like Deion Sanders.
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Is there a chance we select the first RB taken in the draft with our 2nd Rd pick, if so Giovani Bernard looks like a fit.
"It comes with the Territory" - Floyd 'Money' Mayweather
http://walterfootball.com/proday.php#ksu
Kansas State Pro Day Notes: Arthur Brown had a fantastic workout at his Pro Day. He'll probably be chosen late in the first round. Tony Pauline reported that the Steelers and Jaguars showed tons of interest.
3/13/13 - Arthur Brown, rSr/2013, Kansas State, 6-0, 241 (DS#4 OLB)
2013 Kansas State Pro Day: After missing the Senior Bowl and most of the drills at the combine due to a shoulder injury, Kansas State linebacker Arthur Brown knew that he had questions to answer at his Pro Day. "I've been preparing for this day for the past month," Brown told NFLDraftScout.com via a telephone interview shortly after his workout, Tuesday. "I was ready."
Brown answered the most important question early on, proving the health of his shoulder by lifting the bar 21 times during the bench press drill. Later, the 6-0, 241-pound linebacker answered any concerns about his straight-line speed, timing between 4.56-4.66 seconds in the 40-yard dash, according to multiple sources in Manhattan. "I honestly don't know what my time was," Brown said. "They didn't tell me that but I felt good and I am confident that the scouts and coaches who were there watching us got a fair evaluation of what I can do."
There were representatives of 24 teams at Kansas State's Pro Day and Brown said among them were linebacker coaches for the Detroit Lions, Jacksonville Jaguars and Pittsburgh Steelers. As a further indication of the interest teams have in the back to back All-Big 12 linebacker, he has six private workouts and three visits lined up already. - Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com
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"It comes with the Territory" - Floyd 'Money' Mayweather
Maybe Florida is the new Texas
03/13/13 - 2013 Florida Pro Day: there were several recognizable faces in the crowd in Gainesville, including Pittsburgh Steelers coach Mike Tomlin and general manager Kevin Colbert- Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com
"It comes with the Territory" - Floyd 'Money' Mayweather
IF Sanders signs with the Pats ( or someone else ) Patterson may end up being our first pick
Steelers like to take WR with at least 3-4 years at the college level, going back to Holmes 06' thru Clemons 2012,
I think Allen, Hopkins, Woods, Patton in that order would be on their board before Patterson
"It comes with the Territory" - Floyd 'Money' Mayweather
if you look closely at the statement i made you will find a frown at the very end ....
I prefer to not even draft in the first round this year ....
but if you really want to look at what the Steeler do when looking at a WR ...
you should also look at the rest of their " MO "
they like guys who are varied in their skill set ... A.r.E , Brown , Sanders , all had punt kick return skills or played another pos. and could run the ball giving them gadget play ability , end around ,reverses etc
love him or hate him one thing Patterson is every time you turn on the tape is a playmaker with the ball in his hands and he can get you touches in a variety of ways and teams must account for him in all situations ...
he has a dynamic about him ... again he is not going to be for everybody ( at least not at first ) but if he continues to develop those skills he could be a difference maker and we need all of those we can get ... you can not teach his athletic ability ... no he is not Julio Jones , nor is he A.J. Green or Megatron ... but he brings a unique blend of talent to the table that would fit Todd Haley to a T ... think about what he tried to do with Dexter McCluster now multiply it 10 fold because this kid has abilities McCluster could only dream of having ... that is why I would not be shocked to see him selected IF Sanders takes a gig elsewhere
As concerned to my personal point of view, I think the teams tanked this year on purpose for a franchise man, they screwed themselves. This is a year of good defense and good role players. As most of the teams need like these.
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Sanders and Brown were 3-4 year guys too just saying
"It comes with the Territory" - Floyd 'Money' Mayweather
please take a moment and see the forest through the trees ... I did not discount your claim , I did however expand to other things they look at ... you ignored that and went to what you wanted to see ...
but ok whatever ...
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NFL Network’s Mike Mayock reported from the Pro Day that Jones ran a 40-yard dash in the 4.9-second range, and that representatives of multiple teams were alarmed that Jones was that slow.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...orgia-pro-day/
“I think a 4.9 is a red flag,” Mayock said. “I talked to a lot of coaches and scouts and they all said the same thing: ‘Wow. A lot slower than we expected.’”
Hopefully that scares off enough teams to land him to number 17. The 40 yard dash isn't everything, as long as he can play football
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Hmm, maybe he WANTS to be a Steeler.
Jones primary responsibility would be rush the passer ... if he has to chase a QB 40 yards he has more issues than the time it takes ...
I honestly did not think he would run a great 40 , I did think it would be faster than 4.9 , that being said what I am more concerned about would be his 10 yard split time ... quick twitch 10 yard burst is what you need to look at for a pass rusher , 3 cone drill is another I like to look at because it shows maneuverability , traffic can be a killer you have to be able to adjust ....
not saying it will not hurt his stock a bit because it combined with an already questionable medical report card will cause a few more teams to take pause when looking at him ....
at the end of the day though you have to trust the tape on the tape he plays fast you have to trust the tape ........ if he is your guy on tape , you got to draft him ... his 40 time will almost never come into play in games because he will be running in the opposite direction of the offence more often than not ... if he is slow everyone he played against is slow because he was faster than most of them with the pads on
he played on Saturdays against a lot of guys who will be playing on Sundays and he did very well against them then , I suspect he will fair well against them in the future as well ... just my 2 cents
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Here's Mayock's take.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-networ...rgia-s-pro-day
he bit us tonight ......
nice call , may be the DROY
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Has Te'o had much playing time this year?
"With love, with patience, and with Faith
....She'll make her way" ~ Natalie Merchant
did not play first 3 games since has logged 11 starts in 11 games
but nowhere near the impact player Alonso has been
Alonso stats
COMB FF INT 137 1 4
Te'o 47 tackles ..........
Thanks D
I get lucky occasionally.
Also nailed Austin Collie in his rookie year.
My call this year is Free Safety -- Tre Boston out of North Carolina
Trying to put together a mock for the other threads. Now that it is holiday season I have more time to post
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I like Boston , have him in a mock here too but personally lean towards Stanley Jean-Baptiste as a S ( instead of his CB spot he currently plays ) think he would be a great player to have to cover some of these pass catching TEs we are now seeing lots of in the league , big physical and fast cover men are not easy to find
looking forward to seeing you mock and insight
Heard tonight that Sheriff has told Iowa that he will be returning to Iowa next year. I think it is likely a smart decision for him, and great for Iowa.
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damn , he may have been our guy too depends on how it all unfolds ( moving this to the 2014 thread via copy paste )
im skimming this thread and im finding a surprising absence of the consideration of Haha Clinton-Dix. Phenomenal fill of a need and great value. Is there something wrong with the kid other than the short-lived suspension?
this is actually last years thread ... but we have not talked about HaHa yet . personally I have a hard time taking him seriously ( its a joke !! )
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