Redskins trade for number 2 overall pick

[zulater]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/76...-st-louis-rams


In a pre-draft blockbuster trade, the St. Louis Rams have agreed in principle to send the second overall pick in this year's draft to the Washington Redskins for three first-round draft picks and a second-round pick, according to a source in Cleveland familiar with the terms of the deal.


The trade, first reported by FoxSports.com, cannot be signed off on, turned in and processed until the new league year starts Tuesday at 4 p.m. EST, but it is expected to become official then.

In the deal, the Rams will receive the Redskins' No. 6 overall pick, as well as the Redskins' first-round picks in 2013 and 2014. The Rams will also receive Washington's second-round pick this year in return for the second overall pick that the Redskins now will use on whichever quarterback the Indianapolis Colts do not draft No. 1 overall.

The deal was agreed upon early Thursday afternoon, but the NFL Management Council prohibited any announcement, a league source told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen. The Rams now have the sixth, 33rd and 39th overall picks in next month's draft/

Three ones and a second!

[st33lersguy]

St. Louis won big! St. Louis has a chance to be a playoff team by 2014. Bad trade for Washington. Griffin is walking into a bad situation. Talentless team, bad ownership, and with 2nd round and first round picks gone the next two years, they will not have much of a chance to build a decent supporting cast.

[zulater]

St. Louis won big! St. Louis has a chance to be a playoff team by 2014. Bad trade for Washington. Griffin is walking into a bad situation. Talentless team, bad ownership, and with 2nd round and first round picks gone the next two years, they will not have much of a chance to build a decent supporting cast.

Dan Snyder just can't help himself, he wants to win the offseason every year, and destroys the team as a result. The funniest part is the Redskins still claim they're in the market for Manning. Can you imagine that? Why on earth would Manning go there after they traded away their next 3 1st round picks?

[tube517]

Future bounty hunters for the Rams

[Chidi29]

Dan Snyder just can't help himself, he wants to win the offseason every year, and destroys the team as a result. The funniest part is the Redskins still claim they're in the market for Manning. Can you imagine that? Why on earth would Manning go there after they traded away their next 3 1st round picks?

In their defense, you can find other pieces to the puzzle in free agency (something the Redskins are no stranger to doing). Not going to find a franchise QB anywhere else.

[steelreserve]

Trading THREE first-rounders and a second-rounder to move up four spots in the draft, for a guy who looks as likely to bust as any QB in recent memory? Man, this has the potential to go down as the worst trade in NFL history, bar none.

I mean, you trade two first-rounders to get an established starting QB. These guys gave up almost double that to take a flyer on an unproven rookie with a half-dozen red flags. Snyder just made the Raiders look like geniuses. Also, watch out for the Rams circa 2015, although it's too bad their QB is nothing special either.

[The Duke]

Nice job Rams

and as usual, the Redskins are morons. You have a team devoid of talent and trade your next two first round picks?

[BigNastyDefense]

Wow. Just wow.

And they are going to have trouble stockpiling talent around him by giving up first round picks in 2013 and 2014. Yes, there's always free agency....but how often to stud wide receivers and running backs hit the free agent market? It's not very often. But hey....maybe Terrell Owens will be in the NFL this year because there isn't anyone for RGIII to throw to on that team.

The best chance for the Rams to trade back and get Justin Blackmon was with the Browns. Now with RGIII gone...I don't see the Browns trading back because I don't think there's going to be a player available where a team feels the need to trade up to #4 overall. If the Browns decide they need a receiver, then I think they might take Blackmon because their receiving corps totally sucks...and it would screw the Rams at the same time.

[XxKnightxX]

So how do you One Up the raiders, well there you have it. Did anyone in the FO have the balls to tell Bruce Allen and Dan Snyder that this is retarted? WOW

[steelerdude15]

I'm sorry, but I think this was stupid on the Redskins part, but great on the Rams part. Who gives up that many first round picks for a single player? This reminds me of when the Saints traded all their picks to get Ricky Williams.

[oneforthetoe]

Wow Dan Snyder < Mike Brown,

Dan Snyder < Matt Millen

Just a terrible trade for the Skins. Taking a chance on an unproven commodity and giving up all of your first round picks until 2015. Even Mike Ditka is shaking his head. On the positive side, if the Commish finds out that Greg Williams did run a bounty system at Washington, at least they won't lose any first round draft picks over the next two years.

[7willBheaven]

While they really only gave up 2 first rounders (they just swapped 1sts this year)....and a 2nd....in this day and age with the rookie cap...trades like this wont be unusual for a big player at the top of the draft. Had there been a rookie cap say the last 10 years...I could almost guarantee you there'd be a number of trades like this. Last year the Saints and Falcons gave up 1st rounders in this yrs draft to move up (and get a RB and WR)...and those deals seemed to work out pretty good as they both got solid players. So you're only talking 1 first rounder more to move up and get a potential Franchise QB (yes theres a 2nd rounder this yr involved...but putting that aside..as theres just about always another extra pick in most deals)...when you look at it that way...its not THAT bad. Yes it is a lot...and if RG3 flops...then yes it will be terrible. Its hard to get franchise QBs in this day and age and when you have the chance to do so you do it...for their sake he better pan out and become what they think he can be.

[tihmtahm]

I agree that the Redskins made a foolish trade... However... Why is everybody so down on RG3? He did quite well at the combine and everybody that has sat down with him says he's a very smart and talented guy. It's not like he's Ryan Leaf. I'm going against the grain and saying that he's going to do pretty good in the NFL. Maybe not 3 1st round draft picks good, but I'm betting he'll do better than the naysayers are giving credit for.

By the same token... Why do most people think Luck is the 2nd coming of Christ? He's got the bigger potential to be the more collossal bust if he doesn't pan out. Just a thought.

[steelreserve]

I agree that the Redskins made a foolish trade... However... Why is everybody so down on RG3? He did quite well at the combine and everybody that has sat down with him says he's a very smart and talented guy. It's not like he's Ryan Leaf. I'm going against the grain and saying that he's going to do pretty good in the NFL. Maybe not 3 1st round draft picks good, but I'm betting he'll do better than the naysayers are giving credit for.

By the same token... Why do most people think Luck is the 2nd coming of Christ? He's got the bigger potential to be the more collossal bust if he doesn't pan out. Just a thought.

Funny thing, at this point in Ryan Leaf's career, everyone else thought he was just as talented as RGIII. You just don't know.

After this point, Luck does NOT have the potential to be the more colossal bust. He has the potential to cost his team one (1) wasted first-round draft pick. Griffin will cost his team three first-round draft picks if he busts, plus a second-rounder. Not to mention - no one knew who the hell RGIII was until midway through this year. Luck has been basically the picture of consistency for two-plus seasons with the spotlight squarely on him.

Seriously, Redskins, WTF? Why would you trade away three first-round picks for any rookie? How dumb will you feel if your franchise QB is right there for the taking with a top-five pick next year, which you'll probably have after this move? How dumb will you feel if he's available in two years? You don't even know who's even going to be GOOD in two years. Yet you just throw everything at this guy for ... well, just because. Good fuckin' job.

[ShutDown24]

DEAR LORD.

I'm all for going after a franchise quarterback, they are priceless. But what a haul for St. Louis! I think the Redskins could have gotten the pick for less.

What a win for Les Snead. Great to start to his tenure with the Rams.

[86WARD]

To say its a bad trade or foolish trade is kinda ignorant. No one knows at this point whether it's good or bad. However, that's a lot to give up for an unproven commodity. A lot.

I think according to the draft chart, Ditka gave up 4200 and some points. This trade is estimated to be well over 5000.

[Galax Steeler]

To say its a bad trade or foolish trade is kinda ignorant. No one knows at this point whether it's good or bad. However, that's a lot to give up for an unproven commodity. A lot.

I think according to the draft chart, Ditka gave up 4200 and some points. This trade is estimated to be well over 5000.

I agree, but I have to think that the Rams will come out on top with this trade.

[ShutDown24]

To say its a bad trade or foolish trade is kinda ignorant. No one knows at this point whether it's good or bad. However, that's a lot to give up for an unproven commodity. A lot.

It may very well work out. I think that Griffin is a great fit in DC. However, I can say right now that on March 10th it is a bad trade. Why would you pull the trigger now if you are Washington? St. Louis wanted out of the #2 spot bad. And I don't believe anyone else was going to give up three firsts and a second for it. The only known threat you had was Cleveland and if it came down to it you could have outbid them - probably with less than you just gave away. I'm not the biggest fan of gamesmanship. I think if there is a player you want you should just take him. But with so much time left before the draft I think it would have been smart to make St. Louis sweat a little.

[polamalubeast]

Wow

[zulater]

I'm just glad the Browns wont be getting R.G.III. I think the kid's the real deal, but given what the Redskins gave up to get him he's going to really be put up against it as far as surrounding talent.

[st33lersguy]

I agree that the Redskins made a foolish trade... However... Why is everybody so down on RG3? He did quite well at the combine and everybody that has sat down with him says he's a very smart and talented guy. It's not like he's Ryan Leaf. I'm going against the grain and saying that he's going to do pretty good in the NFL. Maybe not 3 1st round draft picks good, but I'm betting he'll do better than the naysayers are giving credit for.

It is not the player, it is the situation that Daniel Snyder has put him in, rookie quarterback, talentless team, with a 2nd round pick this year and 2 1st round picks the next two years gone, they don't have much of a chance to build a supporting cast around him. They can try and build a supporting cast through free agency, but Snyder will probably just whiff on a boat load of players signed to massive contracts. I think Cleveland was on to something when they didn't want to get rid of their 22nd pick. Maybe they just wanted to make sure their starting quarterback had something on offense to work with

[86WARD]

I agree, but I have to think that the Rams will come out on top with this trade.

Agree. If I'm the Rams, I do it. If I'm the Redskins, it's too much for my blood...

[86WARD]

It is not the player, it is the situation that Daniel Snyder has put him in, rookie quarterback, talentless team, with a 2nd round pick this year and 2 1st round picks the next two years gone, they don't have much of a chance to build a supporting cast around him. They can try and build a supporting cast through free agency, but Snyder will probably just whiff on a boat load of players signed to massive contracts. I think Cleveland was on to something when they didn't want to get rid of their 22nd pick. Maybe they just wanted to make sure their starting quarterback had something on offense to work with

You can make an educated guess that this is how Snyder will handle it, but Snyder hasn't been that bad as an owner the last couple seasons. He's faded into the background and let the football people run the team. Bruce Allen is a good GM...he can build around RGIII if he's allowed...

[ALLD]

Reminds me of the Hershel Walker trade where the Cowboys built their SB team of the 1990s from the drafts picks of the Vikings. This would only be a good deal if RGIII can pass the ball to himself down field. It will make some headlines and sell tickets, but when they need to fill in the gaps over the next few seasons it will be very difficult to go deep into the playoffs IF they even contend.

Bad trade for the Skins, brilliant for the Rams.

[Count Steeler]

Rams have a much better chance now of being a playoff team before the Redskins.

Can't blame the Redskins for trying to improve their team, but that was a very steep price to pay.

St Louis better make these picks count.

[Godfather]

What is it with Snyder and giving up draft picks? The year they drafted Laron Landry, they didn't have another pick until the fifth round.

[ShutDown24]

What is it with Snyder and giving up draft picks? The year they drafted Laron Landry, they didn't have another pick until the fifth round.

I can buy it more in this case - with a quarterback. But generally, the Redskins are way too quick to trade away their future assets.

[SteelerFanInStl]

This was a great deal for the Rams. I'm impressed with the way that Les Snead was able to come in here and get this deal done at this time. They wanted to get the deal done at the start of free agency and they were able to do it. Now they'll have these picks available for trade and I wouldn't be surprised to see them make another trade this year. Another team might want to trade up to #6 to get Tannehill. They could also package their two 2nd round picks to move back up into the first round.

I'm also happy that RG III won't be going to Cleveland. I think he's going to be a very good NFL QB and I don't want to play against him twice a year.

[86WARD]

Browns offered a similar package and the Rams said no...lol.

[SteelerFanInStl]

Browns offered a similar package and the Rams said no...lol.

The word here in St Louis is that the Redskins were more aggressive in trying to get the deal done. I don't think that the Browns were willing to give up both first round picks this year and the Redskins were willing to add the 2nd round pick this year.