Tebow to Officially Replace Orton in Denver

[Nadroj 20]

The Denver Broncos have confirmed Tim Tebow will be their starting quarterback after the bye week in a game against the Miami Dolphins.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/70...ng-quarterback


This probably won't happen but in my opinion it would be amazing to see Denver trade Orton to Miami who is in desperate need of a QB right now, and then there could potentially be a Week 7 Tebow vs. Orton match-up!

But anyway, I do not see who people in Denver are trying to fool. Orton is a better QB then Tebow, the reason Orton has sucked is simple. The Broncos as a TEAM sucks! Its just easy to put all the blame on Orton and to assume Tebow will be sooooo much better, when in reality I do not see that being the case. What happened to Tebow being outplayed by both Orton AND Quinn this preseason?

sounds like to me this organization is being ran by the fans....

[86WARD]

This is a great move for the Broncos. Win/win for the organization. If TT does well, then they have themselves a QB, if TT does poorly, then they know what they have and can move on. They needed to give TT a shot for the organizations sake. There is a lot of money involved in this guys contract. It's a poor business decision to have it sitting on the bench and not knowing if the money is worth it.

As for Orton, yes, he gives the Broncos the best chance to win. But they have no chance. Why waste another season with Tebow sitting on the bench bringing up more question marks? Lol...

[Nadroj 20]

That is true but in a way that means they are already bailing on the season, or in another way of saying it...going all in with Tebow with not much to lose since "the season is over anyway".

If they wanted to make a move to win, I don't know if this is the best one, but only time will tell. I personally do not believe Tebow can be good enough to help them.

But i definitely see 86WARD's point...they better see what they have in a larger window of opportunity.

[43Hitman]

Isn't TT due 8M a year? I think now is the time to find out what you have in him, if their season is shot anyways, at least they'll know if they need to draft a QB or not. Heck, they may be bad enough to be in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.

[7willBheaven]

Isn't TT due 8M a year? I think now is the time to find out what you have in him, if their season is shot anyways, at least they'll know if they need to draft a QB or not. Heck, they may be bad enough to be in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.

I dont think its that much...he was selected in the 20s...picks that low dont make that kinda money right off the batt usually.

[BigNastyDefense]

John Fox and John Elway have no connection to Tebow other than the fact that he was on the roster when they took over their roles with the Broncos.

However, he did cost the Broncos a first round draft pick, and it would be stupid not to see what he can do in game situations. Some players practice like shit but when on the field on game day, they shine. They have to find out about Tebow before they cut or trade him.

Now, if he doesn't do anything all that impressive...or if they feel he's going to be too much of a project to get his mechanics right so he can succeed as an NFL quarterback, then they will at least know it for sure and the entire "what if" factor will be gone. There won't be the worry about him catching on with another team and becoming a dominating QB any time soon.

[GodfatherofSoul]

Orton's career as a starter anywhere in the league should be over. That guy looked shell-shocked. That one pass where he had a simple 10 yard out pass on a left-side rollout and he almost threw it straight into a defender? It looked like a girl throw where you don't have a clue where it's going, it was that bad. He's got Kordell Disease without the jaw rash. Can't handle playing under the big lights.

[ALLD]

Tebow sells shirts. That is all.

[oneforthetoe]

This is a great move for the Broncos. Win/win for the organization. If TT does well, then they have themselves a QB, if TT does poorly, then they know what they have and can move on. They needed to give TT a shot for the organizations sake. There is a lot of money involved in this guys contract. It's a poor business decision to have it sitting on the bench and not knowing if the money is worth it.

As for Orton, yes, he gives the Broncos the best chance to win. But they have no chance. Why waste another season with Tebow sitting on the bench bringing up more question marks? Lol...

This is what I was thinking. I don't think they want him to fail, obviously. However, if he does fail, it certainly cleanup their mess.

Starting against the "fins" should help.

[st33lersguy]

They should give Tebow a chance, and see what this team can do. He played well at the end of last year. Besides Kyle Orton is a very mediocre QB

[suitanim]

Bronco's are now officially the frontrunners in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.

[steelersfanman92]

Bronco's are now officially the frontrunners in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.

I strongly disagree with that, just look at the different way the team plays when he is in. There is no question the team plays with a different energy with Tebow instead of Orton. He has played well in every game he has recieved significant playing time just look at the game against the Texans last year when they where down by 24 and he almost brought them all the way back. I am not saying that he is going to be great or even necessarily that good but what Tebow has shown so far it is hard to say that he is not going to play well.

[SteelerFanInStl]

Isn't Tebow the only QB on the Broncos that's signed after this season? The Broncos suck this year so they might as well see what they have in Tebow.

[steelreserve]

Why do people think Kyle Orton is such a big deal? He's proved for five or six years that he's just an OK quarterback. The kind of QB where if you have a good team around him already, he'll be just good enough to not lose the game for you. He's not going to help the Dolphins; I don't see him as the answer to anyone's problems beyond being a stopgap guy who eats up minutes when you don't have a long-term answer at QB. He would've been great, for example, on the Vikings last year, probably the Colts this year, maybe the 49ers if Alex Smith hadn't somehow gotten his shit together. But he's not going to carry a team; if your team was just OK before, add Orton and it will still be an OK team. If it was a good team, with Orton it will be an OK team. If it was a bad team, it will still be bad. There's a definite role for him in the league, but it's more like a Jon Kitna or Ty Detmer role, not a sought-after starting QB role.

[stillers4me]

Wasn't Tebow 3rd in the depth chart and there were trade rumors...like about a month ago??

I guess the billboards worked.

[HometownGal]

Orton is and has been hot and cold through most of his career and you never know which KO you're going to see on any given game day. Might as well give Tebow the opportunity to see what he can bring to the table.

[Devilsdancefloor]

I really think this might be if he plays well enough, then maybe this is a trade bait situation for another team during the draft or before the trade deadline

[Godfather]

Tim Tebow.

[43Hitman]

I dont think its that much...he was selected in the 20s...picks that low dont make that kinda money right off the batt usually.

Yeah he's only getting 8M this year, I misheard a report earlier this season. Here are the details of his contract.

The contract details on Broncos rookie quarterback Tim Tebow​ show his five-year deal really is worth $9.7125 million, not the $11.25 million the industry reports, according to a union source.

The difference is a one-time playing time bonus of $1.5375 million that the Players Association counts because it's "easy to earn." Almost all first rounders hit the one-time playing bonus, but Jarvis Moss​ and Brady Quinn from the 2007 draft are among those who have yet to hit their one-timers.

Tebow will be well on his way to his first NFL million on Friday, when the Broncos pay him a $975,000 advance, which essentially will be counted as a signing bonus for prorated salary cap reasons.

Some details on the Tebow




deal: Base salary

2010: $1.295 million (fully guaranteed)

2011: $1.618.75 million (fully guaranteed)

2012: $1.942.5 million (fully guaranteed)

2013: $2.266.75 million (fully guaranteed)

2014: $2.590.5 million ($567,500 guaranteed)

Advance/Signing bonus

$975,000 on Friday (salary reduced to $325,000)

$6.275 million due 29 days after start of 2011 league year. Typically season starts March 1, but it's written this way in case work stoppage delays start of season. (Salaries from 2011-14 reduced to offset advance)

http://www.denverpost.com/broncosheadlines/ci_15667056

[suitanim]

The more he plays, the worse his stat line will be. This falls under the old adage of the backup QB always being the most popular player on a losing team. They come in off the bench, spark a little fire, and then end up doing worse than the starter, who will then regain HIS status as the most popular player on the team while he rides the bench.

[zulater]

The more he plays, the worse his stat line will be. This falls under the old adage of the backup QB always being the most popular player on a losing team. They come in off the bench, spark a little fire, and then end up doing worse than the starter, who will then regain HIS status as the most popular player on the team while he rides the bench.

My guess is that you're right. But boy it sure would be fun if Tebow proves all his critics wrong. Me included

[suitanim]

I was doing my fantasy line-up or something, and there was a picture of Tebow throwing the ball. It was all right there: The weird short-arm thing he does, the big wind-up. It's a funky throwing motion, and he's not accurate. A slow release just compounds those problems.

[Nadroj 20]

Why do people think Kyle Orton is such a big deal? He's proved for five or six years that he's just an OK quarterback. The kind of QB where if you have a good team around him already, he'll be just good enough to not lose the game for you. He's not going to help the Dolphins; I don't see him as the answer to anyone's problems beyond being a stopgap guy who eats up minutes when you don't have a long-term answer at QB. He would've been great, for example, on the Vikings last year, probably the Colts this year, maybe the 49ers if Alex Smith hadn't somehow gotten his shit together. But he's not going to carry a team; if your team was just OK before, add Orton and it will still be an OK team. If it was a good team, with Orton it will be an OK team. If it was a bad team, it will still be bad. There's a definite role for him in the league, but it's more like a Jon Kitna or Ty Detmer role, not a sought-after starting QB role.

It isn't that he is overly great, my point is that I do not think Tebow will be good at all and that with what they had at the beginning of this season. Orton was their best option. The first 8-10 games of the season last year Orton did very well.

[BigNastyDefense]

The thing about Tebow is his mechanics. They are shit. Worked great in high school and college, but in the NFL to be a successful QB you have to have good mechanics.

Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Johnny Unitas, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Ben Roethlisberger.....they all have/had good mechanics. Yeah, some of them could throw funky when needed and still make the play (Bradshaw, Roethlisberger, Young, Favre) but they had good mechanics.

I can't think of a QB where all the talk before he came into the NFL that his mechanics needed fixed who was successful. The Texans tried to fix David Carr's mechanics, and he has been a huge bust (I don't think he woulda been good if they could have protected him). Same for Vince Young.

If you don't have the mechanics before you get to the NFL, you never will.

[O'Malley]

Tebow with his "style" will only make it a few games before he gets blasted again and is out for the season.. He is a big guy but IMO he is a softy.. He got hit by a DB and got hurt.. Can't wait until a linebacker gets him in his crosshairs... I don't know why I dislike him so much.. Maybe because all the media hype.. They had a NFL Live "special" and the whole program was about Tim Tebow Tim Tebow Tim Tebow and Tony Romo... If they were half as good as the hype they would be the best ever.. But reality is they are at best mediocre.. That coupled with the lack of weapons the Broncos posses, you could put any QB on that roster and they would fail... Tebow is not the answer, but he'll sell the hell out of some jerseys... I think that thin air has got too the fans of Denver, or they have the lowest football IQ of any fanbase.... They will get their wish and Tebow will play, with the same if not worse results they got from Orton... I think the happiest player on the Broncos right now is Orton for not having to step on the field and get embarrassed the rest of the year...

[86WARD]

The thing about Tebow is his mechanics. They are shit. Worked great in high school and college, but in the NFL to be a successful QB you have to have good mechanics.

Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Johnny Unitas, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Ben Roethlisberger.....they all have/had good mechanics. Yeah, some of them could throw funky when needed and still make the play (Bradshaw, Roethlisberger, Young, Favre) but they had good mechanics.

I can't think of a QB where all the talk before he came into the NFL that his mechanics needed fixed who was successful. The Texans tried to fix David Carr's mechanics, and he has been a huge bust (I don't think he woulda been good if they could have protected him). Same for Vince Young.

If you don't have the mechanics before you get to the NFL, you never will.

Kerry Collins had awful mechanics before he was drafted.

Thing about Tebow's mechanics is its almost everything. Its not just his throwing motion or where he holds the ball, it's both of those, plus his base is too wide making him even shorter in the pocket, he struggles taking the snap from center. Pretty much an all around mess.

However, the broncos aren't going anywhere, Orton ain't gonna be there next season, mine as well throw Tebow in there, see what he has from a ball players perspective and hope for Andrew Luck...

[BigNastyDefense]

Also, if Tebow fails or shows that he is that far away....I do expect Fox to pull Tebow and insert Quinn. He needs to know by the end of this season if there is a QB of the future on this roster. We all know Orton isn't. Tebow cost the team a first round draft pick, so he's getting his chance. Quinn is a former first rounder, so if Tebow doesn't work he'll also get a chance.

In the end though, I don't think any of these three will be Broncos next season.

[O'Malley]

Sacked 7 times 3 fumbles and a pick six... He's going to be something special.

[suitanim]

Sacked 7 times 3 fumbles and a pick six... He's going to be something special.

Thing is, when he washes out at QB, he'll still make a Helluva an H-back. Plus he can throw a little which equals some trickery. But this is exactly what the Bronco's deserve for selecting a 4th rd FB talent as a first rd QB.

[GodfatherofSoul]

Didn't watch the game, he was getting rocked by the Lions front 4 in the highlights. Hard to tell how much of his sucking was from getting beat up all day. Might as well give him his 5 games or so to evaluate and see if he improves. If not, bench him and give Quinn his shot. I'm rooting for him to succeed but it says a lot that he was demoted to 3rd string based on camp performance.