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Rebuild was a word we heard several years ago and look where that has gotten them. Drafting and development haven't been successful and that's killed the success of this franchise in the last decade. The Steelers have been very poor and replacing pieces especially on Defense and on the offensive line. The current coaching staff isn't capable of building a Superbowl contender and that's been proven by a total of 3 playoff wins in nearly a decade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
If there is actually a ‘rebuild’, it started with Ben retiring and drafting Kenny.
THIS coaching staff has at best been together for last season and this season. Not a decade.
Nobody likes ‘growing pains’. New QBs go through that and Kenny is no exception. He’s not terrible.
We need LBs and CBs. We need to re-sign Edmonds and Sutton. We need OL. 1 more WR would be nice.
I like this team. We are close.
YupQuote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
Get KP a real offense and an off season.
I’d take this roster over almost any on the list posted above.
does it matter? If the QB is running for his life? Burrow threw 4 int's against us with Watt healthy, 7 sacks total. Just imagine if we have Tuitt's equivalent in there next year also.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
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looks like they'll get another chance. At least Tomlin will i think. If the Steelers are smart they let some of these assistants go and start shelling out some bucks for a quality staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by that1guy
It won't mean anything if the steelers keep the same coaching staff in offense with Matt Canada in the lead....He's so bad!....I'm not sold on Austin too in defense with what happen in 2018 when he was the DC of the bengals and this year with usQuote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
It can change quickly, but the steelers are not close right now....3-13 against team with a winning record since last year, a lot of improvement to do
We need both....In week 1,Burrow was far from his best, especially after missing most of training camp....He had a very slow start of the the season.....In the other 3 games against the Bengals since last year , the bengals did what they wanted against us, pass and run.You can't count to make 7 sacks or sometimes like that every game against great passing offense,this is hard to doQuote:
Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west
Coaches coach, players win games.Quote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
Sure it does if they can run and throw like Allen and Mahomes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west
Maybe a new group of coaches on the offense can help mask some of the holes there. Still doesn’t help the pass defense or the linebacking situation. That MLB cupboard is pretty bare…with maybe a couple crumbs of Miles Jack lying around.Quote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
If the importance of coaches is not that important, why do they have such a big salary?Quote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
I don’t understand the question. That is not what I posted. The team gets to the redzone, is that players or coaches? The team turns the ball over in the redzone, is that players or coaches? If a FG gets blocked by either team, players or coaches?Quote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
Coaches coach and players play. The combination determines the wins and losses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
You act as if a head coach has no impact in the game... If it was not the case, head coaches wouldn't have salaries of over 10 millionQuote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
I suspect that coaches can do little to alter outcomes during the game. They make their money Monday-Saturday. Sunday is about player execution.
True but I think a coach like Kyle Shanahan has a big impact in his team especially right now with his 3rd QBQuote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
Being able to adjust very quickly in a game to what the opponent is doing is very important too
It’s ok. Even if I put it in a confusing way, I know what I meant. Not necessary to debate it.
Great players make average coaches look good and great coaches make average players look good.
Plan and execution. Good plan, bad execution or bad plan and good execution?
You need both!....The chiefs offense of this year would be average at best with Matt Canada running this offense!Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
Agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
From what I’ve read, that’s the result of Monday to Saturday effort and work. I’ve seen players talk about how if they haven’t practiced it during the week, it’s rarely going to work or be an option the coaches select.Quote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
From what I can tell, most (not ALL) in game adjustments are the result of prior planning. If the other team does this, we will do this other thing. Then, if they throw that unexpected thing at us, we’ll do this unexpected other thing.
That’s why a season or two ago, Haden was dumbfounded when Tomlin drew up a “new” defense at halftime.
I’m wrong. A great deal. But the things I’ve read, paint a picture that Sunday is won during the week leading up for coaches and then game day it’s player execution.
Big Ben, TJ, Deebo, Cam, Minkah, TP43, many others. The coaches can coach and call the perfect gameplan. It takes players to win the game. This team is lacking players first and foremost. We do have some good players on this roster. Just need more blue chip guys. This thread is titled Fire Mike Tomlin, I'm just of the opinion he's doing his job. He needs players to step up and win the games.
Was it the players or the coaches that got the offense into the redzone multiple times vs the Ravens? That part can be debated. But it was the players that ended those drives in turnovers instead of points. 3 redzone turnovers and a blocked FG. That's a potential of 24 points. 24 points just gone because of players not making plays. Not because the coaches failed to coach.
I very much want an offense that resembles an NFL level offense. I just can't blame the coaches for all of it any more.
Not sure about that. Mahomes is the best QB in the league and would by default make his offense a top 10 one at worstQuote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
and he'd be changing Canada's plays at the line of scrimmage.Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckHodges
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even those guys make mistakes if they're under constant pressure, anyway, we could lose to them and beat everyone else - i'd take that next seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
If he can!Quote:
Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west
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Like I said,it take both.Talent and coachingQuote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
During the regular season Mahomes would carry the team. In the playoffs with Tomlin's defense giving up 45 ppg over the last 6 seasons he would be exited first round.Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckHodges
The penalty of Marcus Allen is just awful....He need to be gone after this game....You can not accept that!
Do you remember a stupid play like that for the steelers whether it is under Noll,Cowher or Tomlin in a crucial moment in a game?
I can't believe it happen to the pats under Belichick!
So Fire Belichek thread??Quote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
No idea why he is on the team to begin with. Contributes nothing on defenseQuote:
Originally Posted by Lady Steel