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    Re: Next OC

    Quote Originally Posted by vasteeler View Post
    i would love to see us get mike martz
    Martez retired.

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    Re: Next OC

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Terminator View Post
    Like I said in the other thread, I'll be happy with the OC if he doesn't run an uber-conservative, 70% run offense and fixes the red zone issues. John Shoop does seem like an interesting choice, though.
    Also forgot to mention he was born in Oakmont which to those who don't know the area, isn't that far from Pittsburgh.

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    Re: Next OC

    Quote Originally Posted by Chidi29 View Post
    I did some poking around yesterday just in case Arians would be gone.

    One thing that really jumped out at me was the number of guys Tomlin has brought in new that he's had a prior relationship with. He worked with Garrett Giemont, Randy Fichtner, and Kriby Wilson all before they were with him on the Steelers. Giemont and Wilson were with him at Tampa Bay.

    Having said that, here's my best guess.

    John Shoop, the current North Carolina OC.

    http://www.tarheelblue.com/sports/m-...op_john00.html

    He was the quarterbacks coach for one year in Tampa when Tomlin was the DBs coach, back in 2004. That year, Brian Griese had the best season of his career, throwing for 20 TDs and leading the NFL with a 69.3% completion percentage (and a 7.8 YPA so it wasn't him being Captain Checkdown).

    Shoop is only 42 but has a ton of experience. Was the OC for three years with the Bears and the final five games with Oakland in the 2006 season.

    He has been the Tar Heels' OC since 2007 and really helped develop TJ Yates. Also been there to coach Hakeen Nicks and Greg Little. The numbers might not be mind-boggling, but then again, they're not running the spread like nearly every other team.

    College teams have shown interest in promoting/hiring him. He was in the running for the head coaching gig at Richmond and reports were Boston College wanted him as their OC. Obviously, they have to be getting good reports on the job he is doing.

    I think it's time for him to get back into the NFL.

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    So that is my best guess. Other guy who caught my eye is Jimmy Robinson, the WRs coach in Dallas.

    http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/te...Jimmy_Robinson

    Doesn't have any OC experience which is a pretty big knock for a guy coacihng 22 years, he's only been a WRs coach his entire life. But he's been apart of some great WR groups. Was in Indy from 94-97 and helped jumpstart Marvin Harrison's career (in the same way Arians doid to Manning). Was with the Giants for some of the best years Amani Toomer had. Was with the Saints in 2004 and 2005 before heading to Green Bay from 2006 to 2010 and had guys like Greg Jennings put up gaudy numbers while developing players like Jordy Nelson and James Jones. He was with Dallas for his first year last year and has continued the development of Dez Bryant while turning Laurent Robinson into a breakout player.

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    So my top four choices are:

    1. Randy Fichtner
    2. John Shoop
    3. Hue Jackson
    4. Jimmy Robinson
    Nice research

    But the thought of having a Carolina guy being boss to Scottie Montgomery, a Duke guy, is sickening to me. Even if it is football related and not basketball.

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    Re: Next OC

    I'm just happy someone on this board knows who Scottie Montgomery is.

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    Whoever it is, let's hope he can come up with a coherent offensive gameplan and has heard of the word adjustment

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    Re: Next OC

    Quote Originally Posted by Chidi29 View Post
    I'm just happy someone on this board knows who Scottie Montgomery is.
    I don't pay TOO much attention to Duke football, so I didn't know who he was when he was hired. Plus he played when I was like 10 and at that point I didn't care at all about Duke football. He was pretty good though.

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    Re: Next OC

    Quote Originally Posted by Chidi29 View Post
    I'm just happy someone on this board knows who Scottie Montgomery is.


    Whoops wrong one hahaha.


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    Quote Originally Posted by XxKnightxX View Post


    Whoops wrong one hahaha.
    Haha!

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    Re: Next OC

    Steelers Should Be Serious About Packers Quarterbacks Coach Tom Clements for Their Offensive Coordinator Opening

    http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com...ans-retirement

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    Re: Next OC

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Steelers Should Be Serious About Packers Quarterbacks Coach Tom Clements for Their Offensive Coordinator Opening

    http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com...ans-retirement
    ABSOLUTELY.

    During Clements time as the quarterbacks coach with the Green Bay Packers, he has worked with starting quarterbacks: Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, and Matt Flynn. In 2007, Favre statistically had one of his best seasons with the Green Bay Packers, taking them to the NFC Championship game. Clements is also credited for assisting in the development of one of the game's elite quarterbacks in Aaron Rodgers, as the only player in NFL history to throw for 4,000+ yards during his first two years as a starting quarterback in 2008 and 2009, and winning Super Bowl XLV and Super Bowl Most Valuable Player Award in Rodgers' third year as a starting quarterback in 2010.

    In Week 17 of the 2011 season, after the Packers went 14-1, head coach Mike McCarthy chose to deactivate Rodgers to keep him healthy for the playoffs and start backup quarterback, Matt Flynn, on January 1, 2012 at Lambeau Field vs. the Detroit Lions, Flynn's second start in his career. Throughout the game, Clements worked with Flynn on the sidelines, showing him what to look for in the photos from the previous offensive series. Flynn had a record setting performance, throwing for 480 yards and 6 touchdowns, both single game records for the Green Bay Packers.

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    Re: Next OC

    Looks like Philbin will be taking the Miami HC job, so kiss Clements goodbye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Looks like Philbin will be taking the Miami HC job, so kiss Clements goodbye.
    And Oakland has had practically every Packers' assistant on their list since Reggie McKenzie became the GM.

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    Im telling you...Ive been saying this for a week or so on other sites and I think Todd Haley would be a perfect fit for us...I really do think that!! Plus he has pittsburgh connections!!!

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    Re: Next OC

    It's funny that Arians was blamed for passing too much and not running the ball enough/well enough, but all the suggestions for replacements have been people who will bring in offensive-minded, high-powered offenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chidi29 View Post
    It's funny that Arians was blamed for passing too much and not running the ball enough/well enough, but all the suggestions for replacements have been people who will bring in offensive-minded, high-powered offenses.
    Haha!

    I hope that the Steelers will be a pass happy team. The best offense in the NFL are a pass happy team(Packers,saints,patriots,lions and the giants right now)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chidi29 View Post
    It's funny that Arians was blamed for passing too much and not running the ball enough/well enough, but all the suggestions for replacements have been people who will bring in offensive-minded, high-powered offenses.
    The larger concern (regardless of passing or running emphasis) was the 20.3 PPG with how loaded we are at the skill positions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Haha!

    I hope that the Steelers will be a pass happy team. The best offense in the NFL are a pass happy team(Packers,saints,patriots,lions and the giants right now)
    I mean seriously, look at the list compiled so far.

    Philbin, Clements, Haley, Jackson (who did run quite a bit but used the Al Davis' vertical game when they threw it).

    What run-minded, smashmouth OC has been suggested by those guys?

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    Its a passing league...Todd Haley was the OC with the Cardinals with Kurt Warner and went to the Super Bowl under Whisenhunt....I would definitely look at him!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelMayhem72 View Post
    Its a passing league...Todd Haley was the OC with the Cardinals with Kurt Warner and went to the Super Bowl under Whisenhunt....I would definitely look at him!!
    Then why was he so heavily criticized for passing so much?

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    Re: Next OC

    If that article is right, I hope Tomlin doesn't take this "retirement" as a personal slight. This may be a critical point in his career as the head coach of the Steelers. Hope he mays the right pick.

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    Re: Next OC

    Todd Haley got a bad rep here for being an a-hole to players. His departure was a big reason for the turnaround. He's another Belicheck clone who tries artificially to be hard-ass and it doesn't work for him.

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    We do need to pass more...IMHO! The pass needs to set up the run!

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    You cant go by him getting into it with Boldin...Boldin is an asshole and everybody knows it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelMayhem72 View Post
    Its a passing league...Todd Haley was the OC with the Cardinals with Kurt Warner and went to the Super Bowl under Whisenhunt....I would definitely look at him!!
    Definitely a passing league...look how the times have changed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GodfatherofSoul View Post
    Todd Haley got a bad rep here for being an a-hole to players. His departure was a big reason for the turnaround. He's another Belicheck clone who tries artificially to be hard-ass and it doesn't work for him.
    Reason enough to not so much as touch him with a ten-foot pole...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GBMelBlount View Post
    The larger concern (regardless of passing or running emphasis) was the 20.3 PPG with how loaded we are at the skill positions.
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    Jim Caldwell is another guy that worked with Peyton for years. Plus he's from the DUngy tree like Tomlin

    he might be a good choice if they do decide to look outside. But I still think they're set on Fichtner
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    Re: Next OC

    Quote Originally Posted by GBMelBlount View Post
    I believe you are right. Clements is probably who they would like.

    But I am still keeping my pitchfork and torch ready for when Arians un-retires, or Todd Haley comes to town.

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    what about Brad Childress Tomlin and he has a relationship already from the viqueens


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