Terrell Suggs is baffled by Cam Cameron’s play calling

[polamalubeast]

For a team that was rated one the NFL’s best with a 4-1 start, things turned ugly awfully quickly Monday night for the Baltimore Ravens. And they stayed that way, with the Ravens losing 12-7 to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

The dog of an offensive performance was one of the worst in Ravens history and linebacker Terrell Suggs called the team out on its approach.

“It baffles me that Ray Rice only had seven carries,” linebacker Terrell Suggs said. He was off on Rice’s carries by one, but Suggs was on a roll. “This is a Pro Bowl running back we’re talking about. You’ve got to feed the horse. They fed their horse. We got to feed our horse. He’s a good guy. He wants the ball. I think we should feed him. Ray Rice is a phenomenal player. You’ve got to use your phenomenal players.”

Indeed. What a concept.

The Jags, with a rookie quarterback in Blaine Gabbert and a star running back in Maurice Jones-Drew, ran the ball. A lot. “They kept it simple,” Suggs said. “Jones-Drew had 30 carries.” And when they couldn’t do that, they kicked field goals.

Rice ended up gaining 28 yards on the night. Behind an offensive line that continues to struggle, quarterback Joe Flacco completed 21 of 38 passes (one was to himself) for 137 yards, one TD and one interception. His development may not be regressing, but it isn’t progressing, either. “How many catches did Anquan [Boldin] have?” Suggs asked. Answer: four, for 40 yards. “We have guys who can do phenomenal things. We’ve got to get them the ball. It’s that simple.”

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...OaFM_blog.html

[fansince'76]

Sounds awfully familiar....

[suitanim]

Fire Cam Cameron!

[fansince'76]

Fire Cam Cameron!

http://www.ravens24x7.com/forum/show...814#post330814

Substitute BA's name for Cameron's and that thread is a carbon copy of threads I've seen here and elsewhere.

Yep. It's time. No 2 minute offensive gameplan at all, what kind of NFL coordinator doesn't have one? Total vanilla playcalling against a shit team.

I have been a Cam Cameron defender, but not anymore! I agree, he has to go! They did not adjust in the first half one bit. There should have been less deep routes run and more crossing routes.

I've been saying it for 2 years now - the douchebag has absolutely no business being a coordinator in the NFL. The guy is either too hard headed or too stupid to adjust his game plan.

Why does Cams 2 minute offense look just like his normal offense? The team had no urgency, It looks like they are playing in molasses wearing gravity boots. How many years of this shit do we have to watch?

Hire a real coordinator please! Hell bring Zorn back at least he isn't afraid to call plays and let his QB execute.

Etc., etc.

[tube517]

Fire Cam Arians!

[BigNastyDefense]

I really can't disagree with Suggs here. Wow, I think I feel sick after typing that.

[Edman]

Sounds awfully familiar....

Except it's the players, and not the fans...speaking out against the offensive playcalling. Besides that, pretty accurate from what most Steeler fans do (Me included).

Fire Cam Arians!

[suitanim]

My guess is, the players failed to execute his gameplan. Even players make excuses and look for scapegoats. The LOVED this guy a few weeks ago.

[fansince'76]

My guess is, the players failed to execute his gameplan. Even players make excuses and look for scapegoats. The LOVED this guy a few weeks ago.

Another gem from that thread on the Ravens board:

Watching the green bay offense then watching our's is like watching the spaceship take off and a yugo on 2 cylinders.

[suitanim]

Having not seen the game, I can only speculate...however, my educated guess is that the Jags dedicated themselves to stopping the run, and dared Flacco to beat them with the pass, which he was unable to do.

[O'Malley]

Validates the win over the Jaguars for the Steelers.. That team is better then their record for sure... FIRE FLACCO... That's what Suggs should be saying!

[SteelerFanInStl]

I didn't see the game last night but when I looked at the stats, that was exactly what I asked. Why didn't Rice get the ball more? The Ravens always get into trouble when they put too much of the offense through Flacco. Rice is their stud on offense and it should be centered around him.

[polamalubeast]

The jets fan also hate a lot their OC.

[polamalubeast]

BaltimoreTerp wrote:


We'll make the playoffs as a wild card, beat the mediocre AFC West or AFC South champion in the 1st round, and then blow it at Foxboro or Heinz Field in the divisional round. Someone give me one reason why I shouldn't expect this team to do the same damn thing every time. This sounds like an overreaction to a disappointing loss, and to an extent, it is. But if this was supposed to be 'our' year, where we take that leap, last night was the sort of night that was supposed to be a thing of the past. To put it bluntly, better teams, and Super Bowl caliber teams, don't lose to the Jacksonville Jaguars on national television.

Our defense deserves better.

[polamalubeast]

Rebllious


Joined: 04 Oct 2011
Posts: 69
Location: BMORE Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:18 pm Post subject:


Flacco confuses me, he the most inconsistent QB in the league. If Ray Rice is shut down Flacco is not going to win us the game. This is a QB driven league, the QB has to make the guys around you better. Flacco is not that guy.


SnA ExclusiVe


Joined: 01 Jun 2011
Posts: 1772
Location: Spokane, WA Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:16 pm Post subject:




I feel so bad for Ed Reed. The greatest safety of all time has never known what it's like to play for a good offense...Actually I feel bad for our entire defense. They go out and dominate, only to lose because of bums like Flacco, Cam Cameron and John Harbaugh.

Honestly I think a good comparison for Flacco is Alex Smith (excluding this year).


http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB...66156&start=30



B-More_2011


Joined: 28 Jan 2010
Posts: 740
Location: O.C. (MD) Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:47 pm Post subject:



The only big complaint I have with Harbaugh is his stubbornness. If it's not his way, than it just won't fly. He doesn't want to admit he's wrong at times, like keeping Cam Cameron around for four years.

[ALLD]

The Ravens didn't run the two-minute offense well because Flacco can't count to two.

[suitanim]

Troy Polamalu does not play for the ratbirds. HE is the greatest safety of all time...well, at least compared to Ed Reed. Ronnie Lott may have something to say about this too...

[Dino 6 Rings]

Troy Polamalu does not play for the ratbirds. HE is the greatest safety of all time...well, at least compared to Ed Reed. Ronnie Lott may have something to say about this too...

Come on, admit it, it would be cool to get Ed in the Black and Gold for just one year so he can win a Ring with us the way Rod won a ring with them. That would be a nice Finger in their eye.

Reed is pretty good. Troy is better though.

[NCSteeler]

Having not seen the game, I can only speculate...however, my educated guess is that the Jags dedicated themselves to stopping the run, and dared Flacco to beat them with the pass, which he was unable to do.

For starters Rice fumbled early and looked to lack confidence afterwards, as his coaches reenforced by not feeding him the ball. When MJD fumbled they came back out and ran 3 straight run plays to him, that's what you do to get em moving. Anyhow, the corners played tough physical all night and took some penalties because of it, but it frustrated Boldin and they have a rookie DB that out ran any of their deep stuff. And we know better than anyone when boldin gets frustrated he's useless. They also did a nice job blitzing and dropping on the TE at the right times.

[suitanim]

For starters Rice fumbled early and looked to lack confidence afterwards, as his coaches reenforced by not feeding him the ball. When MJD fumbled they came back out and ran 3 straight run plays to him, that's what you do to get em moving. Anyhow, the corners played tough physical all night and took some penalties because of it, but it frustrated Boldin and they have a rookie DB that out ran any of their deep stuff. And we know better than anyone when boldin gets frustrated he's useless. They also did a nice job blitzing and dropping on the TE at the right times.

Hmmmmmmm......sounds then like Cam knew what he was doing and A) The team didn't execute and B) The players are just scapegoating him.

This is deja vu all over again.

[HometownGal]

The Ravens didn't run the two-minute offense well because Flacco can't count to two.

Obviously not - he has only one eyebrow.

[Dino 6 Rings]

Love seeing them in fighting...just shows what big losers they.

[BigNastyDefense]

Love seeing them in fighting...just shows what big losers they.

Oh I know. If the offense shows up like that in Pittsburgh, there will be a mutiny on the plane ride back to Murdermore!

[Burghman]

For a team that was rated one the NFL’s best with a 4-1 start, things turned ugly awfully quickly Monday night for the Baltimore Ravens. And they stayed that way, with the Ravens losing 12-7 to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

The dog of an offensive performance was one of the worst in Ravens history and linebacker Terrell Suggs called the team out on its approach.

“It baffles me that Ray Rice only had seven carries,” linebacker Terrell Suggs said. He was off on Rice’s carries by one, but Suggs was on a roll. “This is a Pro Bowl running back we’re talking about. You’ve got to feed the horse. They fed their horse. We got to feed our horse. He’s a good guy. He wants the ball. I think we should feed him. Ray Rice is a phenomenal player. You’ve got to use your phenomenal players.”

Indeed. What a concept.

The Jags, with a rookie quarterback in Blaine Gabbert and a star running back in Maurice Jones-Drew, ran the ball. A lot. “They kept it simple,” Suggs said. “Jones-Drew had 30 carries.” And when they couldn’t do that, they kicked field goals.

Rice ended up gaining 28 yards on the night. Behind an offensive line that continues to struggle, quarterback Joe Flacco completed 21 of 38 passes (one was to himself) for 137 yards, one TD and one interception. His development may not be regressing, but it isn’t progressing, either. “How many catches did Anquan [Boldin] have?” Suggs asked. Answer: four, for 40 yards. “We have guys who can do phenomenal things. We’ve got to get them the ball. It’s that simple.”

read more

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...OaFM_blog.html

A lot like the Steelers, giving up on the run early.

[st33lersguy]

With a top-notch running back and an inconsistent QB who cannot carry a team to save his life, why would the Ravens run Rice only 8 times. Cam Cameron has to know by now that if you ask Joe Flacco to win a game for you, it will sorely backfire