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    Won't be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Jonathan Scott.I don't even want him as a backup/

    Hines Ward. Hope you get your 1000th catch this year. But as of now you're standing in the way of Emanuel Sanders.

    Casey Hampton. Big men get old in a hurry, Casey's looking real old at the moment.

    Chris Hoke. Nice run for an undrafted free agent, but time to get on with your life's work.

    Aaron Smith. One of the all time good guys, and the best 3-4 DE in Steelers history. But it's the last year of his contract, and I see little chance the Steelers will want him back.

    James Farrior. A truly great Steeler, but he's lost two steps, time to go in a different direction.
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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    What's Hoke's salary? I doubt they let go both him and Hampton

    everything else seems about right

    I know MeMo is playing well, but if Batch comes back healthy next year he'll probably bump him off the roster too
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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    I think we will have seen the last of BMAC, Cotchery, and Arians too.

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    Smith, Hoke, Hampton, Kiesel, Farrior, Foote, Scott, Ward, Colon. Out of the top of my head.

    Paying way too much for these guys who are hitting the wall. Nothing against them, but it happens to us all and it was going to happen sometime one way or another. I'm sorry, but it happens. Most of the Linemen need to go too. This core of O-Linemen (besides Pouncey) aren't getting any better. Gilbert I see some potential in, but everyone else can vamoose. Arians and Lebeau I can see hanging it up after this year and Butler will step in.

    The Steelers better start serving youth before they fall by the way side and set themselves back for the decade. Even if they didn't look bad, big changes are coming. I hope for their sake.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    i'd bench aaron smith. last year he wasn't playing and we were beasts against the run so maybe he's the problem?

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by JayC View Post
    i'd bench aaron smith. last year he wasn't playing and we were beasts against the run so maybe he's the problem?
    I would imagine that as soon as Keisel gets back into the lineup Smith will be benched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steeldevil View Post
    I would imagine that as soon as Keisel gets back into the lineup Smith will be benched.
    He's injured so that may not even be a choice.



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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Farrior, Smith, Hoke, Ward, Moore, Gay, Foster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    He's injured so that may not even be a choice.
    Yes I meant when Keisel gets back from his injury.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Jonathon Scott, Aaron Smith, Brett Keisel, Larry Foote, Willie Colon, Chris Kemoeatu

    I would say those guys should all be released the first day it can possibly happen.

    Hampton's problem is that he's constantly being cut block, and I am not sure what can be done about that. The NFL is saying it's legal, and there's really no way to combat it.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    The last five you mentioned I would like to see retire as Steelers.

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    Forgot about William Gay, he should have been cut this year

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by steelerdude15 View Post
    The last five you mentioned I would like to see retire as Steelers.
    So would I. And honestly, I can see all of them retiring after this season, especially if it's made known that the Steelers are going with a youth movement and a lot of those guys will be backups.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Been dreading this day for years but I completely agree with everything on this thread. I still have faith in Ziggy and I hope Heyward pans out. If we can get younger on the line and add a few pieces to the secondary I think we will be fine. Timmons and Woodley will pick up sooner or later. Harrison will be ok yet I think. If our Oline would stay healthy and we could add a few pieces to that then I think we would be ok.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by steeldevil View Post
    Yes I meant when Keisel gets back from his injury.
    I was referring to Aaron Smith's injury. There may be no choice but to replace him.



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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Ward, J.Scott, Kemoeatu, Essex, Smith, Foote, Farrior, Gay.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    We should get rid of Mendenhall. Bad attitude and poor production. Keep MeMo, Batch, and Redman.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather View Post
    We should get rid of Mendenhall. Bad attitude and poor production. Keep MeMo, Batch, and Redman.
    How much longer is he under contract?


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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Hines Ward. Hope you get your 1000th catch this year. But as of now you're standing in the way of Emanuel Sanders.
    BULLCRAP!!!

    Emanuel Sanders is the only one standing in the way of Emanuel Sanders.

    No receiver does what Hines does...not one!!! He gets open down field on third and forever and wheather it's a good pass or a crappy pass he simply makes the play. He has a knack for getting open over the middle and can take a hit as well as he dishes!!!

    I can't believe how many of you have turned your backs on Hines...he can play on my team any time and for as long as he desires...He's earned that much!!!

    Hines Ward Forever!!!

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    I think Foote will be on that list as well as Farrior. NEED SOME YOUNG BLOOD!

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by Butch View Post
    BULLCRAP!!!

    Emanuel Sanders is the only one standing in the way of Emanuel Sanders.

    No receiver does what Hines does...not one!!! He gets open down field on third and forever and wheather it's a good pass or a crappy pass he simply makes the play. He has a knack for getting open over the middle and can take a hit as well as he dishes!!!

    I can't believe how many of you have turned your backs on Hines...he can play on my team any time and for as long as he desires...He's earned that much!!!

    Hines Ward Forever!!!

    Well stated.

    I don't think Hines has fallen off that much. With how badly the O-line has been playing, the only thing we can do on offense is throw home run balls to Wallace.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Hasn't Gay actually been playing well? I see him in on a lot of tackles, and I don't recall him getting burned yet. Maybe Swan is helping the Dbacks...

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    The O-Line minus Pouncey, Farrior, Foote, Smith. Keep Ward one more year as guidance to the young money. Batch, Dixon, Gay...


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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    FO should try and move Mendenhall for a draft pick or viable linemen.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by Butch View Post
    BULLCRAP!!!

    Emanuel Sanders is the only one standing in the way of Emanuel Sanders.

    No receiver does what Hines does...not one!!! He gets open down field on third and forever and wheather it's a good pass or a crappy pass he simply makes the play. He has a knack for getting open over the middle and can take a hit as well as he dishes!!!

    I can't believe how many of you have turned your backs on Hines...he can play on my team any time and for as long as he desires...He's earned that much!!!

    Hines Ward Forever!!!
    Unfortunately, Hines can't play forever. You and other fans are simply going to have to come to grips with that. It's not turning our backs on him, it's dealing with reality.








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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by Pristas View Post
    Hasn't Gay actually been playing well? I see him in on a lot of tackles, and I don't recall him getting burned yet. Maybe Swan is helping the Dbacks...
    Don't need to pass on the Steelers when you can just run the ball. Once we get to the passing teams like the *Patriots, you will see the true weaknesses of the pass D exploited.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather View Post
    We should get rid of Mendenhall. Bad attitude and poor production. Keep MeMo, Batch, and Redman.
    And Dwyer



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    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    Don't need to pass on the Steelers when you can just run the ball. Once we get to the passing teams like the *Patriots, you will see the true weaknesses of the pass D exploited.
    Exactly

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Ward is still by far the best receiver at getting open on critical plays. He is still a good player and is better at this point than Sanders or Brown and I am kinda disappointed that so many people are calling for his head. He is the only one that knows a hot read and he can read coverage as good as a qb.
    Not his fault the O line sucks so nobody has time to get open.....

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Smith - his body has betrayed him.

    Kemo - either Kemo or Colon are likely gone. Kemo has been healthier, but I believe he will be in his contract year. Colon just got a new contract, so if he is healthy, I think he comes back a guard or RT.

    Hines - I don't think he is done, but he knows his playing time will continue to dwindle. Just hanging on for the ride, so to speak, is not in Hines' DNA.

    Farrior - time to say happy trails. I think Foote stays as a veteran presence.

    Hoke or Hampton - they will probably keep one of them. I think Casey probably comes back for one more season, but has his snaps drastically reduced.

    As for Scott and Gay, neither are making that much money. Both can be effective back-ups. To me, calling for them to be booted off the team is nothing more than fan frustration.

    Wildcard cut would be Harrison - While I am certainly not calling for it, if he can't regain his form this season he could be a surprise release to save cap space.
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