William Gay Finally Coming into his own

[Steeldude]

Gay also got to cover Andre Roberts. Not Larry Fitzgerald.

true, but at least it's not mcfadden covering roberts

[tube517]

some of that has to do with lebeau admitting he played a very passive defense and also polamalu being out

I think the Lake effect is helping. Yeah, that was a passive defense but he was still not good enough to prevent the (now wasted) re-signing of BMac.

[Psycho Ward 86]

I think the Lake effect is helping. Yeah, that was a passive defense but he was still not good enough to prevent the (now wasted) re-signing of BMac.

what's your definition of passive? Because all i saw was our line getting consistent pressure and our DB's railing everybody at the line of scrimmage

[tube517]

what's your definition of passive? Because all i saw was our line getting consistent pressure and our DB's railing everybody at the line of scrimmage

We were talking about 2009, not yesterday's game.

[Godfather]

I need to learn to never question the coaches.

If it were up to the fans, Gay would have been run out of town a long time ago.

[Count Steeler]

I need to learn to never question the coaches.

If it were up to the fans, Gay would have been run out of town a long time ago.

Depends on the coach. Under Horton, not doing so hot. Lake effect, much improved. I think Gay and Taylor are the prime exhibits for the Lake effect. Their games have thrived and escalated under Carnell's watch. The young DBs looked VERY promising yesterday. I can just imagine what our practices are like, young desperate receivers fighting for jobs against young desperate DBs.

If the O Line can stay healthy and have some continuity, we are going to be very dangerous come January.

[Psycho Ward 86]

We were talking about 2009, not yesterday's game.

oh my bad

[Devilsdancefloor]

gay taylor and lewis are all playing well Allen even played well when he was in. in the big nickel mundy is play well as well. i give coach lake all the credit he is doing a damn good job

[Chidi29]

true, but at least it's not mcfadden covering roberts

I still really like McFadden.

I like all our DBs, really.

[katmandu]

gay taylor and lewis are all playing well Allen even played well when he was in. in the big nickel mundy is play well as well. i give coach lake all the credit he is doing a damn good job

X2.

I really hope this secondary stays "clicking" like it is right now!

[zulater]

I still really like McFadden.

I like all our DBs, really.

Really? Why?

I guess he's ok in run support, but he's substandard in zone and absolutely worthless in man on man coverage. My guess McFadden will not be in the NFL next season, and I'm willing to lay odds on it.

[Chidi29]

Really? Why?

I guess he's ok in run support, but he's substandard in zone and absolutely worthless in man on man coverage. My guess McFadden will not be in the NFL next season, and I'm willing to lay odds on it.

He's awesome versus the run and is a physical willing tackler, qualities I see in all our CBs.

[zulater]

He's awesome versus the run and is a physical willing tackler, qualities I see in all our CBs.

Move him to linebacker then, we'll be needing some in the next couple weeks.

Seriously McFadden can't cover well enough to be an NFL cornerback anymore. At his best (05-08) he was just ok, but age and injuries have sapped him of his mediocre best, and now he's completely below the line as far as cover skills go.

[Chidi29]

Move him to linebacker then, we'll be needing some in the next couple weeks.

Seriously McFadden can't cover well enough to be an NFL cornerback anymore. At his best (05-08) he was just ok, but age and injuries have sapped him of his mediocre best, and now he's completely below the line as far as cover skills go.

I wouldn't agree with that. Especially in this zone scheme where we play a lot of Cover 3 that doesn't take an Asomugha caliber corner to play. I didn't see McFadden play very poorly before he got hurt.

[tube517]

I wouldn't agree with that. Especially in this zone scheme where we play a lot of Cover 3 that doesn't take an Asomugha caliber corner to play. I didn't see McFadden play very poorly before he got hurt.

McFadden's been hurt since 2009 when he played with the Steelers West. He hasn't really been the same since.

[SteelerFanInStl]

Move him to linebacker then, we'll be needing some in the next couple weeks.

Seriously McFadden can't cover well enough to be an NFL cornerback anymore. At his best (05-08) he was just ok, but age and injuries have sapped him of his mediocre best, and now he's completely below the line as far as cover skills go.

He's not nearly big enough for a LBer but he might be able to switch to safety. I agree that his coverage skills are seriously lacking as a CB.

[zulater]

He's not nearly big enough for a LBer but he might be able to switch to safety. I agree that his coverage skills are seriously lacking as a CB.

Sorry I was just being flippant with Chidi, I don't really want McFadden anywhere other than the sidelines on Sunday.

[The Duke]

He's not nearly big enough for a LBer but he might be able to switch to safety. I agree that his coverage skills are seriously lacking as a CB.

hmm, not a crazy idea

though probably with his next team since I just don't see him here next year

[SteelerFanInStl]

Sorry I was just being flippant with Chidi, I don't really want McFadden anywhere other than the sidelines on Sunday.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I need to learn to never question the coaches.

If it were up to the fans, Gay would have been run out of town a long time ago.

Like the way that Kraig Urbik was run out of town by the coaches and is now starting in Buffalo? Or Jon Kuhn was run out of town?? Never be afraid to question, just make sure you have a suggestion to fix what you suggest is broken.

[tube517]

Like the way that Kraig Urbik was run out of town by the coaches and is now starting in Buffalo? Or Jon Kuhn was run out of town?? Never be afraid to question, just make sure you have a suggestion to fix what you suggest is broken.

Kuhn, by far, should've been kept. First ballot HOF'er

I wonder what they didn't like in Urbik versus Trai Essex?

[zulater]

http://www.timesonline.com/columnist...9bb30f31a.html


MOST DISAPPOINTING PLAYER
I know that Bryant McFadden was bothered with a hamstring injury for much of training camp and again early in the season. But he hasn't even been listed on the official injury report for several weeks now. Not only has McFadden lost his starting job at cornerback to William Gay, but he can't even get on the field.
Keenan Lewis is now the No. 3 corner and in the past few games, it's been rookie Cortez Allen who's often come in when the Steelers use six defensive backs.
McFadden is being paid $2.5 million this season. That's a lot of money the Steelers are paying for a guy who right now is their fifth option at cornerback.

[Count Steeler]

http://www.timesonline.com/columnist...9bb30f31a.html


MOST DISAPPOINTING PLAYER
I know that Bryant McFadden was bothered with a hamstring injury for much of training camp and again early in the season. But he hasn't even been listed on the official injury report for several weeks now. Not only has McFadden lost his starting job at cornerback to William Gay, but he can't even get on the field.
Keenan Lewis is now the No. 3 corner and in the past few games, it's been rookie Cortez Allen who's often come in when the Steelers use six defensive backs.
McFadden is being paid $2.5 million this season. That's a lot of money the Steelers are paying for a guy who right now is their fifth option at cornerback.

Fresh legs for the playoffs? Seriously, Lake must see that BMac just doesn't have what it takes anymore or why hold back players that have performed well, just because Bmac is making more money. He will be gone next year.

[Craic]

Willie Gay was mediocre at Nickel Corner last year,

I keep hearing this, but there is just nothing to bear this out as fact. In one game, against the Pats, he was burned for 2 TD's. The third one, he was in perfect position and Brady Grad. just made a great pass and catch. That was a mismatch that game.

Outside of that, he looked to be the best number 3 in the league, and better than a number of teams' number 2. I think a year back at Nickel to watch what happens and work on the things that he was lacking on the corner was perfect for him. Then with Lake coming in, well, maybe we have our true number 2 now. It'd be nice.

[suitanim]

http://www.timesonline.com/columnist...9bb30f31a.html


MOST DISAPPOINTING PLAYER
I know that Bryant McFadden was bothered with a hamstring injury for much of training camp and again early in the season. But he hasn't even been listed on the official injury report for several weeks now. Not only has McFadden lost his starting job at cornerback to William Gay, but he can't even get on the field.
Keenan Lewis is now the No. 3 corner and in the past few games, it's been rookie Cortez Allen who's often come in when the Steelers use six defensive backs.
McFadden is being paid $2.5 million this season. That's a lot of money the Steelers are paying for a guy who right now is their fifth option at cornerback.

At least he's not in grey sweats every week. It COULD be worse...

[86WARD]

Duce sweats?

[Iron Steeler]

I need to learn to never question the coaches.

If it were up to the fans, Gay would have been run out of town a long time ago.

yuppp i was one of those fans

[zulater]

At least he's not in grey sweats every week. It COULD be worse...

Mr Pocket pool himself.

[86WARD]

...or not...

[katmandu]

DID I PERHAPS SPEAK TOO SOON ????????

DAMIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!