All those Game Plans were great and what ever process they used to develop those, should be used on a weekly basis. The other weeks though...
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All those Game Plans were great and what ever process they used to develop those, should be used on a weekly basis. The other weeks though...
I think that's what they're trying to do; create a defense that is so flexible that it doesn't have an identity. They can just 'morph' into a defense that is tailored to defeat whatever opponent they're facing that week.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
It worked a few times this season, failed miserably other times. Whoever is responsible for it should be given the credit and the blame. I'm just curious who you folks believe that person is.
Who the hell knows. Do you have insight as to who is building each game plan? Hey even a blind squirrel can find a nut every once in a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoSlash27
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IDK lots of folks say we shouldn't guess or comment on something we don't know. I can't imagine anyone on this board has any idea who is building the game plans each week but I would suspect a big part of the Carolina game was typical road team play on a Thursday, and a small notice to the fact that the mighty Panthers went on a horrendous slide because Newton played hurtQuote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
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No, that wasn't the case at all. The defensive scheme against Carolina was deliberate, and a radical departure from preceding and subsequent Steelers defenses. The Panthers were using 3 running threats to keep defenses in a reactive scheme, and it was working up until the Steelers game.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCSteeler
The Steelers *intentionally* over- committed on Newton personally, largely ignoring the other threats even when it burned them. The strategy was brilliant and simple: If Newton presented himself as a possible running threat, nail him... even if you're not sure he has the ball. Rinse and repeat as necessary until the Panthers get the hint and are forced to protect him. Once that happens, the Panthers are forced into a conventional scheme where Newton isn't so hot.
This isn't a mode that the Steelers operated in before (or after) this one specific game. Likewise the other games mentioned upstream. The Steelers defense "morphed" to control the opposing offense, showing schemes that weren't on film and couldn't be planned for.
Somebody somewhere was saying "here is how we beat these effers" and then spent the week practicing a defense that wasn't in the play book. I don't know if that "somebody" was Tomlin or Butler, but whoever it was deserves credit for the successes as well as blame for the failures.
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Originally Posted by GoSlash27
That's just it, no one knows because both Tomlin & Butler are involved and they haven't said who is doing what.
But are they though? Is Tomlin involved in the strategic planning of defensive schemes and coaching players in their execution? I haven't read anything suggesting that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoes
From what I've read Butler is involved with the game planning and does some play calling but Tomlin can and does overrule him in critical situations. This could be the problem with the defense. There are other questions also like is someone else involved in the game planing with Butler? What plays does Tomlin call? And why would you overrule your DC unless you didn't have complete trust in him? And why would you keep him as DC?Quote:
Originally Posted by GoSlash27
I’m still convinced that they don’t always scheme for a specific team.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoSlash27
I think they scheme specifically for teams they deem a threat, which on its face sounds absurd, but then you look at their track record and it makes perfect sense. Which points to arrogance. And we've all seen this team in the last five years go out of their way to be arrogant. It shows on the field and in interviews with players and coaches. I don't know who the problem resides with as I have no knowledge of the internal workings of the Steelers, but the buck should stop at Tomlin and ultimately with Rooney. The fact, in my opinion, that they don't scheme specifically for EVERY team is just ridiculous and is simply not to the standard we expect, especially when we were told by this coaching staff that they would do just that. I really thought that this shit show would be flushed with the season, but it appears to me that there is a plugged pipe somewhere and now all the shit is backing up on the floor. Someone hand Tomlin a mop.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD