Right now it's hard to argue he hasn't. And maybe if this thought gains traction in the national media it will put the chip back on Ben's shoulder that he came into the league with?
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Right now it's hard to argue he hasn't. And maybe if this thought gains traction in the national media it will put the chip back on Ben's shoulder that he came into the league with?
"A man's got to know his limitations."
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Tough argument, especially if Eli wins another SB. Sure had a better year than Ben.
One thing is sure...Ben and Eli >>>>> Rivers
If the Giants played in the AFCN, they wouldn't have even made the playoffs this season...
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AFCN > NFCE
Yes, but I think the Giants have at least 10-6 with the schedule of bengals.
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Moot point. Giants are winning. They may get back to the SB.
Yes.
Eli just knocked off All-World Aaron Rodgers.
Ben was outplayed by Rodgers and just got Tebow'd in the postseason this year.
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Manning has not been banged up for the last 6 years either beginning with a Hyabusa.
All Defense!
Since when did Ben start playing D?
I'd love to see Eli play behind this o-line
Eli Manning also didn't get out gamed by Tebow.
Sorry, Ben pretty much lost his credibility this year that already disappating with his subpar performance in XLV.
I hate to say it but you can make the argument most definitely. The Giants do however have a far superior O-line and better receiving corp. Yeah you read that right.
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Yea i agree, the giants defense as been good in the post season made the Falcons look awful, now the Packers.
I feel this is only a valid argument for the last month of the season plus the Broncos game. Ben was having just as good a year with a much better winning percentage overall. Eli has had a good year though and has thrown for a gazillion yards.
No, he got "out gamed" by Tavaris Jackson, Charlie Whitehurst, Vince Young and Rex Grossman - all at home.
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I'd still take Ben over Eli. But barely, and I have to wonder if I'm being a homer about it?Which never would have been the case before .Regardless being compared to Eli is far from an insult. The guy went into this season claiming he was elite, and by God he sure has backed it up and proved it.
"A man's got to know his limitations."
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Eli is just way too inconsistent, including this year. Ben's crap games come from injuries. Plus, Eli disappears for whole seasons.
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If you're going to look at it that way Ben got beat by Flacco twice this year!No, he got "out gamed" by Tavaris Jackson, Charlie Whitehurst, Vince Young and Rex Grossman - all at home.
"A man's got to know his limitations."
Please do it eli. we need something to get this man motivated again
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They are pretty close that's for sure
Eli has too many stretches when he seems to dumb to be playing QB, but when he's on fire (like lately) he's like Peyton out there
"We're a team. There's no offense. There's no defense. There's no special teams. We're one. We're a band of brothers." – Ben Roethlisberger
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I wouldn't go that far. Let's see how he does next weekend before we throw around wild statements like that. lol
No way. Eli's still up and down like a bipolar chick. You never know which Eli is going to show up, and that sometimes goes for a whole season at a time.
See you Space Cowboy ...
Reluctantly have to agree with everything zu has said, esp if Eli wins another Super Bowl. I'll still take Ben and wouldn't trade him for anybody, but Eli has looked really impressive lately. Really, either way you can't go wrong right now, and whatever Eli does doesn't take away from what Ben has accomplished, and earlier in his career as well. I believe Ben still has more to give - I ain't throwing him under the bus just yet. But Eli has pulled up neck and neck beside Ben as far as the QB of 2004 goes, I think.
So one year is going to determine who's the better quarterback? Let's not forget Eli's inconsistency throughout his career, the powerful offensive line he's always had until recently, the many fundamental mistakes hes made, and he can't take nearly as many hits as Ben. ALSO, the Giants were swept by the Redskins this year who were much worse than the Ravens. The Ravens are in the AFC Championship game while the Redskins went 5-11.
Are we just going to start throwing every one of our players under the bus now that they're out? What the hell is wrong with you people?
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I think that Eli has better offensive coaches and system than the Steelers.
The Giants offense actually uses the RB's and TE's in their passing offense.
I wouldn't trade Ben for Eli though. I would trade the Steelers offensive philosophy for the Giants offensive philosophy though.
You stop with your voice of reason.Are we just going to start throwing every one of our players under the bus now that they're out? What the hell is wrong with you people?
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A mediocre quarterback on an excellent team who happened to go 12-4 and is in the AFC championship game.
Not a good argument.
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