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    Won't be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Jonathan Scott.I don't even want him as a backup/

    Hines Ward. Hope you get your 1000th catch this year. But as of now you're standing in the way of Emanuel Sanders.

    Casey Hampton. Big men get old in a hurry, Casey's looking real old at the moment.

    Chris Hoke. Nice run for an undrafted free agent, but time to get on with your life's work.

    Aaron Smith. One of the all time good guys, and the best 3-4 DE in Steelers history. But it's the last year of his contract, and I see little chance the Steelers will want him back.

    James Farrior. A truly great Steeler, but he's lost two steps, time to go in a different direction.
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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    What's Hoke's salary? I doubt they let go both him and Hampton

    everything else seems about right

    I know MeMo is playing well, but if Batch comes back healthy next year he'll probably bump him off the roster too
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    Smith, Hoke, Hampton, Kiesel, Farrior, Foote, Scott, Ward, Colon. Out of the top of my head.

    Paying way too much for these guys who are hitting the wall. Nothing against them, but it happens to us all and it was going to happen sometime one way or another. I'm sorry, but it happens. Most of the Linemen need to go too. This core of O-Linemen (besides Pouncey) aren't getting any better. Gilbert I see some potential in, but everyone else can vamoose. Arians and Lebeau I can see hanging it up after this year and Butler will step in.

    The Steelers better start serving youth before they fall by the way side and set themselves back for the decade. Even if they didn't look bad, big changes are coming. I hope for their sake.

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    I think we will have seen the last of BMAC, Cotchery, and Arians too.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    i'd bench aaron smith. last year he wasn't playing and we were beasts against the run so maybe he's the problem?

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by JayC View Post
    i'd bench aaron smith. last year he wasn't playing and we were beasts against the run so maybe he's the problem?
    I would imagine that as soon as Keisel gets back into the lineup Smith will be benched.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by steeldevil View Post
    I would imagine that as soon as Keisel gets back into the lineup Smith will be benched.
    He's injured so that may not even be a choice.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    He's injured so that may not even be a choice.
    Yes I meant when Keisel gets back from his injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steeldevil View Post
    Yes I meant when Keisel gets back from his injury.
    I was referring to Aaron Smith's injury. There may be no choice but to replace him.



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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Farrior, Smith, Hoke, Ward, Moore, Gay, Foster.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Jonathon Scott, Aaron Smith, Brett Keisel, Larry Foote, Willie Colon, Chris Kemoeatu

    I would say those guys should all be released the first day it can possibly happen.

    Hampton's problem is that he's constantly being cut block, and I am not sure what can be done about that. The NFL is saying it's legal, and there's really no way to combat it.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    The last five you mentioned I would like to see retire as Steelers.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by steelerdude15 View Post
    The last five you mentioned I would like to see retire as Steelers.
    So would I. And honestly, I can see all of them retiring after this season, especially if it's made known that the Steelers are going with a youth movement and a lot of those guys will be backups.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Forgot about William Gay, he should have been cut this year

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Hasn't Gay actually been playing well? I see him in on a lot of tackles, and I don't recall him getting burned yet. Maybe Swan is helping the Dbacks...

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by Pristas View Post
    Hasn't Gay actually been playing well? I see him in on a lot of tackles, and I don't recall him getting burned yet. Maybe Swan is helping the Dbacks...
    Don't need to pass on the Steelers when you can just run the ball. Once we get to the passing teams like the *Patriots, you will see the true weaknesses of the pass D exploited.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    Don't need to pass on the Steelers when you can just run the ball. Once we get to the passing teams like the *Patriots, you will see the true weaknesses of the pass D exploited.
    Exactly

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Been dreading this day for years but I completely agree with everything on this thread. I still have faith in Ziggy and I hope Heyward pans out. If we can get younger on the line and add a few pieces to the secondary I think we will be fine. Timmons and Woodley will pick up sooner or later. Harrison will be ok yet I think. If our Oline would stay healthy and we could add a few pieces to that then I think we would be ok.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Ward, J.Scott, Kemoeatu, Essex, Smith, Foote, Farrior, Gay.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    We should get rid of Mendenhall. Bad attitude and poor production. Keep MeMo, Batch, and Redman.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather View Post
    We should get rid of Mendenhall. Bad attitude and poor production. Keep MeMo, Batch, and Redman.
    How much longer is he under contract?


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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather View Post
    We should get rid of Mendenhall. Bad attitude and poor production. Keep MeMo, Batch, and Redman.
    And Dwyer



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    Hines Ward. Hope you get your 1000th catch this year. But as of now you're standing in the way of Emanuel Sanders.
    BULLCRAP!!!

    Emanuel Sanders is the only one standing in the way of Emanuel Sanders.

    No receiver does what Hines does...not one!!! He gets open down field on third and forever and wheather it's a good pass or a crappy pass he simply makes the play. He has a knack for getting open over the middle and can take a hit as well as he dishes!!!

    I can't believe how many of you have turned your backs on Hines...he can play on my team any time and for as long as he desires...He's earned that much!!!

    Hines Ward Forever!!!

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by Butch View Post
    BULLCRAP!!!

    Emanuel Sanders is the only one standing in the way of Emanuel Sanders.

    No receiver does what Hines does...not one!!! He gets open down field on third and forever and wheather it's a good pass or a crappy pass he simply makes the play. He has a knack for getting open over the middle and can take a hit as well as he dishes!!!

    I can't believe how many of you have turned your backs on Hines...he can play on my team any time and for as long as he desires...He's earned that much!!!

    Hines Ward Forever!!!

    Well stated.

    I don't think Hines has fallen off that much. With how badly the O-line has been playing, the only thing we can do on offense is throw home run balls to Wallace.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by Butch View Post
    BULLCRAP!!!

    Emanuel Sanders is the only one standing in the way of Emanuel Sanders.

    No receiver does what Hines does...not one!!! He gets open down field on third and forever and wheather it's a good pass or a crappy pass he simply makes the play. He has a knack for getting open over the middle and can take a hit as well as he dishes!!!

    I can't believe how many of you have turned your backs on Hines...he can play on my team any time and for as long as he desires...He's earned that much!!!

    Hines Ward Forever!!!
    Unfortunately, Hines can't play forever. You and other fans are simply going to have to come to grips with that. It's not turning our backs on him, it's dealing with reality.








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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Terminator View Post
    Unfortunately, Hines can't play forever. You and other fans are simply going to have to come to grips with that. It's not turning our backs on him, it's dealing with reality.
    I know I'm not on here as much as I would like to be but I just read this.

    I wonder if you feel like reconsidering this statement after his performance today??? Hines is and always has been Mr. Dependable and today we got to see it in action. The young guys were making mistakes while Hines was making plays!!!

    IMHO you and other fans need to seperate your opinion from facts.

    As you stated,Hines won't play forever, but he's playing now and I for one am damn happy about it.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by Butch View Post
    I know I'm not on here as much as I would like to be but I just read this.

    I wonder if you feel like reconsidering this statement after his performance today??? Hines is and always has been Mr. Dependable and today we got to see it in action. The young guys were making mistakes while Hines was making plays!!!

    IMHO you and other fans need to seperate your opinion from facts.

    As you stated,Hines won't play forever, but he's playing now and I for one am damn happy about it.
    No, I'm going to stand by my statement. Hines cannot play forever, and that is a fact. It's still dealing with reality. Having said that, he played his ass off today, and I'm damn happy about it.








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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Terminator View Post
    No, I'm going to stand by my statement. Hines cannot play forever, and that is a fact. It's still dealing with reality. Having said that, he played his ass off today, and I'm damn happy about it.
    Sure he won't play forever but it seems to me you and a few others here believe he's no longer able to produce enough to earn his way on this team and that to me is turning your backs on him. If that is not your stand then I appologize for misunderstanding. If it is your intent then I strongly disagree with you.

    BTW I think it's funny how the one player on this team who is known for his blue collar attitude and work ethic is now catching it from the fickle fan base by those who are calling for his release next year. If Hines hangs it up because he decides to then I will deal with it but not before that!!!
    Last edited by Butch; 10-09-2011 at 04:14 PM. Reason: added a but to my last statement.

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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by Butch View Post
    BULLCRAP!!!

    Emanuel Sanders is the only one standing in the way of Emanuel Sanders.

    No receiver does what Hines does...not one!!! He gets open down field on third and forever and wheather it's a good pass or a crappy pass he simply makes the play. He has a knack for getting open over the middle and can take a hit as well as he dishes!!!

    I can't believe how many of you have turned your backs on Hines...he can play on my team any time and for as long as he desires...He's earned that much!!!

    Hines Ward Forever!!!
    Hines barely went through the motions on running plays this past Sunday. I don't think he made a block of significance all game. When you only make one catch, that's not cutting it.

    I love Hines for what he's done for this team, but this aint the Supreme Court Butch, no lifetime appointments in the NFL. As soon as you don't earn your keep, you go.
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    Re: Wont be a Steeler in 2012, or at least shouldn't be

    Quote Originally Posted by zulater View Post
    Hines barely went through the motions on running plays this past Sunday. I don't think he made a block of significance all game. When you only make one catch, that's not cutting it.

    I love Hines for what he's done for this team, but this aint the Supreme Court Butch, no lifetime appointments in the NFL. As soon as you don't earn your keep, you go.
    No Zulater it aint the Supreme court...Hines actually earns his paychecks!!! I don't know about you Zulater but I was damn happy to have old man Hines out there leaping past a defender to score a Touchdown and making plays better than some of the younger guys. 2 scores for the old man is cutting it and Hines ABSOLUTELY BELONGS on this team!!!

    For what it's worth Saunders had his moments too, I think there's enough room for both of 'em. Just don't throw Hines to the dogs too soon. Just sayin'

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