Have you met Voice of Reason?Quote:
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Have you met Voice of Reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoes
Repeating the lie once again. And as I predicted, most of the geniuses here are buying it. :boink:Quote:
Originally Posted by cubanstogie
Do I know you guys or what? :yay3:
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Originally Posted by Shoes
You must not have been reading the board after the Cleveland game. :boink:
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Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
No, I didn’t bother reading the board after the Cleveland game; there’s no point. "The Game Day Thread" has always been the cornerstone of fandom here at SU, but that doesn’t change how I feel.
IMO, the Steelers are exceeding expectations despite the flaws of the players and coaches.
We all choose where to invest our time and energy. If someone’s sense of identity or self-worth hinges on the Steelers or trying to outdo others in an online forum, that’s a sad state of affairs. Football is a game—nothing more, nothing less. It’s unfortunate to see this site declining how it has, but perhaps it reflects how some of us have lost perspective on what matters.
its hard to have a discussion with someone who has, only, two agendas and little to nothing to say about either.
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Originally Posted by 86WARD
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Originally Posted by polamalubeast
And repeatedly lies about a statement that is documented. There’s got to be a medical diagnosis.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
If only we had Kenny Pickett...Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
If only we didn't have Mike Tomlin...
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This season KFP has played in 3 games, completed 1 pass for 5 yards, and taken 1 sack for -8 yards. I wonder if the Eagles' fans are concerned because they don't know what they have with KFP. Maybe if they played him more he might be better than Hurts. They may never know. That has to be eating at them.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler
It's nice to read a common sense post. Thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoes
They’d be 12-0 if he was starting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
This thread is going from comical to insulting and causing division among the members. Tomlin isn't perfect, but he has been doing a great job lately. Maybe when the year changes it might be good to start fresh?
Jalen Hurts will be injured this week. Ending his season and ending his run for MVP (which he deserves OVER Saquon and just behind Josh Allen). Kenny will throw for 5 TDs and 398 yards against the Steelers in a 38-6 victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
You can bet that if you want. Just thank me later for the prediction.
Easily 11-1. Probably not 12-0. If they had Pickett and no Tomlin, they’d be 14-0 through 12 weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by DesertSteel
The Eagles will be up 38-6 @ halftime, but Omar will swing a trade for Kenny and Pickett plays for the Steelers in the second half and leads the Black & Gold back to a 39-38 come from behind victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
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Voice of treasons wet dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler
What was the board like after Kenny's losses?Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
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I haven't been here long enough to know if the site has "declined" from what it used to be. What I DO know is that this board currently has a group of six or seven people who think that they "run" the board and that they can tell other people what they can and cannot post and what opinions they can and cannot have, and if anyone disagrees with them or challenges them on this they gang up to attack and ridicule that person in order to intimidate him into submission.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoes
This naturally kills a lot of the discussion on the board and discourages both new and veteran members of the board from posting if their opinions disagree with the "ruling class", since most of the people who join this board just want to have a pleasant discussion about the Steelers and don't want to deal with all this crap. I've been told by a number of board members in private messages and reputation comments that this is exactly why they have cut back their posting or stopped it all together. I've also noticed that there are a number of new people who have joined the board since I've been here who lurk and read the board but who rarely or never actually post. As a matter of fact, in the year that I've been here I seem to be the only newbie who regularly posts. I don't think that's a coincidence. I've been around message boards long enough that I don't let the board assholes run me off, but why would anyone else want to be subjected to all the taunts and insults you get here if you don't conform?
For a site that almost went belly-up a year ago and is supposedly looking to attract new posters and fresh voices, this is one of the most unfriendly places for new posters I've ever seen.
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Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
One issue with this site is the "soapbox" and the constant stream of political trash that gets thrown around. Sadly, this negativity has crept into the football forums, bringing toxic attitudes with it. As I’ve mentioned before, I’m part of an acoustic guitar forum with over 100,000 active members. Years ago, it had a section similar to the soapbox. The moderators spent so much time dealing with that subforum that it started to impact the rest of the forum. The negativity spilled into the guitar discussions, and eventually, the owner decided to shut it down without warning. The loudest voices from that subforum disappeared, and most of them had contributed little, if anything, to the guitar discussions. Once it was gone, peace returned, and the forum has been thriving ever since. Its golden rule is simple: “Be nice,” or you’re out.
On this site, I’ve never had an issue (at least that I can remember) with anyone when discussing football. We might not always see eye to eye, but the conversations are usually respectful—aside from the occasional troll who passes through.
That said, I want to be honest: the constant back-and-forth about KP and Tomlin has been over the top. I’m not a big fan of Tomlin myself, but I made peace with the fact that when the Steelers hire a head coach, they’re committed for the long haul. That’s not going to change, and neither am I likely to change anyone’s mind about him. What’s clear is that the players respect him—from those who cause problems to the ones who hold the team together. It’s hard to imagine a scenario where a head coach losing the respect of the locker room would lead to anything positive.
You have a lot to offer this forum, and I’d encourage you to take the high road and focus on the things that bring us together as fans rather than on topics that cause constant friction. After all, this isn’t life or death. I think there are two kinds of fools in this world—young ones and old ones. The young ones have an excuse—they lack life experience and have time to grow. But the old ones? It’s a sad story if they're still fools after a lifetime of lessons. At 70+, I’m still learning and working to improve my attitude and perspective.
The block button is a good thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoes
Was not sure if this should go here or the Hard Knocks thread....but it really isn't show specific so I will put it here.
For much of Tomlin's tenure, a decent percentage of Steelers fans and observers have really taken issue with Tomlin having different rules for different players.
I think that all the attention that the Hard Knocks show and the team's 2024 success has sent Tomlin's way; you are getting tons of interviews and insights that have actual NFL players saying that it is that different coaching that is exactly what they needed to be successful.
It has long been a point of contention amongst Steelers fans for debate. I really believe we are getting a mountain of evidence that while it is not perfect and can (and does) back-fire; Tomlin's different strokes for different folks works better than the other way.
The problem is your post again reads like facts fitting a preconceived narrative. Remember, there are issues such as ownership interference (something Artie II has engaged in), only having part of the say in who comes or not (and Kahn and Weidl are only watching their second season as GM and Assistant), and so on. And, not to mention, each game was under a different QB, the first game was the first game with Fields and the second game was the fourth with Wilson and against division rivals who know us very well. Of course, one should also remember this team just put up 3 passing TDs and 1 rushing TD Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
Does Tomlin have his problems? Absolutely. So did Cowher. So did Noll. But, at least for me, it is difficult to take someone seriously (in any subject) when all that a person says about a subject is negative without any attempt to balance it. That's what makes it seem like fitting a preconceived narrative. But, again, this is just my opinion.
Jimmy Johnson was famous for this tactic. He openly stated that everyone would not be treated the same or equally. It worked pretty well for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
James Harrison would receive preferential treatment rightfully so.
That’s pretty much what every successful “coach” or “manager” does. I’ve never understood that criticism either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
That's good advice, but I've taken the high road here before and it hasn't worked. Also, by telling me to avoid topics that cause friction you are joining the people who are trying to tell me which topics I can and cannot post, and thus rewarding them for their attacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoes
Look at all the attacks they've made on me just on this page of the thread (page 92). I would feel a lot better about what you're saying if you would have urged ALL people on this board to take the high road and change their behavior instead of putting the responsibility for doing this only on me.
But what if the negativity is justified? Should we not take 99% of the people on this board seriously because all they said about Matt Canada was negative without any attempt to balance it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Craic
But then you still read what I'm saying by reading other people's posts commenting upon what I've said, and then you still write posts about me anyway. All the "blocking" and "ignoring" you claim to be doing to me is phony.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
Cry me a fucking river or three since we’re in Pittsburgh. Anyone rooting for 5 wins or less to get coach fired opposed to winning a SB with the HC you hate deserves to be attacked. It’s called treason. If I were king you’d be executed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason