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    Quote Originally Posted by BigNastyDefense View Post
    I don't see how the Steelers only have themselves to blame, it's not the Steelers that lowered the salary cap down. It's not their fault that Wallace sounds like a guy that's going to take the highest dollar amount offered, even if it means signing with a perennial loser.

    I thought that he would take a sensible deal to stay with the Steelers, but he came off on his Sirius interview like a guy who would like to return to Pittsburgh, but it's all about the money. I understand where he's coming from, but money can't buy happiness and if the Steelers go on to win multiple Super Bowls while he goes to another team and never plays in another one, in the end he will probably end up kicking himself.

    All the players want more money and that includes woodley, Polamalu, Harrison, Ben, etc.

    Wallace is not different.

    If Wallace wants the contract of Larry Fitzgerald, is another story, but it is not the case.

    The big problem is the bad contract of Colon, Kemo is a big problem.

    Without his bad contracts, the Steelers would have no problem to sign(or TAG) Wallace.

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    But it's always been that way (since the advent of NFL free agency anyway). Take the fat payday and go play for a bottom-feeder, or take a bit less and play for a winner. Football, because of the complexity and dependency of players on each other to perform, as well as the large number of them on the field at any given time, is the WORST sport for this. In baseball, there's no cap, so teams like the Yankees can buy who they want. In basketball, one guy makes a huge difference. It's usually the worst teams in football that have the fat wallet to pay the best players to come and play for them for a few years. Rarely does it ever work out.
    Fire Goodell

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    I would rather the Steelers lose Wallace than bury themselves with a huge contract that would result in more players being released this year and in the future.
    Agreed

    unless you're Jerry Rice, a wide receiver does not carry a team. Give him a fair offer and if he doesn't want it then we just have more money for young talent in the next few years
    "We're a team. There's no offense. There's no defense. There's no special teams. We're one. We're a band of brothers." – Ben Roethlisberger

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by The Duke View Post
    Give him a fair offer and if he doesn't want it then we just have more money for young talent in the next few years

    The problem is that the Steelers are so in trouble in the salary cap, they will perhaps be unable to offer a fair contract to Wallace.

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    We're not going to be giving Wallace a long-term deal unless it's really reasonably for us. Because of the cap space, it'd be near the same amount as tagging him.

    He will be given a first round tender. It is very likely no other teams put in an offer sheet. Simple as that. Hopefully the cap will be in better shape this year.

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by BigNastyDefense View Post
    I don't see how the Steelers only have themselves to blame, it's not the Steelers that lowered the salary cap down. It's not their fault that Wallace sounds like a guy that's going to take the highest dollar amount offered, even if it means signing with a perennial loser.

    I thought that he would take a sensible deal to stay with the Steelers, but he came off on his Sirius interview like a guy who would like to return to Pittsburgh, but it's all about the money. I understand where he's coming from, but money can't buy happiness and if the Steelers go on to win multiple Super Bowls while he goes to another team and never plays in another one, in the end he will probably end up kicking himself.
    Colbert said the other day that the team did spend fairly lavishly during the uncapped year to try and get us to the Super Bowl (which to their credit, they did). But now it's coming back to bite us and shows why the team is always so quiet in FA.

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Chidi29 View Post
    We're not going to be giving Wallace a long-term deal unless it's really reasonably for us. Because of the cap space, it'd be near the same amount as tagging him.

    He will be given a first round tender. It is very likely no other teams put in an offer sheet. Simple as that. Hopefully the cap will be in better shape this year.
    With all the information that I heard past several days, it is very unlikely that Wallace did not an offer from another team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    With all the information that I heard past several days, it is very unlikely that Wallace did not an offer from another team.
    Remember how Yancey Thigpen was recruited at the 1997 Pro Bowl by the Titans players playing in that game. Don't be surprised if guys from other teams did the same with Wallace. Recruiting happens.

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    With all the information that I heard past several days, it is very unlikely that Wallace did not an offer from another team.
    If that's the case, it's tampering. FA period hasn't started yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlastFurnace View Post
    Remember how Yancey Thigpen was recruited at the 1997 Pro Bowl by the Titans players playing in that game. Don't be surprised if guys from other teams did the same with Wallace. Recruiting happens.
    If Wallace goes with the patriots, he will be really very good with Tom Brady and this is the worst nightmare for me.

    terrible,terrible nightmare....it will be very very,very painful for me

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    If Wallace chooses to look out for himself, so be it. He is entitled. If he thinks that the Steelers are serious contenders for the SB next year, he may take a pay cut. But hearing the rumblings that either SF or NE are willing to bite, why not hold out for the most money. SF and NE are legitimate contenders for the SB.

    Business is business. Hate seeing players leave, but that is life in this NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    If that's the case, it's tampering. FA period hasn't started yet.
    I truly believe that this information is serious.

    One thing is certain, the next 3 weeks will be very long and I'm preparing for a big nightmare.

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Wallace is in little control of his destiny here. If he gets tendered, it's completely out of his hands where he winds up. The teams have all the control.

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Chidi29 View Post
    Wallace is in little control of his destiny here. If he gets tendered, it's completely out of his hands where he winds up. The teams have all the control.
    It's a bit out of control of Wallace and also of the steelers.

    If a team makes an offer to wallace and the Steelers can not equalize because the problem of the salary cap, Wallace will leave the steelers

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Speaking of tenders, Kapinos offered an exclusive rights tender, according to rotoworld.

    https://twitter.com/#!/mikebires/sta...25955741147136

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    It's a bit out of control of Wallace and also of the steelers.

    If a team makes an offer to wallace and the Steelers can not equalize because the problem of the salary cap, Wallace will leave the steelers
    And it's very unlikely a team makes an offer. That's my whole point.

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Chidi29 View Post
    And it's very unlikely a team makes an offer. That's my whole point.
    I would love you're right, but I read twitter since 3 days and I'd be very surprised if Wallace was not an offer of the 49ers or patriots.

    Adam Schefter is very credible and not make mistakes very often.

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    I would love you're right, but I read twitter since 3 days and I'd be very surprised if Wallace was not an offer of the 49ers or patriots.

    Adam Schefter is very credible and not make mistakes very often.
    Schefter has been all over the place this season.

    And again, look at how rarely you seem teams giving up a pick to snag an RFA.

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    I would love you're right, but I read twitter since 3 days and I'd be very surprised if Wallace was not an offer of the 49ers or patriots.

    Adam Schefter is very credible and not make mistakes very often.
    Look man, I understand your concern, but the Steelers will be fine with or without Wallace. You act like it's the end of the world or the end of the Steelers, and it's not. It's one guy. If he chooses money over stability with a winning franchise, so be it. There's nothing you, I or anyone else can do about it.








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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Chidi29 View Post
    Schefter has been all over the place this season.

    And again, look at how rarely you seem teams giving up a pick to snag an RFA.
    With the new CBA, I'm afraid that things change....very afraid

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    With the new CBA, I'm afraid that things change....very afraid
    What changes in the CBA would indicate that to you?

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Terminator View Post
    Look man, I understand your concern, but the Steelers will be fine with or without Wallace. You act like it's the end of the world or the end of the Steelers, and it's not. It's one guy. If he chooses money over stability with a winning franchise, so be it. There's nothing you, I or anyone else can do about it.
    If he loses Wallace, possibly with patriots or maybe the 49ers, I hope that the selection of the first round will be very good!

    It is true that his is not the end of the world, since losing Wallace is not like losing LeBron James, but its going to be very painful for me, but I hoped that the Steelers have an excellent draft and that the problems of the salary cap will be resolved soon.

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    And besides, if a team is willing to sign Wallace away and give the Steelers a first-round pick...with their history of success with first-round picks over the past decade, that would be just fine with me. They will use it to draft yet another impact player and will make the team better in the long run, something you'd think other teams would not be willing to do, especially any AFC North team. That is more important than overpaying for Wallace.








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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Chidi29 View Post
    What changes in the CBA would indicate that to you?
    It is now only one choice of the first round.

    Before it was a choice of first and 3rd round.

    And in addition, the teams know that the steelers are really in trouble in the salary cap.

    I hope you'll be right, but it will be very long for me in the next 3 weeks to hear many rumors about Wallace.

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    If he loses Wallace, possibly with patriots or maybe the 49ers, I hope that the selection of the first round will be very good!

    It is true that his is not the end of the world, since losing Wallace is not like losing LeBron James, but its going to be very painful for me, but I hoped that the Steelers have an excellent draft and that the problems of the salary cap will be resolved soon.
    The salary cap issues will be resolved soon, we just have to give it time. I will be upset if we do loose Mikey and I feel it would hurt the WR corp, I'm sure the Steelers will make a great first round pick in his place.

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    It is now only one choice of the first round.

    Before it was a choice of first and 3rd round.

    And in addition, the teams know that the steelers are really in trouble in the salary cap.

    I hope you'll be right, but it will be very long for me in the next 3 weeks to hear many rumors about Wallace.
    First round tenders existed in the past and teams put them on players. How many of them were snagged by other teams? What about players that receivered lower tenders? How many of them left?

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Count Steeler View Post
    Business is business. Hate seeing players leave, but that is life in this NFL.
    I'm sure it doesn't go without notice how a contract can become a players worst enemy sometimes. They play a violent game and want to be paid. If the Steelers can't pay Wallace what he is worth because of cap concerns, I can't blame him for going after the money.

    I also can't blame the Steelers for letting him walk if the contract someone offers him is off the charts.

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Terminator View Post
    And besides, if a team is willing to sign Wallace away and give the Steelers a first-round pick...with their history of success with first-round picks over the past decade, that would be just fine with me. They will use it to draft yet another impact player and will make the team better in the long run, something you'd think other teams would not be willing to do, especially any AFC North team. That is more important than overpaying for Wallace.

    You're right, but experts are going predicting a 8-8 or 9-7 season, as in 2010 and it will be a very very long off-season!

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by BlastFurnace View Post
    I'm sure it doesn't go without notice how a contract can become a players worst enemy sometimes. They play a violent game and want to be paid. If the Steelers can't pay Wallace what he is worth because of cap concerns, I can't blame him for going after the money.

    I also can't blame the Steelers for letting him walk if the contract someone offers him is off the charts.
    Yeah, if we is asking way too much then it might be time for him to move on.

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    Re: Schefter on the Steelers' offseason issues

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    You're right, but experts are going predicting a 8-8 or 9-7 season, as in 2010 and it will be a very very long off-season!
    Predictions are predictions. Remember how a couple of years ago everyone was saying it was going to be Cowboys vs Bengals in the Super Bowl? Yeah, we saw how that went.

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