Couple good plays today by Gay.... He's having a real good season so far IMHO.
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William Gay Finally Coming into his own
Couple good plays today by Gay.... He's having a real good season so far IMHO.
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Had a better day than Ike actually. Let's see if Gay redeems himself against the Patriots next week.
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As long as LeBeau doesn't put him on Gronkoski again....Originally Posted by Merchant
He won't keep Welker in check either, almost nobody can
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Gay also got to cover Andre Roberts. Not Larry Fitzgerald.
Gay has been playing better but, next week is the real test against the cheats. We need to create some take aways somehow someway.
next week is the real test
The whole key next week is whether or not we play the sit-back and force Troy to play conservatively in coverage most of the time. We know that doesn't work, but we always seem to do it anyway vs. the Patriots. Might as well try to be aggressive and try to force the game to our style, like we do against every other team in the NFL.
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I'll withhold judgment until after next week.
I think the "Coach Lake" effect is finally coming into play as these guys didn't have a chance for Lake to teach them due to the lockout... NO WAY these guys (DB's) remain average (or below avg.) if 1) their teachable 2) want to learn and 3) Lake is teaching them everything he knows.
Timmons better be on either Gronkowski or Aaron Hernandez for a large portion of the game. With Timmons doing that the majority of the time, we should be able to kind of neutralize one or the other, but we'll have to compensate for Timmons being in coverage so much. The linebackers better step it up when they blitz against New England.
no complaints here. but wait i'll until hernandez, gronkowski, welker and company before any praise
The Steelers have been quietly boasting a top-ranked pass D this year. We'll see if it's for real with the famed Pats O coming to town. Now we'll really see if there is a real difference from last year's mediocre unit. Taylor, Lewis, and Gay better be ready to go.
The Patriots have been doing most of their damage this year with Gronkowski and Hernandez and Welker in the slot. They're not a deep bomb passing team in the slightest. They're built to eat up cushions. Lebeau better not play his passive Defense, because it has never worked against the Pats.
The Ravens and the Ryan brothers are the only ones who have been able to take care of business against the Patriots in recent years. If our defensive backs are up to the challenge, that's exactly what we have to do. That's how the Jets beat the Patriots in the playoffs last year after a 45-3 beatdown in the regular season, same deal with Rob Ryan blowing them out with the Browns and almost beating them with the Cowboys right now (would have if they werent playing like conservative idiots the entire 4th quarter).
Yep. I'd rather they take the chance of possibly getting beat downfield while being aggressive rather than play the usual 10-yard cushion crap as Brady plays catch with his receivers underneath all night.
And another thing the Pats like to do is keep their RB's in the backfield making it look like they're in there blocking. They're not in there blocking and they never will. Woodhead or whoever else will sneak out of the backfield where Brady can dump it off to them for an easy gain.
I agree that I'd rather the Steelers risk getting burned by a big play than get eaten up underneath all night. Make the Pats earn their yards, don't give it to them.
The stuff from Ike Taylor today, I really liked that. I liked what he was trying to do, but he was getting too close to the Cards recievers for comfort for flags to be thrown. You know we can't have that in the National Goodell League.
I agree about Ike today. I don't think he had a bad game at all. He gave up that one pass to Fitz today, but what more could he have done to cover him better? Larry is just going to make some plays no matter what.
Gay HAS looked better this year. We'll find out next week how much better he really is. We need to play more man-to-man, less zone (which Brady has destroyed in the past), and blitz a lot. Gay will be responsible to lock-down the #2. We will see what he's made of.
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Seven games in now. Are we pretenders or contenders? Next 2 weeks will answer a lot of questions. Any return date for Harrison?
Here we go Steelers!
EXACTLY!!
For those who think he had a better game than Ike Taylor, maybe they should consider your statement.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Gay isn't playing any different as he was last year. He hasn't turned into Nnamdi Asomugha as a lockdown corner or Asante Samuel and has 5 INTs on the year.
It's only because the pass defense numbers look good does Gay get called as an improving player and we throw a blanket statement to the secondary.
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What about his play in 2009? He certainly doesn't look as bad as he did in 2009, when he started. Otherwise, the Steelers would not have brought back McFadden and pushed him back to the nickel.
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That's why I didn't say 2009.
But everyone killed Gay last year and he isn't playing differently than he is now.
Lets just say that Gay isnt playing any different than last year. I think he is looking better because he has been playing against QB's like
Kolb
Gabbert
Hasselback
Painter
Collins
Shaub
Tarvarias Jackson
Flacco
Not exactly the elite of the NFL. but, I think he is either playing closer to the WR or breaking on balls better. At least he is tackling guys for little or no gain on receptions, but who was he covering yesterday??? Andre Roberts??
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When I talk about Gay and any of our CBs not named Ike Taylor, I barely look at receptions allowed/yards given up. Because so much of that is a product of our off and zone coverage that you can't always "blame" a player for allowing a catch. Sometimes the offense is just taking what the defense is giving them (quick slant for example vs off coverage) or makes a good play (I won't be critical of Ike Taylor from yesterday because Fitzgerald is a monster).
I still see Gay as a great open field tackler, physical player, and willing to play the run. That has never changed and the reason why he continues to play as many snaps as he does.
Willie Gay was mediocre at Nickel Corner last year, and was pretty bad playing opposite Ike in 2009. He's back in the same position he was in 2009 and he isn't getting embarrassed in one way or another week after week.
No one is saying he's become a stud, but I haven't been hearing his name called on blown coverages resulting in big plays and missed tackles at times this year. So yes, he has improved.
If it weren't for T.J Douche being a choke artist and dropping a ball that hit him in the chest in the Baltimore playoff game, Gay would be known for dropping the ball giving the Ravens new life instead of ending the game.
We'll see Sunday. Big test for that "new and improved" pass D...
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Well I think Gay did a pretty good job... unless I missed something... ? Gay passes test against Brady ! The Lake era is here !
It's real. Willie Gay is the real deal this year. Did an excellent job yesterday.
The "Lake" Effect.
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It appears that the key was getting McFadden off the field.
as i have always stated, gay is better than mcfadden.
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some of that has to do with lebeau admitting he played a very passive defense and also polamalu being out
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