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Originally Posted by polamalubeast
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“He said he loves football, he loves football when it’s tough, and he doesn't want to win easily,” Steelers offensive lineman James Daniels said. “When he says that, it means a lot. He wants to see what we’re made of... That really stuck with me. When a game is tight, he loves it. I've never had a coach say that.”
Explains why he didn’t want to challenge Najee’s TD run… lol
He's not entirely wrong. If Mitch Trubisky was just average, the Steelers are likely playing this week, if not last week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
You can only scheme so much before your lack of talent becomes apparent. Look at how the chess player "genius" Belichick is faring without Tom Brady.
All true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edman
But when you have a schematically limited offense, which Canada's appears to be unless there is another reason, then you are narrowing your pathway(s) to victory. The team's margin for error seemingly has dropped to almost zero. Defense can not miss a coverage or a sack because it isn't like the offense can just go pick up a TD with an explosive play. Even more straightforward than that, there is no way to make-up for getting behind the chains. I know that all teams struggle with this, but when you have things you are doing to put defenses in a bind and assist in generating big plays....you can deal with a few 2nd and forevers in a game.
To be fair, just who exactly are those explosive playmakers on the roster right now? DJ was supposed to be that guy last time I checked but he keeps running backwards. We've gotten close a few times, but hardly anyone stepped up to be the "explosive" guy. George Pickens right now has shown he's a very good possession receiver, but not a Mike Wallace-type gamebreaker. Calvin Austin III was supposed to be some field burner, but we haven't seen him yet. I know Canada sucks, but just who on the Steelers Offense scares anybody? You have to play to the horses you have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
It's like the mess earlier in the season where we got on Canada for not throwing over the middle. Only to find out that he is calling middle routes and Mitch Trubisky is garbage and can't see the field. Canada definitely failed to scheme something together to smoke and mirror away Mitch's GLARING issues, yes, he definitely fell short there. But Mitch Trubisky is Mitch Trubisky.
Near the end of the season the Offense showed that they could overcome deficits. Early on, most definitely correct. A touchdown deficit was insurmountable, but they grew from that. I think your mind may change if we see Kenny Pickett has a game where he explodes and stage a multi-score comeback.
The Giants are running passing offense through some dude who was on waivers in November. The Jags get explosive plays out of Zay Jones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edman
Creative offensive coaches can get explosive plays from regular old NFL dudes. Bad coaches struggle when handed anything less than dominant players.
How about a couple of games where they just kill it. Win by multiple scores. Winnings 16-10 game with a last minute come back is not proof that they are goodQuote:
Originally Posted by Edman
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Well, they just had one to close out the season...Quote:
Originally Posted by NCSteeler
Your kidding, right? GP has the potential to be hugely explosive, just because we use him like a possession WR doesn’t mean that is what he is. Claypool was able to stretch the field before he was traded, but how many times did we send guys up the field. Of course we don’t know because Crapnada doesn’t have plays designed to stretch the field, or pick plays to get anyone open while running across the middle. 90% of his plays are comeback routes, how are we supposed to know if we have anyone that can make big plays?Quote:
Originally Posted by Edman
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Originally Posted by 86WARD
Yes, it does. Fire Tomlin!
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Originally Posted by fansince'76
Mike Tomlin is the big toe of this operation! :chuckle:
Stretch the field? All Claypool ever did after his rookie year was run sloppy routes, have mental lapses, and let smaller corners out-muscle him for the ball. Don't pretend we never saw Pickett's first ever deep shot to Claypool where a 5'8 guy wrestled the ball away from the "Top 3 receiver" for an interception. He was as soft as Charmin. And as we seen after we moved him to Chicago, he's shown not much better there either. Maybe Claypool just an above average receiver that isn't that good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotorhead
This is a post staring in 2014! Tomlin has a losing record is the playoffs. In fact he has not won a playoff game since 2016. That is a long time. Six years and counting to be precise. Can you name another head coach that has a similar drought of six years and no playoff wins? As they say you can use the internet :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
Tomlin's pre game strategy is lacking. His game day decisions on when to kick and when to go for it, time-outs usage, and selection of plays to red flag stink. His hires of OC have been poor. In fact he sets a dubious record for his head coaching tree relative to the years spent as head coach. It currently at zero after 16 seasons. Not one Tomlin coaching hires has been promoted to head coach. Think about it.
The game day adjustments and side line one on one coaching are not there. Communication with a man in dark shades is not ideal. It is a way to turn people off. If he has offered a sit down like interview on coaching I must have missed it. Others have . No hard knocks here. He will be exposed.
Enough. # time to get a new head coach. With all the money that franchises are making Art Rooney II can certaily afford it. Sean Payton is out there.
As they say in sports you can't fire the owner for ineptness, but you can fire the coach.
Sean Payton? Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Six Rings
You seriously just threw Sean Payton’s name out there as an option?
Www.Google.com
and you want Sean Payton.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Six Rings
Like I said, we used him, and all of them, like possession WRs. Kind of hard to stretch the field when 95% of the pass plays are 10yd comeback routes and the other 5% are go routes to our shortest WR. You made my point, the ONE play you bring up is the ONLY play you can bring up because that is the ONLY time we tried to have him stretch the field. AFTER he showed that ability in the second half of his rookie year. How is that his fault and not the fault of the OC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Edman
Yeah. Not sure how a bad head coaching tree is any better than not having one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Payton#Coaching_treeQuote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
I have read and heard conversation that the Saints still own the rights to Sean Payton. If another team hires him they will owe compensation to the Saints. That will most likely mean multiple 1st round draft picks plus other picks and other compensation. I like Sean Payton but that doesn't sound like a move the Steelers would or should want to make. My opinion.
Yes. Have your ever heard the man speak? He'll fix the offense and is a highly sought after each coach by many in the NFL. You would rather stick with Tomlin?Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
I mean Tomlin has a better track record than Payton. Lol. Easily figured out by using google.Quote:
Originally Posted by Six Rings
Sean Payton…lol. That’s a typical ignorant suggestion…
Bill Belichick hasn't won a playoff game since 2018.Quote:
Originally Posted by Six Rings
I mean, I know it isn't the 6 years of ineptitude that you are looking for, but this guy is widely considered the best in the game by anyone that matters and is just two years short of your goal. The two years they did make the playoffs they were one and done (same as Tomlin).
Tomlin has more regular season wins than Belichick since 2018 as well (38 to 37).
Patriots should probably strongly consider moving on from him too by your logic...
Few years ago,he said so many times how much better Harbaugh was better as head coach than Tomlin...He has only 1 playoff win since 2015 and 2 since 2013(since Ray Lewis and Ed Reed are gone)Quote:
Originally Posted by lipps83
Mike Tomlin will finish out his current contract through the 2024 season. There will be no HC change made until then at the earliest.
Posters that come on here and say Tomlin is a bad HC is just noise. That take is so far from reality it refutes itself. If you want to talk coaching philosophy of Tomlin vs ‘HC hopeful A thru Z’, that might be a conversation worth having. BUT…”Fire Tomlin because he sucks”, is just a bad reflection on the poster.
Probably because Harbaugh can only win with Billick's players.Quote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
Sean Payton and his 7-8 playoff record is a better fit!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
The factual reply is Sean Payton is 9-8 in the playoffs. Don't trust me? You can always check Google.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
Here I will post a link:
https://athlonsports.com/nfl/sean-pa...orleans-saints
I take it you don't need more.
So I fat fingered it. His 9-8 (.529) playoff record…REAL GOOD…Quote:
Originally Posted by Six Rings
I’m glad you finally used Google and posted a real fact.
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Furthers my point…not any better than Tomlin as a whole. Not even remotely close.
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Originally Posted by 86WARD
I always knew how to use google and before that yahoo. Don't worry I'm not going to charge you anything.
Sure Sean Payton isn't remotely close to Tomiln :toofunny:
You are correct he only won 6 super bowls, is 31-13 in the post season and is considered my most among the top 5 nfl coaches of all time. What was I thinking?Quote:
Originally Posted by lipps83
My statement is correct until you tell me what I wrote is wrong.
" Tomlin has a losing record is the playoffs. In fact he has not won a playoff game since 2016. That is a long time. Six years and counting to be precise. Can you name another head coach that has a similar drought of six years and no playoff wins? "
By the way Harvin the III, one of the worst punters in the NFL is safe under Tomlin. I never saw an avatar of a punter with a pot belly before. As they say there is first time for everything. Props for being different.
https://www.nfl.com/stats/player-sta...rageyards/desc