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Did you follow football before recently becoming a Pats fan? If so who, just curious?
I'd also ask you to name 5 players on the team and 1 player before 2001, but you'll probably just look that up before replying anyway
Born and raised in Boston. Been going to games since they played at Braves field, and Harvard Stadium. John Hannah, Larry Eisenhower, Ben Coates, Babe Parilli, Andy Johnson.Quote:
Originally Posted by st33lersguy
The real question is, where are you from, and when did you start following the Steelers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwB8ph7VAXw
http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/...alltime-roster
Quick go-to for any Pats fan trying to pull out past names and I have been following the Steelers since I was a kid, born and raised in a family of steeler fans
Does that entitle you to food stamps?Quote:
Originally Posted by st33lersguy
No it doesn't actually but thank you for your concernQuote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
Of course this guy is a Chowder. They're the only ones baggie enough to post a pic of "The Tom" and "The Hood". Enjoy it now pal. When Billie and the kid retire and your franchise goes back in the tank you'll be jumping back on the Steelers bandwagon. I'll personally save you a spot.
Is that chowder or chowda?Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
You got it. Chowda.
I think you mean...And the cheat goes on
We certainly don't need to cheat to kick your a$$ year in and year out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llDlEpBaZwc
Yes, actually, you do. The Patriots have won nothing without cheating for it. Nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
The only cheating thats gone on in a Patriots/Steeler game is your players, and coaches, cheating you out of a chance to win.
The history of Bellichick and the Patriots cheating is well documented throughout the Bellichick Brady era, it's part of their legacy.
It's always nice to have mature and respectful fans from other teams on here. That being said, you, ma'am are a troll. Go home...unless you're interested in decent, respectful debates.
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If they don't need to, why do they continually do it?Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
Trolling in the beatdown? Gee, I don't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluecoat96
We cheat the old fashion way, by being better. Due to us being better your position in the pantheon of dynasties has been irrevocably diminished. There's nothing you can do about that except whine. You have my permission to whine away.Quote:
Originally Posted by vasteeler
You didnt answer the question. Not whining, I actually think they are a great team. Which makes the cheating all the more baffling. So again why all the proven cheating?Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
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Originally Posted by vasteeler
I wasn't aware anyone has proven any cheating. That they broke a rule by filming from the sideline is beyond dispute, but that they cheated? Says who? Where is the proof? Let me help you out, there is no proof. Filming isn't cheating. You're allowed to film from all sorts of locations, just not from the sideline.
So they suspended Brady four games for...
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Originally Posted by vasteeler
You'd have to ask the commish that question, because there is no hard evidence that Brady deflated, or ordered the deflation, of the balls. Did he? I have no idea, and neither do you, and further, neither does the commissioner.
In all seriousness, I thought Brady's suspension was more for the fact that he didn't cooperate with the investigation. Personally, I think that it's beyond stupid that there was a Deflategate in the first place. I wonder if he would have been suspended at all if he would have just given up his cell phone. Who knows. At least we can agree on one thing. The commish is a complete ass-hat.
Equipment alteration is a $25,000 fine, with no suspension involved. I have no idea how they got so far off the track on that one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluecoat96
If I remember correctly, Goodell said something to the effect of Brady's lack of cooperation being "conduct detrimental to the league" which can carry a stiffer penalty than equipment alteration.....at least I think that's roughly what Goodell said. I could be wrong, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
I think that's right. I think that's the position Goodell took. And you could say that's the position he took when he fined Belichick for filming from the sideline. Apparently the coaches were warned, and Belichick ignored the warning. Goodell, with all the equipment available today, didn't want an arms race developing on the field with teams trying to eavesdrop, film, etc. everything that was going on. In that case I agree with him. Belichick's position was that look, 80,000 people are watching the game, what difference does one camera on the sideline make?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluecoat96
The penalty isn't the question. Brady cheating is. No proof needed, the actions by those involved during the investigation show there was cheating. People lost jobs, playerA was suspended multiple games, the footballs were checked and found to be under inflation rules, the discarded cel phone, etc.....all point to cheating. With or without proof, we all KNOW there was shit going down.Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
1. You aren't part of the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
2. lies. "You" find new ways to cheat every week. It's documented quite nicely throughout the years.
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Typical Pats fan, refuses to acknowledge that his team cheats then claims that we are all just jealous
The score.
Patriots: 36
Steelers: 17
Evidence of cheating: 0
Steelers defensive scheme: -10
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What a coincidence, because there is none.Quote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
Anytime you think you have some evidence, please feel free to post it. Until then I'll assume you're whining, and take it with a grain of salt.Quote:
Originally Posted by st33lersguy
The Most Respected Players in the NFL
While the expression “Respect isn’t given. It’s earned,” may be trite, it’s 100 percent applicable to the NFL. No player walks into the league and instantly has the admiration of fans and fellow players. He has to prove he’s not only skilled, but that he’s going to handle his business the right way—with hard work, humility, and character.
The NFL, like other professional sports leagues, has a history of players who didn’t have the grit and determination to make it to the top of the food chain. Alternatively, the unifying characteristic of those who do make it is that no matter how successful the player gets, he never loses sight of what’s important.
That ability to remain focused on football, family, and helping others—despite the adulation of everyone around them—is what makes players special. They block out all the noise, even if some of that noise is positive, and remain true to themselves. They are universally respected. To honor these class acts, we've compiled a list of The Most Respected Players in the NFL today.
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Tom Brady
Despite his on-again, off-again suspensions for an offense that, even if he did commit, has had no discernible effects on his performance, Tom Brady is one of the most respected figures in all of professional sports. He always takes the highest of high roads, is a member of the mega-star athletes golf foursome, and has even made it into the obituaries of his fans. Of course, much of the respect Brady garners stems from his success on the football field: four Super Bowl victories (including three Super Bowl MVPs), two regular season MVP awards, and 11 Pro Bowls. Not too shabby for a sixth round draft pick, and it’s that rise from overlooked prospect to one of the league’s greatest quarterbacks of all time has served as a model for players across the league. Despite turning 39 in August, there’s no sign Brady is slowing down. It must be the avocado ice cream.
http://www.complex.com/sports/2016/09/the-most-respected-players-in-the-nfl/
Well they were caught and punished by the league twice, and then there were the spygate tapes that Goodell destroyed without looking at so.....Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
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Originally Posted by st33lersguy
They were never caught cheating.
The league never even said that filming from the sideline was cheating. They said it's against the rules, and they sent a memo around the league asking coaches to stop it.
As for Brady, and deflategate? I'm going to post that he didn't do it, or that he did, because how the hell would I know? But the NFL doesn't know either.
hmmm...Against the rules...isn't that the very definition of cheating?Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
All in the proof....Quote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
1. Spygate 2007. Loss of draft pick.
2. 5 players caught using PEDs since spygate. Players suspended. 5 players.
3. Caught lying about players on IR. Misinformation is against the rules and therefore cheating.
4. Deflategate. Player suspended. Staff fired.
5. One more. The illegal formation used by the Pats to score the winning TD against the Ravens. Brady said that they knew exactly what they were doing. Later confirmed to be an illegal play. So, by his own words, Brady cheated on purpose and with full knowledge.
This list can keep getting longer but I'll stop with these obvious ones.
Brady conveniently destroyed his cell phone because he didn't want to hand over evidence that would incriminate him. Basically suspended for tampering and obstruction... then lying about it. It was also comical when Belichick tried to explain it away using science... 'cause he's a genius of everything. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
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Originally Posted by vasteeler
I suspect it's against the rules to play football in a hockey uniform, but few would call it cheating, unless they were Steeler fans of course.
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Oh my, a football player using a PED. I'm shocked, shocked.Quote:
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Well look, one correct answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteelMember