If Mike Wallace signs elsewhere...What would you do with an extra 1st round pick?

[86WARD]

Welker - RFA
Lloyd and Gonzalez added today.

Hopefully this eliminates the Pats altogether. They weren't really who I was worried about. San Francisco is my worry...

[Count Steeler]

So, no Wallace with the patriots.

My worst nightmare will not happen.

At least not this year.

[86WARD]

Waiting to snag Antonio next year?!?

[polamalubeast]

Welker - RFA
Lloyd and Gonzalez added today.

Hopefully this eliminates the Pats altogether. They weren't really who I was worried about. San Francisco is my worry...

it would be less painful if this is the 49ers.it would have been a big nightmare to see Wallace with the patriots.

The Broncos may be a threat if they have Manning, but I think that Wallace will remain with the Steelers.

[Count Steeler]

Waiting to snag Antonio next year?!?

If Wallace only signs for 1 year, we have Brown, Sanders and Wallace up for new contracts next year. Good problem for this coming season, because they will all play hungry. Potentially bad problem, depending where the cap lands and how much money the Steelers want to commit to one position. Wallace will be the UFA, so my guess is he walks next year, unless the Steelers lock him up. If they lock up Wallace, how much are they going to pay Brown and Sanders. My guess is that at least 1 of the 3 don't make it to 2013.

[86WARD]

Denver may not have the cash after signing Manning...neither may the Niners if they get him...

[polamalubeast]

Denver may not have the cash after signing Manning...neither may the Niners if they get him...

The Broncos have 40 million under the cap right now

[polamalubeast]

At least not this year.

Let's start with the 2012 season!

Otherwise, the Steelers can get along with a long-term contract or put the TAG on Wallace...The Steelers have said that was a big priority of signed Wallace.

[86WARD]

Yeah of that's the case...they probably could, but it would depend on the Manning deal and how it's broken down. Wallace will be at least $10+M in the first year to ensure the Steelers can't match. Then they need money for draft picks and anything else they need to address...so they probably could if Manning's deal is Bronco friendly.

[polamalubeast]

The only team I see making an offer to Wallace, these are the broncos if they have Manning.

[86WARD]

If Wallace only signs for 1 year, we have Brown, Sanders and Wallace up for new contracts next year. Good problem for this coming season, because they will all play hungry. Potentially bad problem, depending where the cap lands and how much money the Steelers want to commit to one position. Wallace will be the UFA, so my guess is he walks next year, unless the Steelers lock him up. If they lock up Wallace, how much are they going to pay Brown and Sanders. My guess is that at least 1 of the 3 don't make it to 2013.

That's the nightmare I'm afraid of. I think ultimately, you'll be able to keep two of the three. If you pay crazy money to Wallace, you're going to have to turn around and do the same to Brown if he has a season like he did this year...this has to be handled very carefully by the front office.

[86WARD]

Patriots Agree To Terms With Rams Free Agent WR Brandon Lloyd

Definitely not #1 money...

Brandon Lloyd's deal with Pats is 3yrs/$12M [https://twitter.com/#!/JasonLaCanfor...8375062130688]

[polamalubeast]

Definitely not #1 money...

Brandon Lloyd's deal with Pats is 3yrs/$12M [https://twitter.com/#!/JasonLaCanfor...8375062130688]

But Welker made right now 9.5 million

The patriots will keep their two first round pick for improving their defense.

[fansince'76]

If Wallace only signs for 1 year, we have Brown, Sanders and Wallace up for new contracts next year. Good problem for this coming season, because they will all play hungry. Potentially bad problem, depending where the cap lands and how much money the Steelers want to commit to one position. Wallace will be the UFA, so my guess is he walks next year, unless the Steelers lock him up. If they lock up Wallace, how much are they going to pay Brown and Sanders. My guess is that at least 1 of the 3 don't make it to 2013.

In that scenario Sanders becomes expendable, IMO.

[polamalubeast]

If Wallace only signs for 1 year, we have Brown, Sanders and Wallace up for new contracts next year. Good problem for this coming season, because they will all play hungry. Potentially bad problem, depending where the cap lands and how much money the Steelers want to commit to one position. Wallace will be the UFA, so my guess is he walks next year, unless the Steelers lock him up. If they lock up Wallace, how much are they going to pay Brown and Sanders. My guess is that at least 1 of the 3 don't make it to 2013.

Remember that the Steelers have signed Ike Taylor, Woodley, Polamalu and Timmons in the last off-season.

[86WARD]

But Welker made right now 9.5 million

The patriots will keep their two first round pick for improving their defense.

Yep...IMO.

[86WARD]

In that scenario Sanders becomes expendable, IMO.

When I open "my book," it reads the same...lol.

[86WARD]

he just left to visit the rams, doesnt mean it fell through at all. he's the most sought after WR in free agency other than brandon lloyd, he's going to weigh his options

There ya go...San Fran got their #1 guy on a bounce back!!!!!

Mario Manningham agrees to two-year deal with 49ers.

[BigNastyDefense]

It looks like Wallace will be a Steeler at the least on the one year tender the Steelers put on him.

I agree that if we have to make one of the three expendable to resign two, I would rather let Sanders walk. But Brown & Sanders will both be RFA's. Brown will get the first round tender, and Sanders will get a second or third round tender depending on his performance this season.

If I had to choose between Wallace and Brown, I would take Brown. Wallace is an excellent receiver, but he's really just shown that he is "One Trick." Browns however has become a much more complete receiver and is an electric return man who can change the game with one return. And while he is likely not going to be the main return guy this season as our #2 or even #1 receiver, I can see him being used to give a spark much like Santonio Holmes was used.

Honestly, I would much rather lose Wallace this season than next. We'd get a first rounder in return for him. If we lose him after next season, best we can get is a 3rd round comp pick.

[suitanim]

I think if you remove Wallace, Brown will become less effective. I've seen that happen dozens of times over the years, both from the stanpoint of a #1 losing his #2 and the #1's production dropping, as well as a #2 losing his #1, stepping into the #1 role and not delivering as expected.

Best case scenario is to keep both.

[86WARD]

I think if you remove Wallace, Brown will become less effective. I've seen that happen dozens of times over the years, both from the stanpoint of a #1 losing his #2 and the #1's production dropping, as well as a #2 losing his #1, stepping into the #1 role and not delivering as expected.

Best case scenario is to keep both.

Agree suit. I think this is definitely one of those cases where you need both guys and in turn they both are super productive.

[polamalubeast]

The Steelers said it was a big priority to keep Wallace in the long term.

I think that Wallace will sign a long term contract in the next 5 months.

[tube517]

I think if you remove Wallace, Brown will become less effective. I've seen that happen dozens of times over the years, both from the stanpoint of a #1 losing his #2 and the #1's production dropping, as well as a #2 losing his #1, stepping into the #1 role and not delivering as expected.

Best case scenario is to keep both.

Yep. I agree. I remember when Yancey Thigpen got hurt in 96 and then left after the 97 season. Ernie Mills left after 96 season. We had Charles Johnson and Andre Hastings. They were good but not great receivers. Add Kordillyo, the 98-99 nightmare and you have a struggling passing game.

[Psycho Ward 86]

Wonder why'd they be negotiating with these teams...seeing that they both visited San Fran earlier...lol. I said that's the "facts" not a "fact." History (facts) shows that it happens more times than not. Sorry, I'll spell it out next time.

i just told you why. and yeah you probably should spell everything out if you're going to distort the meaning of all previous posts. Pretty sure "history" and "facts" arent interchangeable synonyms.

There ya go...San Fran got their #1 guy on a bounce back!!!!!

Mario Manningham agrees to two-year deal with 49ers.

my point exactly. young-receiver sprung with a team in rebuild, or a championship caliber team with a receiver demand. Easy choice.

[Dino 6 Rings]

I'd like a real Nose Tackle to eventually replace Hampton.

[Psycho Ward 86]

anyone know what kind of potential cheap NT's are left in free agency?

[SteelGhost]

I think if you remove Wallace, Brown will become less effective. I've seen that happen dozens of times over the years, both from the stanpoint of a #1 losing his #2 and the #1's production dropping, as well as a #2 losing his #1, stepping into the #1 role and not delivering as expected.

Best case scenario is to keep both.

Absolutely.

For next offseason the FO can TAG Brown to buy time to work a good deal and we can keep BOTH for a long time.

[steelreserve]

I don't think I even have to read the rest of the posts to guess that everyone's going to say "draft two offensive linemen" and then act shocked if it doesn't happen.

[oneforthetoe]

Absolutely.

For next offseason the FO can TAG Brown to buy time to work a good deal and we can keep BOTH for a long time.

There is no need to tag Brown next year. As was mentioned above, he will be a RFA. Put a first round tender on him and it is very unlikely anyone would try and take him.

[Chidi29]

If Wallace only signs for 1 year, we have Brown, Sanders and Wallace up for new contracts next year. Good problem for this coming season, because they will all play hungry. Potentially bad problem, depending where the cap lands and how much money the Steelers want to commit to one position. Wallace will be the UFA, so my guess is he walks next year, unless the Steelers lock him up. If they lock up Wallace, how much are they going to pay Brown and Sanders. My guess is that at least 1 of the 3 don't make it to 2013.

Answer is simple. Wallace gets to cash in, Brown and Sanders are RFAs and are tendered.

We have the same discussion about Brown and Sanders being plucked by other teams next year.

Nothing happens.

By the time we have to ink Brown and Sanders long term, who knows what the cap will look like. Way too far down the road to try and predict things.