Wouldn't that be a kick in the head if Kenny gets a Super Bowl ring while the three players who helped to run him out of Pittsburgh (Cam, Minkah, Watt) don't even get close?Quote:
Originally Posted by steelcityboyz
Karma, anyone?
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Wouldn't that be a kick in the head if Kenny gets a Super Bowl ring while the three players who helped to run him out of Pittsburgh (Cam, Minkah, Watt) don't even get close?Quote:
Originally Posted by steelcityboyz
Karma, anyone?
If you think that Tomlin would ever make Kenny the starter again then I've got some prime real estate in Palisades to sell you.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
It would only matter to you and those that think like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
Many former Steelers players have rings with other teams. This is the sort of thing that can happen when a player transitions from team to team.
The Eagles are going to be a good team with or without KP. He isn't a player that got them over some sort of hurdle to make them better.
if they wanna double down on screw ups look no further ...
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It could have happened before Kenny complained and was traded. If Kenny kept his mouth shut and worked hard to beat out Wilson for the starting position it could have happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
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Right. Who cares if he gets a super bowl ring as the backup quarterback?Quote:
Originally Posted by lipps83
Kenny was in the doghouse after the alleged "Refuse to dress" incident. Then the great leader Cam Heyward went behind his back and recruited Russell Wilson. When Kenny found out Mason Rudolph wasn't getting re-signed (Contrary to popular belief, Kenny and Mason had a tight relationship.), Kenny saw his incoming fate. It was beyond over at that point. Kenny had no reason to trust Tomlin.Quote:
If Kenny kept his mouth shut and worked hard to beat out Wilson for the starting position it could have happened.
But no current Steeler players have rings with the Steelers.Quote:
Originally Posted by lipps83
Even worse, no current Steeler players except Cam and Boz even have a playoff win with the Steelers. :frusty:
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Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
Get your down-payment in quickly. They're having a fire sale, and these properties are HOT.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
If Kenny didn’t contribute at all this year or only played in garbage time I would agree but he won a game when they needed a win to stay in the chase for the #1 seed.Quote:
Originally Posted by lipps83
I know fans don’t like to hear it but Kenny made wise decision and is surrounded by professionalism that has led the team to a SB.
What is Cam and Tomlin doing this weekend?
Watching the SB.
I think Kenny realized this staff isn’t serious about the offensive side of the ball and a lot of our decisions are gut reactions with no actual scheme or game planning.
Professionalism?
The current Eagles head coach has had physical altercations with much of his roster on the sidelines during games. The same coach has had altercations with fans.
In fact, the Eagles almost fired the coach for his actions. And they basically hired a really big dude that the players like to keep the head coach from yelling at his players during games.
Look, the Iggles are a ton of things. Most of them good. But professionalism is not their biggest strong point. Overwhelming talent from amassing draft picks would be their biggest positive.
That seems to get lost in all this discussions as many Steelers fans wishcast into the universe. Talent. Talent is what wins. There is no way to make the less talent + amazing coaching = consistent winning formular work. It is a false assumption.
Say what you want, your opinion, but the Eagles are in the superbowl and the steelers are at home watching.
The Eagles crashed hard just last season. The FO went out and got Barkley. That is why they are back on top. Has nothing to do with KP. I don't dislike the guy. I don't think he would have beaten out either of Wilson or Fields. So whatever happened that made him ask to be traded was the right thing. You could say right for KP and right for the Steelers. Kenny wasn't taking the Steelers to the promised land and number 7. He did not take the Eagles to the promised land either. Lipps is 100%correct.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by steelcityboyz
Largely because of the staggering amount of high draft picks they have all across their roster. Many on first contracts. You should have an amazing defensive line when it is helmed by taking the top DT in two successive drafts. Their WRs and RBs all cost first round picks., often top 10. On the other side of the ball, most of their defense was picked in the first round -- several higher than the Steelers ever select.
Now, a few of these guys the Eagles got through FA and trades. And there are homegrown and developed later round players providing massive contributions. But this is a team that amassed high first round picks and as recently as 2020, dipped to 4-11.
They are stacked with jaw dropping talent across the roster. https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/depth-chart - tell me where the Steelers have a superior position group? Safety? Edge? Nowhere on offense.
We need to stop pretending that coaching is getting the Eagles to the SB. It is certainly not hurting! But this is a gaggle of incredibly talented and highly drafted players coming together.
Its also using your talent wisely. They got Barkley and they FEED him early and often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
Baltimore got Henry and stop giving him the ball in the playoffs.
We got Joey Porter Jr and who was covering Chase in the last Bengals game? Hint.. it wasn’t Joey Porter Jr.
We scheme ourselves out of wins. Watt only rushes from one side. We are still using signals from the Cowher era.
Its not talent, its coaching.
And the Chiefs are still running plays from the Bill Walsh era at times. That’s how it works.Quote:
Originally Posted by feltdizz
And Porter was covering Higgins, the other ludicrously talented WR on the team. Until Higgins got an ouchie.
The Eagles are not doing anything earth shattering. They’re running the ball with the most physically gifted RB in the league behind the best OL. On defense they’ve got like 8 top 50 picks or something like that. And it didn’t come together for them until they improved their LB and nickel corner. That doesn’t sound familiar at all.
You and I could coach the Eagles to a winning season.
Chiefs do a lot more than Bill Wash era plays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
Look at the last 5 drafts. Eagles weren’t the only team picking in the top 10.
and guess who else could’ve picked up Barkley or Henry? We could’ve but we picked up Queen and 2 cheap ass QB’s and some practice squad Falcon players.
Every year we can make the excuse that the team in the SB had some advantage we didn’t have but the reality is the Steelers chose to invest heavily in defense while going bargain bin shopping on offense.
and our OC and DC are trash.. and Tomlin has lost his flair.
Truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by feltdizz
And why don't WE have this kind of talent?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
Once again a Tomlin apologist pretending that Tomlin has nothing to do with the roster.
Apparently winning 9 or 10 games, losing in the playoffs every year and picking 20th is a better strategy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
I’m not putting all the blame on Tomlin. Rooneys are cheap and only invest in defense. We skimp on offense and wonder why we can’t win anything anymore once we get to the playoffs.
Mostly because they had some super duper crappy drafts at the end of the Roethlisberger era as an organizational decision was made to make another run instead of inject youth and talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
I think it’s like 3 years of draft classes that maybe only PF gets a second contract. And he’s so overrated it’s comical.
Colbert retires. And Khan and Weidl usher in an actual rebuilding strategy. And FAR more talent came out of their first two classes than Colbert’s last 4 or so.
In the same period of time, the Iggles drafted far better. They traded around (mostly with the extra picks from the Wentz trade) and accumulated a bunch of high draft picks in multiple drafts.
Pretty good gig if you're going to be a career backup/clipboard holder. Good chance of getting a ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by feltdizz
This is a LOL dig at Cam and Tomlin. They will be doing the same thing Kenny will be doing. Watching.Quote:
Originally Posted by feltdizz
Except Kenny has a chance for a big fat ring.
Which is fine, good for him, but if people are trying to paint this as "Kenny could get a ring! We should have kept him!" when he is a backup having not much to do with the winning of that ring, then I disagree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by steelcityboyz
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Are the Steelers not up against the salary cap every year?Quote:
Originally Posted by feltdizz
In just this one year, Kenny has already learned more about what a team has to do to get to a Super Bowl than Cam, Watt, and Minkah will ever know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
Other than you, Who's painting a picture like that?? whether he's a backup or not he's part of a team, and if they win he deserves the accolades that go with it, sorry it bothers you so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I'm lol'ing at the dog at the Steelers players. That's some whiny stuff.
watching at home vs on the sideline and being one injury from playing time is waaay different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
but kudos at trying to accentuate the positive.
I don’t think anyone is saying since Kenny is in a SB we should’ve kept him. What some are saying is Cam pushed to upgrade the QB room and the FO did as he suggested and we didn’t improve our outcome this season. I think this is because our offense is conservative and predictable and our high paid defense was scared to tackle anyone the last 5 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
and yes, Steelers spend to the cap. But where is our Minkah level move on offense? Where is our Watt or Cam on offense? Steelers went cheap on offense with our QB’s and will continue to do so. Until we make a move for some real talent at the skill position we will continue to suck on offense.
Instead of getting 5 mediocre players from Atlanta, get a real baller in FA and USE HIM. We got Mike Williams and barely played him. Patterson getting touches? Why????