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    If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    I would keep the pick that was given to us. And trade our 23rd for more picks in the future and this draft . We could solidify a lot of positions...

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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Best player available that fits a general need - for both picks.


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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShutDown24 View Post
    Best player available that fits a general need - for both picks.
    Brilliant!
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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by GBMelBlount View Post
    Brilliant!
    Well, I don't know what else to say. I'm not a big fan of gamesmanship on draft day. I'd prefer to just line up the picks and go if I were running a team. There's something to be said for going after value, but I feel like most draft-day trades end up being executed with clouded judgement.


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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    If we had two first round picks, I'd love for the Steelers to draft a guard and tackle.

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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Best player available that fills a need, as long as it's not a reach.

    At #24, I would want to take Hightower, the ILB from Alabama. If he's there, we have to take him off the board. This guy was born to be a Steelers linebacker. We just cut Farrior, a guy who has been starting for us since 2002. Right now, the guy set to start next to Timmons is Larry Foote. That's only acceptable if the starter is injured, IMHO. Foote used to be a starter, but not anymore. Heck, he can start the season while Hightower gets acclimated to the NFL, but I would expect Hightower to be the starter by week six.

    I am going to guess the team that would be taking Wallace away would be either the 49ers or the Patriots....so we'd have either the 30th or 31st pick. If Kevin Zeitler or Peter Konz of Wisconsin are there, I would draft one of them to play guard. Konz would also be the immediate backup to Pouncey.

    Then, as long as he's there when we pick in the second round, I would draft Alameda Ta'amu the DT out of Washington. I know he's a third round grade, but he wouldn't be there when we pick in the 3rd round most likely and he wouldn't be a reach with how late our pick is and the fact that we need a guy who can legitimately play the nosetackle position with Hampton's knee injury and the fact that after this season he's likely gone. I would rather draft Ta'amu a bit earlier than expected and let him sit and learn behind Hampton than draft a guy next season and start a rookie at the lynchpin position of our defense.

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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigNastyDefense View Post

    At #24, I would want to take Hightower, the ILB from Alabama. If he's there, we have to take him off the board. This guy was born to be a Steelers linebacker. We just cut Farrior, a guy who has been starting for us since 2002. Right now, the guy set to start next to Timmons is Larry Foote. That's only acceptable if the starter is injured, IMHO. Foote used to be a starter, but not anymore. Heck, he can start the season while Hightower gets acclimated to the NFL, but I would expect Hightower to be the starter by week six.

    I am going to guess the team that would be taking Wallace away would be either the 49ers or the Patriots....so we'd have either the 30th or 31st pick. If Kevin Zeitler or Peter Konz of Wisconsin are there, I would draft one of them to play guard. Konz would also be the immediate backup to Pouncey.
    I like it!

    I''m not convinced Hightower should be our 1st round pick since we have so much invested in our linebackers already, but with two first round picks we could certainly pick him AND a tackle/guard

    either that, or trade up for a chance at DeCastro
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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Duke View Post
    I like it!

    I''m not convinced Hightower should be our 1st round pick since we have so much invested in our linebackers already, but with two first round picks we could certainly pick him AND a tackle/guard

    either that, or trade up for a chance at DeCastro
    This is my thought as well.

    We have arguably the best linebacking corps in the nfl while our offensive line is extremely mediocre.

    So putting it in that context I feel the need on the two lines is more pressing.

    While I realize there is a marked droppoff at ILB after Hightower it sounds as though there may be some good converts (like we did with timmons I believe) if we wait until the 2nd or 3rd round.
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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Apparently the Patriots are about to sign Brandon Lloyd.

    I think it might be time for us to stop worrying about Wallace leaving.


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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShutDown24 View Post
    Apparently the Patriots are about to sign Brandon Lloyd.

    I think it might be time for us to stop worrying about Wallace leaving.
    The only other threat would the broncos if he signed Peyton Manning.

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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShutDown24 View Post
    Best player available that fits a general need - for both picks.
    This.


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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShutDown24 View Post
    Apparently the Patriots are about to sign Brandon Lloyd.

    I think it might be time for us to stop worrying about Wallace leaving.
    Why would that be? You think San Francisco is satisfied with the fact the Randy Moss and Michael Crabtree are their receiving corp?


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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Why would that be? You think San Francisco is satisfied with the fact the Randy Moss and Michael Crabtree are their receiving corp?
    No, because San Fran is in talks with Brandon Lloyd and Mario Manningham, a restricted free agent hasn't been snagged from his home team since 2006, and you're brainwashed by the media like most of the rest of the world
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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    No, because San Fran is in talks with Brandon Lloyd and Mario Manningham, a restricted free agent hasn't been snagged from his home team since 2006, and you're brainwashed by the media like most of the rest of the world
    Lloyd is about to sign with the Pats and Manningham and the 9'ers deal fell through.

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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    And honestly I don't really care if we lose Wallace, we can't afford him anyways and I think Brown is a more complete reciever. I would rather pay him.

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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Clearing up RFA compensation, new NFL documents says "its own [draft pick] or better." Example, Bengals would be #17, Patriots #27, etc

    https://twitter.com/#!/nfldraftscout...32818208542720

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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Why would that be? You think San Francisco is satisfied with the fact the Randy Moss and Michael Crabtree are their receiving corp?
    I don't see any threats for Wallace remaining other than maybe, as you say, the 49ers - but I don't think they are really all that interested. Not much reasoning behind that other than gut feeling.

    I could see the Bengals contemplating it, but are they really going to give up the 17th overall pick? Pretty steep. And Green is already an elite verticle threat.

    I just don't see it. Add to that the fact that restricted free agents never get signed away and I'd bet the mortgage right now that Wallace is a Steeler next year.


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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Maybe the Broncos will make an offer to wallace, if they have Peyton...

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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by 43Hitman View Post
    And honestly I don't really care if we lose Wallace, we can't afford him anyways and I think Brown is a more complete reciever. I would rather pay him.
    This^... As much as I like Wallace, the team will be fine with or without!

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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by O'Malley View Post
    This^... As much as I like Wallace, the team will be fine with or without!
    Ya maybe tomlin wasn't kidding when he called him a one trick pony

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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Steeler View Post
    Ya maybe tomlin wasn't kidding when he called him a one trick pony
    Might be true... Brown IMO has come around as a more complete receiver.. But Arians may have had something to do with that using Mike as a deep threat/decoy... I would love to see Mike as a Steeler and come full circle and become a complete receiver.. But IMO no receiver is worth what others are getting paid.. 10 million a season is to much to put in to a receiver.. That said I do hope they come to a deal.. Just one both sides can agree on and one that doesn't effect the team in cap space and ego.

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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by 43Hitman View Post
    Lloyd is about to sign with the Pats and Manningham and the 9'ers deal fell through.
    he just left to visit the rams, doesnt mean it fell through at all. he's the most sought after WR in free agency other than brandon lloyd, he's going to weigh his options
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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    No, because San Fran is in talks with Brandon Lloyd and Mario Manningham, a restricted free agent hasn't been snagged from his home team since 2006, and you're brainwashed by the media like most of the rest of the world
    And Brandon Lloyd and/or Mario Manningham is a number one receiver? Arguably not even a #2...lol. Lloyd is negotiating with the Pats right now/Manningham left San Fran and is on his way to the Rams. Just because 2006 was the last time a RFA left a team doesn't mean it can't happen. All I'm saying is if someone wants Wallace. He's more or less theirs...


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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    he just left to visit the rams, doesnt mean it fell through at all. he's the most sought after WR in free agency other than brandon lloyd, he's going to weigh his options
    Manningham weighing his options. Because he's the Peyton Manning of WRs? At this point in free agency, if players leave towns without contracts, they are most likely not signing with that team. That's just the facts. More times than not, if a deal doesn;t happen on a visit, it's not happening later. Just like RFA's never sign with new teams...since 2006...lol.


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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    If Wallace goes, use the 2 first round picks to pickup an ILB and a G. Depends who is available and what extra pick we get.

    Better yet, with the higher first rounder, take BPA. With the second pick, take best available G or ILB.

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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    And Brandon Lloyd and/or Mario Manningham is a number one receiver? Arguably not even a #2...lol. Lloyd is negotiating with the Pats right now/Manningham left San Fran and is on his way to the Rams. Just because 2006 was the last time a RFA left a team doesn't mean it can't happen. All I'm saying is if someone wants Wallace. He's more or less theirs...
    of course they are! Lloyd was an All-Pro receiver just a year ago, and still managed to make his insane body control catches with the Rams anemic offense. Manningham has been a staple all-around stalwart since Plaxico left; im assuming you arent aware that theres a 2nd steve smith in the league. Despite the clamoring of praise for the giants' receiving corp this season, they've had a great one for years now, before the arrival of nicks and cruz. Manningham isnt some product leeching off better. He was very productive before nicks and cruz. It started up top with guess who? If someone wanted Wallace so bad, why hasnt anyone heard anything active about the situation yet? Even the rumor-mongering sources like PFT, NBC, rotoworld, and la canfora havent come up with anything yet .

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    Manningham weighing his options. Because he's the Peyton Manning of WRs? At this point in free agency, if players leave towns without contracts, they are most likely not signing with that team. That's just the facts. More times than not, if a deal doesn;t happen on a visit, it's not happening later. Just like RFA's never sign with new teams...since 2006...lol.
    No, because the only UFA wide receiver that's going to garner a bigger market value than him is Brandon Lloyd. It's a "fact" that a highly sought after player isnt going to sign with a team if he travels to visit another team? According to your next sentence, that's not a "fact" anymore, it's just a "more times than not" situation. So which one is it? Why would you suggest a restricted free agent will never sign with a new team? How silly
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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    So hard to say who's going to drop to our pick. My general opinion is you trade away the really high picks that won't get you talent you need (e.g. top ten in 1st round if there were no good OTs available) to teams that really want them. Otherwise, you take the most talented players because at the lower levels there isn't going to be a wide a difference in talent.

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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    of course they are! Lloyd was an All-Pro receiver just a year ago, and still managed to make his insane body control catches with the Rams anemic offense. Manningham has been a staple all-around stalwart since Plaxico left; im assuming you arent aware that theres a 2nd steve smith in the league. Despite the clamoring of praise for the giants' receiving corp this season, they've had a great one for years now, before the arrival of nicks and cruz. Manningham isnt some product leeching off better. He was very productive before nicks and cruz. It started up top with guess who? If someone wanted Wallace so bad, why hasnt anyone heard anything active about the situation yet? Even the rumor-mongering sources like PFT, NBC, rotoworld, and la canfora havent come up with anything yet .
    No they aren't...lol. FAR FAR FAR from #1 talent. Far from it. He's never put close to #1 numbers up...lol. Come on. The reason no one has stepped up for Wallace is because it takes up to a week to do so. If a team made an offer early on in Free Agency, their money would be tied up for up to a week while the Steelers decided to match or not. In turn, it would become difficult for a team to address other areas on the team not knowing what money would be available. As history shows, RFA's usually begin getting their "offers" after the dust settles. It's the nature of the beast.



    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Ward 86 View Post
    No, because the only UFA wide receiver that's going to garner a bigger market value than him is Brandon Lloyd. It's a "fact" that a highly sought after player isnt going to sign with a team if he travels to visit another team? According to your next sentence, that's not a "fact" anymore, it's just a "more times than not" situation. So which one is it? Why would you suggest a restricted free agent will never sign with a new team? How silly
    http://nfltraderumors.co/rams-workin...o-mannhingham/

    http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...:on:twit:young

    Wonder why'd they be negotiating with these teams...seeing that they both visited San Fran earlier...lol. I said that's the "facts" not a "fact." History (facts) shows that it happens more times than not. Sorry, I'll spell it out next time. WHy wouldn't I suggewst a RFA not sign with another team? It's everyone's reason why there's no chance he will leave this season...all I'm saying is there is a possibility and it would be rather easy for a team to do it, given the Steelers cap situation, if a team really wanted him.

    I'd be more than happy if he stayed...don't get me wrong. I'm just not ruling it out that a team will create a contract that the Steelers can't match. Like some people are...


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    Re: If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

    So, no Wallace with the patriots.

    My worst nightmare will not happen.

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