FIRE MIKE TOMLIN!!

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Originally Posted by pczach

Was Tomlin right when he said the Steelers' offensive line was excellent in the 49ers game?

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Probably not.

I have long said that NFL mandated media sessions by coaches, players, or whoever are lies, half-truths, propaganda, and overall nonsense.

Coaches across the league throw people to the wolves who they think can handle it and publicly support struggling players/units that the think need a show of faith.

Public comments and private reality are extremely different. Almost every former NFL dude I've seen talk about it has always remarked on what fans were told versus what was actually going on internally.

Hey, if Tomlin gets fired, McDaniels is now available.:chuckle:

The Raiders fired McDickhead?

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

The Raiders fired McDickhead?

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They cleaned house. HC, GM , OC all gone...

He appreciates them? Lol

Turnovers are always good, even if your offense is shitty. For one thing it stops the other teams drive and gives you the chance to at least move the ball downfield and pin the other team deeper in their own territory

maybe he wants the db’s to start batting down catchable balls

Tomlin gets all the credit for winning when the team doesn’t play well and none of the blame for the team not playing well.

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Originally Posted by DesertSteel

Tomlin gets all the credit for winning when the team doesn’t play well and none of the blame for the team not playing well.

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You're probably right.

The thing I find most amazing is the fact that all we keep hearing is that Tomlin wins games. He's a winner. He's a leader of men. It looks ugly most of the time, but the man knows how to win football games and will his team to victory. That's what makes him great.

On the other hand we have Kenny Pickett. Who doesn't always look pretty, at times looks ugly, but when everything is on the line he balls out and finds a way to win games. No matter how much he has struggled, when it matters most he is able to will himself and the team to get it done. He's just a winner and a great leader that players follow.

Yet the same people that use that logic to prop up Tomlin, use it against Kenny Pickett.

Tomlin is ESPN’s Coach of the Year in their mid season awards.

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Originally Posted by DesertSteel

Tomlin is ESPN’s Coach of the Year in their mid season awards.

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That is not the only place that I have seen or heard that being discussed.

Is there a coach in the league whose perception by the home-town fans and the out-of-town fans/media is more spread out than Tomlin's?

How is that? Has he coached past some major adverse conditions? Most of them overcoming is overcoming themselves

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Originally Posted by DesertSteel

Tomlin is ESPN’s Coach of the Year in their mid season awards.

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That’s interesting. I feel like I’ve seen better coaching jobs in previous seasons by Tomlin.

Although, something is putting Ws in the correct column when they seem to be losing everything else on the field…

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Originally Posted by NCSteeler

How is that? Has he coached past some major adverse conditions? [Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

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Have you seen this team play?

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Originally Posted by lipps83

Have you seen this team play?

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I consider pulling a perfect shit play out of your ass at the end of games great coaching.

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He's Jeff Fisher 2.0.

Time to move on from him.

Tomlin 0-27 when trailing by 18+ points.

It's AB's/Bell's fault.
It's Todd Haley's fault.
It's Randy Fichtner's fault.
It's Juju's fault.
It's Ben's fault.
It's Mason/Duck's fault.
It's Claypool's fault.
It's Mitch's fault.
It's Canada's fault.
It's Kenny's fault.

Running out of scapegoats for the hack.

If Art does not extend Tomlin after this year, then he is basically a lame duck coach next season. Maybe Tomlin just walks away in that situation and sets the stage for a new staff to come in?

The fact that this team can’t seem to find GP all game long is completely shocking to me week in and week out. The sloppy plays, illegal formations, the lack of a real game plan week in and week out is getting old. This team won on the back of Ben since Tomlin took over, now he doesn’t have that HOF bound QB to prop him up. I am ready for him to be out of Pittsburgh. Problem is, who is the HC that can come in here pull this team together and put together a winning staff.

The Rooneys would be stupid not to trade Tomlin. There are 10 teams that would take him. Make it happen, Art!

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Tomlin now blaming the turnovers, they got 7 points on theirs and we got 0. He looks clueless.

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Originally Posted by JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue

Tomlin now blaming the turnovers, they got 7 points on theirs and we got 0. He looks clueless.

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He's running out of excuses.

Mike Tomlin setting historical records and they are not good ones.

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Originally Posted by Rotorhead

The fact that this team can’t seem to find GP all game long is completely shocking to me week in and week out. The sloppy plays, illegal formations, the lack of a real game plan week in and week out is getting old. This team won on the back of Ben since Tomlin took over, now he doesn’t have that HOF bound QB to prop him up. I am ready for him to be out of Pittsburgh. Problem is, who is the HC that can come in here pull this team together and put together a winning staff.

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The Steelers found Tomlin and Cowher from nowhere. They can do it again.

It's time to move on.

I wish some reporters would ask Tomlin tougher questions

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There’s something systematically wrong with this team and the one constant has been deer in headlights Tomlin

This is a low point for the Tomlin era. He has no answers. Time to move on.

What sucks is we would be challenging for a SB if we had a good coach like Shanahan. This team and a good coaching staff we would be leading our division right now with the exact same personnel we have. We probably have 2 losses (SF and Jax). Leftwich was begging to come in and be the OC, at the very least we could have hired him as the QB coach when we fired Canada to audition him for OC next season. Tomlin refuses to make any real changes at all or when it is too late.

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Originally Posted by Edman

It's AB's/Bell's fault.
It's Todd Haley's fault.
It's Randy Fichtner's fault.
It's Juju's fault.
It's Ben's fault.
It's Mason/Duck's fault.
It's Claypool's fault.
It's Mitch's fault.
It's Canada's fault.
It's Kenny's fault.

Running out of scapegoats for the hack.

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This. Its time for him to go.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...1409280pit.htm

Funny how this thread was started back on September 28, 2014, where the Steelers just got done laying a Tomlin special to Mike Glennon and the winless Tampa Bay Bucs with Ben, Bell, and AB at home. Of course, that 2014 team would up losing to more bad teams that season and flopped in the postseason as well, and the Steelers have won nothing of note since. '76 and the boys had this fraud pegged from the get go.

It's been nearly ten years since. Ten years waiting for Tomlin to stop the mediocrity, and it's just gotten worse. Time for Tomlin to get on with his life's work.

Listening to these media clowns defending Mike Tomlin after this game makes me want to throw up. They are putting everything on the quarterbacks. Everything. They are basically saying Pickett is trash and poor Tomlin just has no chance with these guys on his team.

Poor Mike Tomlin? The same Mike Tomlin that didn't prepare Kenny Pickett for significant playing time in training camp his rookie season. He names Mitch Trubisky the starting QB, then needs to replace him with Kenny Pickett after 4 games.

He hired Matt Canada and enabled Canada to stay way too long as he destroyed this offense, handcuffed Kenny Pickett, and prevented his development.

Watching this game and seeing Tomlin's team completely outcoached on both sides of the ball with the original gameplan is sickening. Falling behind 21-3 and being completely out coached out of the gate again.

Watching his time mismanagement throughout this entire game is sickening. Blowing timeouts with no rhyme or reason is mind-numbing. Calling a timeout with 2:41 left in the first half, leaving only one timeout remaining actually made the Patriots be more aggressive to pick up the first down instead of just playing defense and trying to get the ball back and having time left to try to score.

Nearly every decision he made during the game was incorrect. They literally came back in this game in spite of Mike Tomlin.

He wasted a defensive interception by not taking the field goal to get within one score. He went for it on 4th and 3 and got nothing.

The defense and special teams bail him out immediately and they block a punt to get the ball deep in Patriots territory and they manage to punch it in and get the 2 point conversion.

Then he calls timeout and goes for it on fourth and inches from their own 30, then punt the ball just a couple plays later with more ridiculous play calling and with less timeouts.

With the ball and a chance to win the game with over 2 minutes left in the game and the 2-minute warning available, they decide to go empty set on 3rd down and 2 instead of having a back in the game to either make the defense defend the run, or they could hand off and probably get the first down. They throw on third down and get nothing. Still over 2 minutes left, they go for it on fourth down again. They throw and don't get the first down. Pretty much game right there.

How is this guy getting praised? Did they even watch the game?

Enough is enough with this blind praise of Mike Tomlin.

Hey everyone did you know Mike Tomlin has never had a losing season? :chuckle:

I've been watching the Steelers for over 60 years and have never rooted against them in my life, but if the Steelers are 8-8 going into the last game of the season and they have no chance to make the playoffs, I will be rooting for the Steelers to lose just so I won't have to hear "Tomlin has never had a losing season" ever again.

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Originally Posted by pczach

With the ball and a chance to win the game with over 2 minutes left in the game and the 2-minute warning available, they decide to go empty set on 3rd down and 2 instead of having a back in the game to either make the defense defend the run, or they could hand off and probably get the first down. They throw on third down and get nothing. Still over 2 minutes left, they go for it on fourth down again. They throw and don't get the first down. Pretty much game right there.

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Matt Canada could have called two better plays in that situation than the plays that were actually called. Seriously.

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Originally Posted by Voice of Reason

Matt Canada could have called two better plays in that situation than the plays that were actually called. Seriously.

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They probably should have spread them out and run the ball on 3rd and 2. They probably get the first down there and you go to the 2 minute warning. Instead they go empty set and run two pass plays to roll right into the 2 minute warning and turnover the ball on downs.

The coaching and play calling just continues to be horrific. They showed signs of doing things better, but this game was a disaster.

Tomlin won't be getting fired. This off-season will be interesting though as 2024 is the last year of his contract, if there is no extension, Tomlin will likely be let go when it expires.

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Originally Posted by Voice of Reason

I've been watching the Steelers for over 60 years and have never rooted against them in my life, but if the Steelers are 8-8 going into the last game of the season and they have no chance to make the playoffs, I will be rooting for the Steelers to lose just so I won't have to hear "Tomlin has never had a losing season" ever again.

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I'm totally with you on that!!

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Originally Posted by Voice of Reason

Matt Canada could have called two better plays in that situation than the plays that were actually called. Seriously.

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You could maybe have called two better plays…Matt Canada could not.

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Originally Posted by BlackAndGold

Tomlin won't be getting fired. This off-season will be interesting though as 2024 is the last year of his contract, if there is no extension, Tomlin will likely be let go when it expires.

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And there lies the problem. If he’s not extended, what OC is going to come in and agree to a contract on the potential that this guy could be let go after 2024? The Rooneys have not had the foresight to figure this out well before continuing on and on with the Matt Canada experiment…the hiring of Canada from the very beginning has been the biggest blunder in the organizations history. There’s not a bigger draft blunder or roster move or coaching move than the hiring of Canada and then keeping him for 4 seasons.

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Originally Posted by 86WARD

And there lies the problem. If he’s not extended, what OC is going to come in and agree to a contract on the potential that this guy could be let go after 2024? The Rooneys have not had the foresight to figure this out well before continuing on and on with the Matt Canada experiment…the hiring of Canada from the very beginning has been the biggest blunder in the organizations history. There’s not a bigger draft blunder or roster move or coaching move than the hiring of Canada and then keeping him for 4 seasons.

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Basically, Tomlin won't be going anywhere unless he decides too.

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Originally Posted by 86WARD

And there lies the problem. If he’s not extended, what OC is going to come in and agree to a contract on the potential that this guy could be let go after 2024?

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With three coaches in 55 years, I doubt that is a big worry for a prospective OC. With half the teams in the league, the coach getting fired is a likelihood.