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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Which is more sad? Seeing Hines released, or seeing him as the #5 wR and inactive on game day.

    Move along Hines. Congrats on the 2 super bowls, 1000 catches and $millions in the bank. Best wishes.

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    I'm still hoping they can work out a deal with Ward. I know Ward doesn't want to leave football yet, he wants to retire a Steeler, the fans like Ward, the Pittsburgh community like Ward, the F.O. likes Ward, he can still play ball and teach the younger receiver's, and the plus is he's willing to work out a deal on his current contract.....so with all of these pluses, why would they turn him loose ? Let him hang around for another year and see what happens. There may always be an injury somewhere where Hines can step in....and you know there is always a spot somewhere on Special Teams where he could fit in.....just my opnion.

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    It's time.
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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    I'd rather have Ward at $300K than a guy off the street for the minimum of 465,000 or 590,000. If Ward accepts a pay cut, it would only cost the Steelers $300K more than if they outright released him. Plus there would be dead money on the books for two years.

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    I'd rather have Ward at $300K than a guy off the street for the minimum of 465,000 or 590,000. If Ward accepts a pay cut, it would only cost the Steelers $300K more than if they outright released him. Plus there would be dead money on the books for two years.
    He would add value just as a mentor to the young receivers for one more year. Being that there is going to be a new offense and all. Ward will probably "get it" sooner than the young players.

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by Count Steeler View Post
    He would add value just as a mentor to the young receivers for one more year. Being that there is going to be a new offense and all. Ward will probably "get it" sooner than the young players.
    Nfl vet minimum is just under $1 million for Hines. You want to pay him that to mentor 2 WR that had 1000 yard seasons and went to the pro bowl?

    Tell him to retire, pay him as a coach and save the roster spot for someone with upside. I can't stand to watch him catch token bubble screens any more.

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Nfl vet minimum is just under $1 million for Hines. You want to pay him that to mentor 2 WR that had 1000 yard seasons and went to the pro bowl?

    Tell him to retire, pay him as a coach and save the roster spot for someone with upside. I can't stand to watch him catch token bubble screens any more.
    Fair enough. It doesn't look like this situation is going to make it to training camp. I thought from the previous post that they could pay him $300,000. If the decision has to be made now, then, Ward should retire. His only chance to make the team is if someone gets injured. If Cotchery resigns, Ward would be #5 at best.

    Even Wes Lyons, if he is still out there would be useful as a 6' 8" target in the red zone.

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by Count Steeler View Post
    Fair enough. It doesn't look like this situation is going to make it to training camp. I thought from the previous post that they could pay him $300,000. If the decision has to be made now, then, Ward should retire. His only chance to make the team is if someone gets injured. If Cotchery resigns, Ward would be #5 at best.

    Even Wes Lyons, if he is still out there would be useful as a 6' 8" target in the red zone.


    Especially since the tallest receiver on the roster is 6'3" and I've never heard of him.

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    You know what this means.....




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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by O'Malley View Post
    Especially since the tallest receiver on the roster is 6'3" and I've never heard of him.
    Wes Lyons was on our team in preseason.

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by Count Steeler View Post
    Fair enough. It doesn't look like this situation is going to make it to training camp. I thought from the previous post that they could pay him $300,000. If the decision has to be made now, then, Ward should retire. His only chance to make the team is if someone gets injured. If Cotchery resigns, Ward would be #5 at best.

    Even Wes Lyons, if he is still out there would be useful as a 6' 8" target in the red zone.
    If Ward was released he'd count about $1.2M against the cap. If he's kept, $1.5M. So basically you are paying $300K to keep him or you are paying a 1 or 2 year vet $400-$600 on top of the $1.2M.

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by O'Malley View Post
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    Especially since the tallest receiver on the roster is 6'3" and I've never heard of him.

    I think we all know that the "tall red zone target" is about as useful as finding the next "Bus." Not necessary to win a championship...far from necessary...lol.

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Which is more sad? Seeing Hines released, or seeing him as the #5 wR and inactive on game day.

    Move along Hines. Congrats on the 2 super bowls, 1000 catches and $millions in the bank. Best wishes.
    That's how I see it.....go out in grace Hines

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    If Ward was released he'd count about $1.2M against the cap. If he's kept, $1.5M. So basically you are paying $300K to keep him or you are paying a 1 or 2 year vet $400-$600 on top of the $1.2M.
    Ah. Thanks for clearing that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    If Ward was released he'd count about $1.2M against the cap. If he's kept, $1.5M. So basically you are paying $300K to keep him or you are paying a 1 or 2 year vet $400-$600 on top of the $1.2M.
    And that, put succinctly, is why he should at least be invited to camp. If he retires, (I could be wrong, I haven't check it out in a while) the cap hit is very different. So let him come to camp and see if he can win a position. I have no problem with him being a 5th receiver and basically a player-coach. Heck, that's what Batch has basically been for the last what, 7 years?


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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    I don't think it has to do with money, I just feel he wants to move on from a team that would have him behind Cotchery and possible a #5 or 6 reciever on the depth chart. Maybe it's just time, but I feel a decision soon is better than later. If Ward goes we need to sign and hold on to Cotchery as long as possible. Guess we just have to wait and see.
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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    If Ward was released he'd count about $1.2M against the cap. If he's kept, $1.5M. So basically you are paying $300K to keep him or you are paying a 1 or 2 year vet $400-$600 on top of the $1.2M.
    $300K difference...plus a roster slot.

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by GodfatherofSoul View Post
    $300K difference...plus a roster slot.
    Charlie Batch, Injured Aaron Smith, Antwan Randle El...the list goes on. They've kept lesser dead weight on the roster in the past...it wouldn't be a surprise if he stayed.

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Charlie Batch, Injured Aaron Smith, Antwan Randle El...the list goes on. They've kept lesser dead weight on the roster in the past...it wouldn't be a surprise if he stayed.
    He's worth his weight in gold in the locker room and mentor/coach to the young bucks.
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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    I hope he signs for $1 million like Bettis did.
    No matter where you go, there you are.

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    I saw a lot of plays where Hines was open. Ben just refused to take the 5 yard gain, instead he wanted the deep ball to Wallace and ended up getting sacked. Think about it, Hines is old so he's not running far or over the middle, but he's there. If Hines got the ball more, it would cause the safeties to honor him along with the TE and free up the wideouts.

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
    And that, put succinctly, is why he should at least be invited to camp. If he retires, (I could be wrong, I haven't check it out in a while) the cap hit is very different. So let him come to camp and see if he can win a position. I have no problem with him being a 5th receiver and basically a player-coach. Heck, that's what Batch has basically been for the last what, 7 years?
    Good post.

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Where is it that Ward only counts $1.5 million against the cap this year? He is due a base salary of $4 million, plus whatever part of his prorated signing bonus. I thought that if he is released before March, that the Steelers would save that $4million and have to still pay the prorated portion of his bonus.

    I was under the impression that releasing him saves a lot of $ and space.

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by Tugger View Post
    I saw a lot of plays where Hines was open. Ben just refused to take the 5 yard gain, instead he wanted the deep ball to Wallace and ended up getting sacked. Think about it, Hines is old so he's not running far or over the middle, but he's there. If Hines got the ball more, it would cause the safeties to honor him along with the TE and free up the wideouts.
    I've seen that too, if Hines stays, MAYBE Haley can tell Ben to use him more to pick those 5 yds

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Wow! Now an "anti-Ben-to-Ward-in-favor-of-the-Arians-favored(I'm guessing)-long-ball-conspiracy"!

    Sweet! I can't wait to see what's next!
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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Why can't some of you just accept that he's not as good as he once was?

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    I could see keeping him with the Steelers as a WR coach.

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by Count Steeler View Post
    Wes Lyons was on our team in preseason.
    Personally I liked the kid.. But not really a spot for him I guess... Would be nice to pick up a tall receiver though.. Huge advantage to have in the Red Zone..

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    Re: Steelers Reportedly Won’t Bring Back WR Hines Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by The WH View Post
    Why can't some of you just accept that he's not as good as he once was?
    I do, IMHO it's time for him to retire before he gets a bad injury.

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