2022 Mock drafts

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Originally Posted by Mojouw

Carr and Jackson made 2 Pro Bowls in their first few years. Making their 5th year option = franchise tag. I think same for Dalton. But can’t remember when you have to exercise the option.

Ravens can use the option, but it’s the same as the franchise tag. So they’d be in the exact same spot if Lamar was the first pick of the second round.

Unless I’m missing someone (and Lamar is odd because he’s negotiating his own deal), only bad QBs play on the option. The rest are extended in year 3 or 4 when they’ve already pushed their option up to equal the franchise tag level by performance.

Long story short, I think for QBs the fifth year option is a big talking point by NFL pundits and it basically doesn’t do anything in the actual NFL. Either the player is so good that they’re at franchise tag level therefore obviating the option year or they sorta stink and they get Bakered.

For non-QB positions it totally can matter. But, while I should really look into it more, it SEEMS that it just doesn’t matter for QBs.

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Why not give first-round QBs
three-year deals? … if the years beyond three “really” have no weight in bargaining.

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Originally Posted by teegre

Why not give first-round QBs
three-year deals? … if the years beyond three “really” have no weight in bargaining.

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I dunno. I didn’t write the CBA. Don’t shoot the messenger here.

Look up the first round QB of your choice. Then count Pro Bowls. If you get to 2 before the option, the CBA elevates it to the franchise tag level. For almost every QB a team would want to sign to a big market rocking deal, that happens. So there’s your team friendly leverage right out the window.

Dak and Wilson got signed to a similar contract of first round QBs on a similar schedule. No fifth round option option.

I can’t find a QB where they don’t kinda suck and they have the fifth year option matter. Lamar Jackson maybe and that’s almost certainly because he’s his own agent.

Where’s the QB that the fifth round option did something the franchise tag couldn’t?

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Originally Posted by DesertSteel

If they intend on drafting Ridder, Howell or Corral, I predict they move back to 25-27 and pick up an extra 2nd.

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I agree that 27-35 is where those three QBs end up.

OPTION 1:
-draft a stud defender at 20
-trade up from 52 to acquire the QB

OPTION 2:
-trade back from 20 to aquire the QB
-draft two “lesser” defenders in R2

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Originally Posted by Mojouw

I dunno. I didn’t write the CBA. Don’t shoot the messenger here.

Look up the first round QB of your choice. Then count Pro Bowls. If you get to 2 before the option, the CBA elevates it to the franchise tag level. For almost every QB a team would want to sign to a big market rocking deal, that happens. So there’s your team friendly leverage right out the window.

Dak and Wilson got signed to a similar contract of first round QBs on a similar schedule. No fifth round option option.

I can’t find a QB where they don’t kinda suck and they have the fifth year option matter. Lamar Jackson maybe and that’s almost certainly because he’s his own agent.

Where’s the QB that the fifth round option did something the franchise tag couldn’t?

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Okay. Let’s assume the fifth year isn’t involved in bargaining (although it must mean something if it’s part of the CBA to negate the fifth year with two Pro Bowls). Instead, let’s look at those two Pro Bowls needed to negate the fifth year…

With the AFC having Allen, Mahomes, Wilson, Herbert, Burrow, Jackson, and I’ll even throw in Lawrence, Watson, and Carr, what are the odds that one of the 2022 QBs gets two Pro Bowls ahead of one of these 6-9 guys?

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Originally Posted by teegre

Okay. Let’s assume the fifth year isn’t involved in bargaining (although it must mean something if it’s part of the CBA to negate the fifth year with two Pro Bowls). Instead, let’s look at those two Pro Bowls needed to negate the fifth year…

With the AFC having Allen, Mahomes, Wilson, Herbert, Burrow, Jackson, and I’ll even throw in Lawrence, Watson, and Carr, what are the odds that one of the 2022 QBs gets two Pro Bowls ahead of one of these 6-9 guys?

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About the same when those dudes that all made Pro Bowls like Carr and Dalton were behind Brady, Manning, Rivers, Roethlisberger, and whoever else I’m forgetting.

Rookie and second year hotness gets fan voted over old guys.

There’s a Chris Rock NSFW routine in there….

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Originally Posted by teegre

Okay. Let’s assume the fifth year isn’t involved in bargaining (although it must mean something if it’s part of the CBA to negate the fifth year with two Pro Bowls). Instead, let’s look at those two Pro Bowls needed to negate the fifth year…

With the AFC having Allen, Mahomes, Wilson, Herbert, Burrow, Jackson, and I’ll even throw in Lawrence, Watson, and Carr, what are the odds that one of the 2022 QBs gets two Pro Bowls ahead of one of these 6-9 guys?

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here is the thing , for me anyways ... there is no worse time to be a rookie QB in the AFC if looking to make a pro bowl or all pro in the first 2-3 years of your career ... the afc is STACKED at QB and some extremely talented QBs will not get all pro or pro bowl invites ... just to many

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Originally Posted by Mojouw

I dunno. I didn’t write the CBA. Don’t shoot the messenger here.

Look up the first round QB of your choice. Then count Pro Bowls. If you get to 2 before the option, the CBA elevates it to the franchise tag level. For almost every QB a team would want to sign to a big market rocking deal, that happens. So there’s your team friendly leverage right out the window.

Dak and Wilson got signed to a similar contract of first round QBs on a similar schedule. No fifth round option option.

I can’t find a QB where they don’t kinda suck and they have the fifth year option matter. Lamar Jackson maybe and that’s almost certainly because he’s his own agent.

Where’s the QB that the fifth round option did something the franchise tag couldn’t?

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Cam Newton was a 5th year option...I believe. I believe the panthers used it on him and then maybe came to an extension?

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Originally Posted by 86WARD

Cam Newton was a 5th year option...I believe. I believe the panthers used it on him and then maybe came to an extension?

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Ok. But if his 5th year option was equal to the franchise tag…it meant team still had immense leverage.

The 5th year option is never a bad thing to have. But it’s also usually not different than the franchise tag. Therefore, I wouldn’t trade BACK INTO the first round just to get a guy with the option. Only go back into the first if you think the guy won’t be there in round 2.

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Originally Posted by Mojouw

Ok. But if his 5th year option was equal to the franchise tag…it meant team still had immense leverage.

The 5th year option is never a bad thing to have. But it’s also usually not different than the franchise tag. Therefore, I wouldn’t trade BACK INTO the first round just to get a guy with the option. Only go back into the first if you think the guy won’t be there in round 2.

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Here’s a point to consider: the top five picks on Day 2 are highly coveted… because, teams go home, reassess their draft boards, and realize Player X slipped into R2. POW!!! suddenly the teams at the top of R2 are fielding many trade offers. Ergo, sometimes it’s easier to trade to 30 than it is to trade to 33.

As far as Chris Rock goes… you got young & hot, or, you got old & not. :lol:

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Originally Posted by teegre

Here’s a point to consider: the top five picks on Day 2 are highly coveted… because, teams go home, reassess their draft boards, and realize Player X slipped into R2. POW!!! suddenly the teams at the top of R2 are fielding many trade offers. Ergo, sometimes it’s easier to trade to 30 than it is to trade to 33.

As far as Chris Rock goes… you got young & hot, or, you got old & not. :lol:

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That’s true. Day 2 top 5 can be a Wild West scenario as everyone scrambles for falling stars.

Young & hot can’t cook! Doesn’t read to your kids…[emoji3]

When trying to compile a list of 1st round worthy prospects that fit the Steelers, I keep listing about '200' players. This draft is so deep just about everywhere.

I think at this point we can safely take RB off the board at pick 20.

I feel safe saying pick 20 will not be a TE, and with the signing of Myles Jack I have taken out the ILBs as well.

NFL WRs have become such a DIVA position I hesitate to put them into the 1st round conversation, but there are some guys(5-6) in this draft that would be very hard to pass over if there at 20.

The OL is still an unknown for the Steelers and there are about 6-7 prospects that make sense for the Steelers in the 1st round.

QB is a top option because as of today the Steelers don't have an established one. Add in another 5 prospects here.

When talking OLB everybody says "quality depth". Yet here again there are 5-6 names that could fall into the 20th overall pick, including Ojabo who probably will miss the 2022 season.

I find another 5 DL prospects that fit the Steelers and could be the day 1 pick.

The secondary is where I simply cannot cut it down to a reasonable number. So many shiny things. Between Safety and CB I am currently at 10-14 possible names that would make great Steelers.

I have it narrowed down to 35-43 possible names the Steelers could be drafting at pick 20. Even if the boards go exactly as the 'experts' predict and 19 of those names come off this list prior to the Steelers' pick, I am still at 16-24 prospects to choose from AT pick 20.

My heart says use pick 20 and get the best possible Steeler on the board. My head says trade back and get 2.

Good points, B2S.

I would keep ILB (the Steelers have met with several of them)… and wait until Day 2 or Day 3 for adding an OLB. All of that said, if it’s not a QB, my money is on a DB.

Agreed. DBs are my weakness this draft.

My “all Georgia” mock draft:

R1: Jordan Davis, NT
R2: George Pickens, WR
R3: Quay Walker, ILB
R4: Jamaree Salyer, OG
R6: Derion Kendrick, CB
R7: Zamir White, RB
R7: Justin Shaffer, RT

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Originally Posted by teegre

My “all Georgia” mock draft:

R1: Jordan Davis, NT
R2: George Pickens, WR
R3: Quay Walker, ILB
R4: Jamaree Salyer, OG
R6: Derion Kendrick, CB
R7: Zamir White, RB
R7: Justin Shaffer, RT

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That’s a pretty damn good draft…lol

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Hey all...hope everyone is doing well. Just wanted to make a quick guess as to the possible draft picks this year.

Round 1:20 DT Jordan Davis, Georgia
Round 2:52 WR Skyy Moore, Western Michigan.
Round 3:84 SS Bryan Cooke, Cincinnati.
Round 4:138 CB Damarri Mathis, Pittsburgh.
Round 6:208 OT Mike Rose, Iowa State
Round 7:225 RB Ty Chandler, North Carolina.
Round 7:241 QB Chris Oladokun, South Dakota St.

Edited...last second jitters.

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2023 ARI 2nd

2023 CIN 2nd

2023 NO 3rd

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No Trades ....

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20. Devonte Wyatt DL Georgia 6'3"-310lbs
52. George Pickens WR Georgia 6'3"-200lbs
84. Nick Cross Safety Maryland 6'0"-215lbs
138. Justyn Ross WR Clemson 6'3"-205lbs
208. Joshua Ross ILB Michigan 6'2"-235lbs
225. Andrew Stueber RT Michigan 6'7"-325lbs
241. Connor Heyward TE/FB MichState 6'0"-230lbs

BigBoy draft. I didn't draft for speed or hype. Just football players.

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