Won't be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

[Butch]

And what I saw was a total team let down from all of our play makers including Troy and Ben for the 1st 3 weeks. Look at the turn over ratio or for that matter the number of 100 yard rushers we have had against us. You stated that Hines is standing in Sanders way, but I see Hines as still being more valuable than Sanders and earning a spot. Sanders is a great return man and will definitely have his moments to shine, but for now Hines is a proven commodity and has proven his worth more times than not.

2 touchdowns in one game and one was a great leaping catch to avoid a tackle!!! Guess I'm not ready to put Hines on life support just yet. Looking forward to another great week for Hines this week!!! Go Hines!!!

[zulater]

Here's my revised after week 10 wont be a Steeler in 2012 list.

Dan Sepuleveda. 3 times on the IR in 4 years. No punter is worth that, sorry Dan, you're a pretty good punter, but no one's that good.

Aaron Smith. I say this with heavy heart, one of the best and classiest Steelers ever, but his body is telling him it's time to retire.

Hines Ward. Same as with Aaron, an all time great, full of heart, and a winner in every sense of the word. But it's time for him to make way for the young 'uns.

Chris Hoke. Still has value, but has been moved down the depth chart below McClendon, not likely to make the team next year.

Trai Essex. Only made the team this year because the Steelers got into a desperate situation, I don't think he'll be so lucky again.

Dennis Dixon. Just not an NFL qb. Might make a good backup for Tebow. Really! Think about it, hes one of the few that could make that silly college offense work besides Tebow. Timmy goes down, you wouldn't have to change a thing.

Charlie Batch. Good career, but time to hang 'em up.

Shaun Suisham. Time for an upgrade.

James Farrior. 15 years is long enough, go out on top, and while the choice is still yours Potsie.

Bryant McFadden. Twilight of a mediocre career, Bryant has had some moments, but his time is nearly up.

[tube517]

Here's my revised after week 10 wont be a Steeler in 2012 list.

Dan Sepuleveda. 3 times on the IR in 4 years. No punter is worth that, sorry Dan, you're a pretty good punter, but no one's that good.

Aaron Smith. I say this with heavy heart, one of the best and classiest Steelers ever, but his body is telling him it's time to retire.

Hines Ward. Same as with Aaron, an all time great, full of heart, and a winner in every sense of the word. But it's time for him to make way for the young 'uns.

Chris Hoke. Still has value, but has been moved down the depth chart below McClendon, not likely to make the team next year.

Trai Essex. Only made the team this year because the Steelers got into a desperate situation, I don't think he'll be so lucky again.

Dennis Dixon. Just not an NFL qb. Might make a good backup for Tebow. Really! Think about it, hes one of the few that could make that silly college offense work besides Tebow. Timmy goes down, you wouldn't have to change a thing.

Charlie Batch. Good career, but time to hang 'em up.

Shaun Suisham. Time for an upgrade.

James Farrior. 15 years is long enough, go out on top, and while the choice is still yours Potsie.

Bryant McFadden. Twilight of a mediocre career, Bryant has had some moments, but his time is nearly up.

Zu, you just did all Whis' dirty work. Presenting your new Arizona Cardinals!

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Here's my revised after week 10 wont be a Steeler in 2012 list.

Dan Sepuleveda. 3 times on the IR in 4 years. No punter is worth that, sorry Dan, you're a pretty good punter, but no one's that good.

Aaron Smith. I say this with heavy heart, one of the best and classiest Steelers ever, but his body is telling him it's time to retire.

Hines Ward. Same as with Aaron, an all time great, full of heart, and a winner in every sense of the word. But it's time for him to make way for the young 'uns.

Chris Hoke. Still has value, but has been moved down the depth chart below McClendon, not likely to make the team next year.

Trai Essex. Only made the team this year because the Steelers got into a desperate situation, I don't think he'll be so lucky again.

Dennis Dixon. Just not an NFL qb. Might make a good backup for Tebow. Really! Think about it, hes one of the few that could make that silly college offense work besides Tebow. Timmy goes down, you wouldn't have to change a thing.

Charlie Batch. Good career, but time to hang 'em up.

Shaun Suisham. Time for an upgrade.

James Farrior. 15 years is long enough, go out on top, and while the choice is still yours Potsie.

Bryant McFadden. Twilight of a mediocre career, Bryant has had some moments, but his time is nearly up.

Nice revision. Maybe add Mewelde Moore too.

[ALLD]

Moore is good for about a half-dozen clutch plays per season. Just when all seems hopeless, Ben gets the ball to Mewelde and the light shines bright.

[zulater]

Nice revision. Maybe add Mewelde Moore too.

Yeah good chance there, but he is having a really good season, he really fits that role they have for him perfectly. I think he's about 50/50 for coming back.

speaking of which here's my 50/50 club for Steelers that may or may not go next year.

Casey Hampton, a lot of money for limited production. Still he's a top level nose tackle, but for how much longer?

Byron Leftwich. Is a good back up for Ben, only he's never healthy. I think it's time the Steelers moved in another direction for Ben's backup.

Jonathan Dwyer. I just get the sense the Steelers have had their fill of him.

Chris Kemoeatu. Time to get a stud free agent guard. Foster's ok if he's your worst starter, but having two inferior guards just isn't getting it done.

[Moose]

I'm in agreement with a few other's here on keeping Hines. He is still one of the best. If he can touch the ball he will usually catch it, He's not afraid to lay his body out for a catch. He's made extreme hard catches and he's made plays to extend a drive and TD. True, he's not a youngster, but he plays as well, if not better, than most right now. For all he's done for the Steeler's it would only be right, and respectful, to keep him in the franchise...either as player or coach. Hines, in my belief, is the type of man and player to step down when he feels it's the best for the team. I'm sure he doesn't like sitting on the sideline, but I'm also sure if there is a player on the team that can get us a WIN he would agree to play that player in his spot. If we win a SB this year, I would beat Hines retires. So much for my Hines speech---LOL. Now, as far as some players to give walking papers to.. I agree with sending to the pavement- J. Scott, Smith, Farrior, Kemo, and I'd have to look real hard on what CB to KEEP !! They are all pathetic !!

[Steeldude]

week 1 is still the same as week 10 in terms of who to let go.

[Steeldude]

Chris Hoke. Still has value, but has been moved down the depth chart below McClendon, not likely to make the team next year.

where did you read this? i haven't heard of hoke being 3rd string.

[zulater]

where did you read this? i haven't heard of hoke being 3rd string.

Been in all the papers, Hoke was a healthy scratch each of the past two weeks I believe.

[zulater]

week 1 is still the same as week 10 in terms of who to let go.

I think Jonathan Scott has probably proved me wrong, at least in the role of roving sub he has value. He never should have been a starter though.

[XxKnightxX]

You Know if were gonna get rid of Lefty. This may sound crazy but we should take a mid to late round choice on a QB prospect for next year, maybe one like on Kirk Cousins . I also hope the Steelers draft a future NT.

[suitanim]

You Know if were gonna get rid of Lefty. This may sound crazy but we should take a mid to late round choice on a QB prospect for next year, maybe one like on Kirk Cousins . I also hope the Steelers draft a future NT.

Oh, I don't think Cousins is an NFL prospect at all...watch the tape vs. Ohio State.

[The Duke]

You Know if were gonna get rid of Lefty. This may sound crazy but we should take a mid to late round choice on a QB prospect for next year, maybe one like on Kirk Cousins . I also hope the Steelers draft a future NT.

not crazy at all. They HAVE to draft a backup QB next year, and it's one of the deepest QB crops in quite a while

wouldn't mind even if they used a 4th. So long as they don't draft the next Dixon- Jacoby Harris

[Psycho Ward 86]

I think if Baron Batch lives up to the hype from before his injury, then Moore for sure is gone

[XxKnightxX]

not crazy at all. They HAVE to draft a backup QB next year, and it's one of the deepest QB crops in quite a while

wouldn't mind even if they used a 4th. So long as they don't draft the next Dixon- Jacoby Harris

As a Miami Fan (dont judge me) I am so happy that his time in that school is over. He was horrible. he might as well become a WR for any shot at playing in the NFL. And Im thinking Kirk Cousins because Andrew luck will be gone and so will Matt Barkley. The others I can think are cousins, Kellen Moore, and Weeden but hes as old as Ben and he throws like hes pitching and I dont think he can even peak anymore.

[The Duke]

As a Miami Fan (dont judge me) I am so happy that his time in that school is over. He was horrible. he might as well become a WR for any shot at playing in the NFL. And Im thinking Kirk Cousins because Andrew luck will be gone and so will Matt Barkley. The others I can think are cousins, Kellen Moore, and Weeden but hes as old as Ben and he throws like hes pitching and I dont think he can even peak anymore.

the amazing thing is he's lasted four seasons there. Someone had to be fired over that one

Moore is a favorite of mine. Really wouldn't mind him learning from Ben.

Don't know much about Weeden though, nor that he was that old either. Gotta find out more on him

[oneforthetoe]

Since we our in a bye it is a good time to reexamine this. Farrior has clearly already been partially replaced. I don't really see much difference between and Farrior and Foote. Certainly not enough of a difference to make up for James' salary and age.

If you would have told me at the beginning of the year, I would have never have thought how far down the depth chart Hines would have fallen. i still think he has value, but this really could be it. So sad.

I am not as convinced as others that Mendy will (should) be let go (traded). Still, it would not be a shocker.

[XxKnightxX]

the amazing thing is he's lasted four seasons there. Someone had to be fired over that one

Moore is a favorite of mine. Really wouldn't mind him learning from Ben.

Don't know much about Weeden though, nor that he was that old either. Gotta find out more on him

Weeden is 28 and was a minor league pitcher for a couple of years before enrolling into college finally. Hes a mature guy and literally a man playing amongst boys. Hes a streaky QB though, the more completions he gets and hes on absolute fire. But I dont know if hes gonna gather a lot of interest. He may get it as a back up, but not a franchise QB.

[pepsyman1]

Since we our in a bye it is a good time to reexamine this. Farrior has clearly already been partially replaced. I don't really see much difference between and Farrior and Foote. Certainly not enough of a difference to make up for James' salary and age.

If you would have told me at the beginning of the year, I would have never have thought how far down the depth chart Hines would have fallen. i still think he has value, but this really could be it. So sad..

To be honest, I have been quite impressed with how well Foote has played the last couple of weeks. He's been in the middle of everything pretty consistently. I like him and Timmons as an interior tandem as well as anyone else we have.

Hines always has value for our offense and he knows how to get open for Ben when we need a first. Even if he's down to number 4, I say he stays another year if he chooses too.

BMac out, Sepulveda out, Aaron Smith, Farrior, and Hampton should retire, Gay I hate but I don't think they're gonna let him go, Scott and Essex should be left by the side of the highway

[Steeldude]

I think Jonathan Scott has probably proved me wrong, at least in the role of roving sub he has value. He never should have been a starter though.

i agree. he's ok as a benchwarmer. hopefully starks will be back next year.