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Gotta give Tomlin and Canada credit in this one. The first half game plan wasn't all that bad, but a lot of mental mistakes kept us from putting more points on the board. However, they made the necessary adjustments and the offense, for the first time all season, looked like they were capable.
Most encouraging post on this board in weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by RunNGun
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Originally Posted by RunNGun
They obviously rallied in the second half. TJ Watt made an unbelievable interception to get everything started. He broke on that ball like Minkah would. He literally does something every week that just makes you shake your head because you can't believe he is that talented, that good, and that clutch. He literally turned the game around and ignited the team.
Mike Tomlin is inspirational as a leader. He held everything together and they made just enough plays to get it done today. He does need to stop this crap with the wide receivers. They are letting their emotions come before the team. That can't be allowed to stand. Both WRs almost cost the entire team today with stupid plays.
Matt Canada was his usual horrible self in the first half, but there were a bunch of mistakes that was holding the offense back. He came back in the second half and had some good play calls with imaginative design. The plays worked, the team started to click a little bit, and the offense just played lights out the last three drives of the game. Good bounce back.
Kenny Pickett was excellent today. His OL was just awful in the first half, and they couldn't get anything going. He had no time to throw. In the second half, he was able to throw in rhythm much more because the OL played much better. They got better protections called and executed, and Pickett was putting it on his receivers and maneuvered well withing the pocket and stepped up and fired the ball on the money when it mattered most.
Defense continues to do whatever they have to do. Joey Porter just stands out like a beacon in coverage. The dude can stick with receivers and makes a difference when he is on the field. He needs to be more physical and tackle better against the run, but the kid can cover. He makes stops on big plays and at big moments. Get him on the field more.
I loved that 4th down play at the end. You saw Tomlin on the sideline talking to TJ Watt and the defense telling them he was going for it. You could see everyone excited and saying, yeah man, go for it. We got this. Love it! The defense was willing to step up if it didn't work and backed their coach and loved that they were aggressively trying to win the game right there. Love it.
Overall good win today. Brutal start, but they kept fighting and found their way. Hopefully the start of something here. Great first step out of the bye. Onward and upward!
I’ll second all that.Quote:
Originally Posted by pczach
Tomlin “checking” with defense was hilarious.
Games like today is why I’d take Tomlin over almost anyone in the league.
Rams coach is the wunderkid coach. I didn’t see a great deal of impact coaching today. All those yards and only up 6 at the half? Can you imagine if that would’ve been reversed?
Second half KP and OL was leap and bounds better than anything previous.
And I’m going to point out that according to the announcers, KP himself identified bailing out and rolling out as issues to fix. He hung in or stepped up in the pocket today and made plays. QB 101.
Yes. They both did much better the second half. I’m wondering what the actual adjustments were as far as scheme, philosophy, whatever. There was a clear difference in offensive halves.Quote:
Originally Posted by RunNGun
It will be interesting to see what changed on both sides of the ball. Clearly it was something.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
Wow, I've always been a supporter of Tomlin for homerish reasons. He's from my area. I don't advocate quick firings (except Canada)
But this press conference is stunning in a bad way. I cannot believe he said this. See tweet.
Get turnovers wherever you can. I mean, that's their job and they did that. The offense has to execute and take advantage.
Blaming the Defense because their turnovers weren't good enough turnovers.
This teams' culture is rotten and it all comes down to this coach. Tomlin is done-zo.
Still better than Arthur Smith and a bunch of other out there with the same job title…
The QB and coaching ranks in the NFL is really at an all-time low…
"Hey Coach, what do you think about that interception I made in the end zone that kept the other guys from scoring the game-winning touchdown?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Edman
"I'm disappointed in you. That left us eighty yards away from scoring the TD that would have iced the game."
Wow. I've never been an advocate for change just for the sake of change, but if he really said this, its time for Tomlin to move on.
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Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
He has been saying some incredibly stupid things the last few seasons, but this season in particular. I don't understand what there is to gain by downplaying turnovers from the side of the ball that has been carrying this team.
After the 49ers game Tomlin said that the offensive line was excellent. What game was he watching? Besides that, all he is doing is pissing on the young QB in his first game of the season, his running backs, his receivers, and his defense. Other than that, he was spot on with his comment. :der:
He has admitted to no allowing Kenny Pickett to audible whenever he wants or to call protections. Tomlin says the OL can handle that. No need for Pickett to do that. Says things like, at their discretion, meaning doing what the coaches say with no control from the QB.
On Ben Roethlisberger's show, Pat Freiermuth admits the Steelers offense doesn't have hot routes built into the offense. It looks like that hasn't changed this season, or at least they are very limited.
This offense is circling the drain, and Tomlin's fingerprints are all over it whether he hired Canada or not.
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Originally Posted by fansince'76
The man's dumb ass comments are starting to pile up.
I mean, he isn't wrong.
This is one of those tempest in a teapot kind of things. As almost anything is when it involves a single quote from the press conference nonsense that the NFL forces everyone to go through.
When you have a shitty offense, turnovers that don't START with you in FG range are just chances to punt more often.
…..and that’s exactly what happened. I have no problem with that statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
I am not arguing that there are more quality coaches and QB's than you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
I am going to argue that we are just so much more hyper-aware of how bad things are across the league because of the deluge of coverage across a variety of platforms, the overall elevation of some of that coverage to actually talk about things that coaches are or are not doing, and the incredible expectations on the QB position.
Even 10 years ago, the coverage was immense, but not as detailed and constant as it is now.
You can play around with this....there have always been some rough QBs starting across the league: https://www.nfl.com/stats/player-sta...singyards/desc
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Originally Posted by Mojouw
Was Tomlin right when he said the Steelers' offensive line was excellent in the 49ers game?
Probably not.Quote:
Originally Posted by pczach
I have long said that NFL mandated media sessions by coaches, players, or whoever are lies, half-truths, propaganda, and overall nonsense.
Coaches across the league throw people to the wolves who they think can handle it and publicly support struggling players/units that the think need a show of faith.
Public comments and private reality are extremely different. Almost every former NFL dude I've seen talk about it has always remarked on what fans were told versus what was actually going on internally.
Hey, if Tomlin gets fired, McDaniels is now available.:chuckle:
The Raiders fired McDickhead?
They cleaned house. HC, GM , OC all gone...Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
He appreciates them? Lol
Turnovers are always good, even if your offense is shitty. For one thing it stops the other teams drive and gives you the chance to at least move the ball downfield and pin the other team deeper in their own territory
maybe he wants the db’s to start batting down catchable balls
Tomlin gets all the credit for winning when the team doesn’t play well and none of the blame for the team not playing well.
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Originally Posted by DesertSteel
You're probably right.
The thing I find most amazing is the fact that all we keep hearing is that Tomlin wins games. He's a winner. He's a leader of men. It looks ugly most of the time, but the man knows how to win football games and will his team to victory. That's what makes him great.
On the other hand we have Kenny Pickett. Who doesn't always look pretty, at times looks ugly, but when everything is on the line he balls out and finds a way to win games. No matter how much he has struggled, when it matters most he is able to will himself and the team to get it done. He's just a winner and a great leader that players follow.
Yet the same people that use that logic to prop up Tomlin, use it against Kenny Pickett.
Tomlin is ESPN’s Coach of the Year in their mid season awards.
That is not the only place that I have seen or heard that being discussed.Quote:
Originally Posted by DesertSteel
Is there a coach in the league whose perception by the home-town fans and the out-of-town fans/media is more spread out than Tomlin's?
How is that? Has he coached past some major adverse conditions? Most of them overcoming is overcoming themselves
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