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    Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    “For our efforts to remove the bill's abortion funding, we were called 'deceivers' by President Obama and 'liars' by his allies. Now we know who the true deceivers and liars really are,"

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    Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion Through New High-Risk Insurance Pools
    Wednesday, July 14, 2010
    By Susan Jones, Senior Editor

    (CNSNews.com) - If you want proof that President Obama's Executive Order on taxpayer-funded abortion was a sham, look no further than Pennsylvania, says House Republican Leader John Boehner (Ohio).

    Boehner and other Republicans point to reports that the Health and Human Services Department is giving Pennsylvania $160 million to set up a new high-risk insurance pool that will cover any abortion that is legal in the state.

    "The fact that the high-risk pool insurance program in Pennsylvania will use federal taxpayer dollars to fund abortions is unconscionable," Boehner said in a statement on Tuesday.

    “Just last month at the White House, I asked President Obama to provide the American people with a progress report on the implementation of his Executive Order, which purports to ban taxpayer-funding of abortions. Unfortunately, the President provided no information, and the American people are still waiting for answers."

    President Obama pledged that under his health care plan “no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.”

    In a May 13 letter to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, Boehner asked if her department has provided guidance to the states on how to implement the president’s Executive Order on abortion funding. Boehner also asked Sebelius if the new federal high-risk pools would exclude abortion coverage.

    He says his questions remain unanswered.

    "Millions of Americans care deeply about this aspect of the new law and its implementation, and no progress report is complete without detailed information about it,” Boehner wrote to Sebelius.

    The conservative Family Research Council says the $160 million in taxpayer funds for Pennsylvania is the first known instance of direct federal funding of abortions through the new high-risk insurance pools.

    The abortion funding for pool participants validates the arguments pro-life groups made throughout the health care debate – that taxpayer dollars will fund abortions, said Tom McClusky, senior vice president of the Family Research Council’s political action arm.

    “For our efforts to remove the bill's abortion funding, we were called 'deceivers' by President Obama and 'liars' by his allies. Now we know who the true deceivers and liars really are,’ McClusky said.

    "This action by the Obama Administration also exposes the worthlessness of President Obama's Executive Order that supposedly would prevent federal funding of abortion, but which both sides, including Planned Parenthood, agreed was unenforceable.

    "While the American people deserve an apology from President Obama for his deception, we should only be satisfied when this Pennsylvania abortion funding is rescinded and the health care law repealed.

    McClusky noted that the new health care law also includes $12.5 billion for community health centers, and $6 billion for co-ops, both of which can fund abortions. And some people will use tax credits to help them pay for plans that cover abortion.

    Even before it’s fully implemented, the Democrats’ health care plan “is already being exposed as a high-taxing, poorly thought-out, and taxpayer-funding-of-abortion monstrosity,” McClusky said.

    Republican leader Boehner says House Republicans would codify the Hyde amendment, thus prohibiting all authorized and appropriated federal funds from being used to pay for abortion. Under the Republican plan, any health plan that includes abortion coverage would not receive federal funds.


    "And one more misunderstanding I want to clear up -- under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place."

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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Vincent, I like you. Love your non-wearing jeans ass, but can't these threads be contained within the "official" bash Obama thread??

    It's getting to be too much, to the point that I'm in this section of the forum where I shouldn't be.

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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Economically it is cheaper to publicly fund abortions rather than support unbaffordable pregnancies with public money. Morally, there is a whole set of different circumstances.
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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Has he kept his word about a single thing besides the health care he choked down our throats?
    Get rid of Roger Goodell!

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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Shea View Post
    Vincent, I like you. Love your non-wearing jeans ass, but can't these threads be contained within the "official" bash Obama thread??

    It's getting to be too much, to the point that I'm in this section of the forum where I shouldn't be.

    God, I miss football and hockey.

    Republicans can't read.

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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Stlrs4Life View Post
    Republicans can't read.
    I thought that was the Dem's. You know the ones who vote and pass shit bills before they read them.


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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Yeah, them there Republicans never pass shit bills.

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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    How's that free stuff working out for ya?


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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    this is absurd! there are plenty of taxpayer paid programs in place to support, educate, and medicate all of these unborn children!

    why do you think so many mexicans keep coming over here to populate?

    damn... it feels pretty liberating (please ignore the "liberal" affix) to join the majority and speak my mind.


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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Shea View Post
    Vincent, I like you. Love your non-wearing jeans ass, but can't these threads be contained within the "official" bash Obama thread??

    It's getting to be too much, to the point that I'm in this section of the forum where I shouldn't be.

    God, I miss football and hockey.

    But it's a political topic, and this IS the forum for political topics, aint' it ?
    Stay classy, leftnutz

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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by 7SteelGal43 View Post
    But it's a political topic, and this IS the forum for political topics, aint' it ?


    Yeah - amazing isn't it that there is no whining and bitching about all of the anti-GOP threads being started around here by the Lib sheeple.






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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by HometownGal View Post


    Yeah - amazing isn't it that there is no whining and bitching about all of the anti-GOP threads being started around here by the Lib sheeple.
    What, all three of them??

    On average, there seems to be three threads started here every day on Obama.

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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Shea View Post
    What, all three of them??

    On average, there seems to be three threads started here every day on Obama.
    Um, there have been FOUR anti-GOP threads started in the last 23 hours. If you had actually read through the threads in this forum, you would have known that.








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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Terminator View Post
    Um, there have been FOUR anti-GOP threads started in the last 23 hours. If you had actually read through the threads in this forum, you would have known that.
    In addition, it seems that almost every anti-Obaaaaaaaama thread is hijacked into a bu, bu, bu Bush/GOP thread.






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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Terminator View Post
    Um, there have been FOUR anti-GOP threads started in the last 23 hours. If you had actually read through the threads in this forum, you would have known that.
    Sorry, I missed one, four it is - doesn't change my point at all.

    Four is peanuts around here in the land of let's make a thread on all things Obama.

    Did anyone catch that zit on his forehead in his last press conference?? And if so why wasn't a thread about it started? Some of you are slipping!

    And Stlrs4Life, doesn't post much and only pops in from time to time. Otherwise, there we be none of these threads that seem to now be "invading" the board. (C'mon! )

    Quote Originally Posted by HometownGal View Post
    In addition, it seems that almost every anti-Obaaaaaaaama thread is hijacked into a bu, bu, bu Bush/GOP thread.
    That's generalizing.

    And I think people are just wanting others to recognize what Bush himself did, and the mess he handed off to Obama.

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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Shea View Post
    Sorry, I missed one, four it is - doesn't change my point at all.

    Four is peanuts around here in the land of let's make a thread on all things Obama.

    Did anyone catch that zit on his forehead in his last press conference?? And if so why wasn't a thread about it started? Some of you are slipping!

    And Stlrs4Life, doesn't post much and only pops in from time to time. Otherwise, there we be none of these threads that seem to now be "invading" the board. (C'mon! )
    What do you want us to do about it? Ban all talk about Obama? Plus, last I checked, nobody said anything about all of the anti-GOP threads that have popped up until...guess when?

    Think about it.

    That's generalizing.

    And I think people are just wanting others to recognize what Bush himself did, and the mess he handed off to Obama.
    Most people DO recognize the things that Bush did. Just because they aren't falling all over themselves pointing them out doesn't mean that they don't.








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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Shea View Post
    That's generalizing.
    No it is not. It's the plain truth.

    And I think people are just wanting others to recognize what Bush himself did, and the mess he handed off to Obama.
    Again - nein. Bush hasn't been the POTUS for almost 19 months now and the bu, bu, bu Bush bullshit is not just getting redundant, but is moot. Bush took his lumps while he was in office for his fubars and now that Obaaaaaaama is making matters even worse than they were - he's going to have to take his lumps too.

    On a side note, what totally busts my bra straps is that Obaaaaama has adopted a lot of the same programs and ideas that he and his sheeple abhored Bush for during the election. That is why we GOP'ers strongly believe that this administration reeks of hypocrisy and utter bullshit and don't hesitate to call him (and his followers) on it.






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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    I blame Bush on this thread !!

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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by venom View Post
    I blame Bush on this thread !!


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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Terminator View Post
    What do you want us to do about it? Ban all talk about Obama?
    Never said anything at all about banning talk on Obama.

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Terminator View Post
    Plus, last I checked, nobody said anything about all of the anti-GOP threads that have popped up until...guess when?

    Think about it.
    Ok, just thought about it. It was HTG.

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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Shea View Post
    I hate politics. I acknowledge that Obama isn't clearing the fences while at bat but please, HTG, quit referring to the Democratic party that are his followers as sheeple. It's insulting and unnecessary.
    Oh - let me get this straight. It's A-OK for Stlrs4Life and Tony (more so Stlrs4Life) to throw out insults at us and call us "Repugnicons", "Nazicons" and all of the other little "terms of endearment" which we've been called over the years. Really? I think not.






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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    why do a few anti GOP thread irritate people so badly? this board is in desperate need of some balance and if we keep up the pace of 4 threads in 23 hours we may actually achieve that balance in about 6 months.

    that is a good thing.

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    you called us sheeple first and its a general term not aimed at you personally.

    in other words you guys started it.

    "ribrublicans"

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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by tony hipchest View Post
    you called us sheeple first and its a general term not aimed at you personally.

    in other words you guys started it.

    "ribrublicans"
    That is simply NOT true. Stlrs4Life called GOP'ers "Nazicons", as well as other insulting names for years over at SF.






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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Stlrs4Life View Post
    Republicans can't read.





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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    That is simply NOT true. Stlrs4Life called GOP'ers "Nazicons", as well as other insulting names for years over at SF.
    I never understood the concept of being called a name and therefore finding justification in calling a name back.

    It's a faulty, immature practice.

    How about taking the high road?

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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by tony hipchest View Post
    why do a few anti GOP thread irritate people so badly? this board is in desperate need of some balance and if we keep up the pace of 4 threads in 23 hours we may actually achieve that balance in about 6 months.

    that is a good thing.
    The threads themselves don't bother me in the least, as they generate good discussion for the most part. I can also add that I've learned a few things from others' voicing their opinions on both sides of the fence.

    What burns my ass, though, is the hypocrisy in whining and bitching about the Obaaaama bashing threads and turning a blind eye to the bash Bush/GOP threads.






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    Quote Originally Posted by HometownGal View Post
    That is simply NOT true. Stlrs4Life called GOP'ers "Nazicons", as well as other insulting names for years over at SF.
    i'll have to go do a search for verification but i was a member there since 2005 and there was practically no political discussion (and definitely no infighting) until obama threw his hat in the ring for a presidential run.

    we should all hold our heads high that peoples hatred of him brought out the best in all of us.

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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Shea View Post
    I never understood the concept of being called a name and therefore finding justification in calling a name back.

    It's a faulty, immature practice.

    How about taking the high road?
    It's called defending yourself which I didn't know was a crime for God's sake.

    How about you taking your own advice?






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    Re: Obama Administration Approves First Direct Taxpayer Funding of Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by HometownGal View Post

    What burns my ass, though, is the hypocrisy in whining and bitching about the Obaaaama bashing threads and turning a blind eye to the bash Bush/GOP threads.
    well to be fair, venom starts a brand new "make fun of obama, democrats, rachel maddow, post a funny picture" thread every day.

    a blind eye has been turned to that even though we already have an "official" thread to collect the garbage.

    also we arent supposed to blame bush but watch the other side of the aisle blame the media w/o end?

    bu..bu..bu..media.

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