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Re: Dont'a Hightower to vist the Steelers
Just sign him to see if Hightower can get us in touch with the Pats "video team" lol
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Re: Dont'a Hightower to vist the Steelers
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Originally Posted by
BurghBoy412
Is it Ben? None of them want to play with Ben, huh?
What would possibly make you say that?
The most likely reason is because other teams seem to be willing to pay more than what these players are worth and the Steelers won't.
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Originally Posted by
WCSteeler
Its not good, the Steelers are relying solely on the draft class to make themselves better. As of now Vince Williams replaces Timmons and Jarvis Jones was awful but at least he provided some depth and somewhat knew the system. It's gotta be somewhat concerning that the Steelers have limited visits and House signs with Green Bay while still in Pittsburgh and Hightower walked away from what seems to be a legitimate SB Contender.
As opposed to walking away from the defending Super Bowl champ?
If Hightower wants another ring the most logical place to go is back to New England, which will be favored to win at least the AFC again.
If he wants to accept the max offer it will not be from the Steelers according to ESPN.
If Hightower is looking for the biggest financial score, the Jets will win the bidding war.
http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-je...onta-hightower
The dumbest franchises overpay - take a guess which one of the three that is when choosing between the Pats, Steelers and Jets
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The Steelers were a few players away...now they are a few players and a lot of depth away. They are going backwards at the moment...
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The comment about Ben was a joke man
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Originally Posted by
86WARD
The Steelers were a few players away...now they are a few players and a lot of depth away. They are going backwards at the moment...
I thought Timmons would walk and never thought Hightower would be signed.
But lowballing Cockrell without bringing in a free agent CB is going to create a real problem if they either lose Cockrell or have to match an offer for an amount they did not anticipate he would receive. Not giving Cockrell a higher tender offer while negotiating with a CB who was benched by the horrid Jax Jags is hard to figure.
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Re: Dont'a Hightower to vist the Steelers
Hightower wants to stay in NE. End of story. You can't sign a guy that has Bill Belichick portraits on his living room walls.
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Originally Posted by
AtlantaDan
I thought Timmons would walk and never thought Hightower would be signed.
But lowballing Cockrell without bringing in a free agent CB is going to create a real problem if they either lose Cockrell or have to match an offer for an amount they did not anticipate he would receive. Not giving Cockrell a higher tender offer while negotiating with a CB who was benched by the horrid Jax Jags is hard to figure.
I actually find that encouraging. Cockrell is horrible. He like a 2016 version of Dwayne Washington. He' constantly getting beat. I'll take any CB in the first 4 rounds of the draft over him. Yes, I would prefer to start a rookie instead of go through another season with Cockrell.
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Originally Posted by
86WARD
The Steelers were a few players away...now they are a few players and a lot of depth away. They are going backwards at the moment...
Losing LT and Jarvis Jones
Adding Cam and MB (he'll be reinstated), Golson, and maybe Green.
No way do I see that we're going backwards, especially when you consider adding a year of experience to our three starting rookies on D. Plus the draft.
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Originally Posted by
Shoes
Hightower wants to stay in NE. End of story. You can't sign a guy that has Bill Belichick portraits on his living room walls.
That's kinda creepy bro[emoji102]
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Originally Posted by
AtlantaDan
As opposed to walking away from the defending Super Bowl champ?
If Hightower wants another ring the most logical place to go is back to New England, which will be favored to win at least the AFC again.
If he wants to accept the max offer it will not be from the Steelers according to ESPN.
If Hightower is looking for the biggest financial score, the Jets will win the bidding war.
http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-je...onta-hightower
The dumbest franchises overpay - take a guess which one of the three that is when choosing between the Pats, Steelers and Jets
My point is that the Steelers arrow looks to be pointed down at the moment and it seems free agents are steering clear of them. I realize the Steelers do not make big name free agent signings but last we saw the Steelers had very little pass rush and a very,very soft secondary so it seems like the logical response would be adding players via free agency and not relying on in house solutions and the draft. If the Patriots manhandled the Steelers without all of their offseason moves what makes anyone think they would do any better the next time around
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DesertSteel
Losing LT and Jarvis Jones
Adding Cam and MB (he'll be reinstated), Golson, and maybe Green.
No way do I see that we're going backwards, especially when you consider adding a year of experience to our three starting rookies on D. Plus the draft.
So Cam, a guy that can't make it past training camp and a couple of yet to be named rookies will be the answer vs Brady and the improved Pats offense?
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Originally Posted by
DesertSteel
Losing LT and Jarvis Jones
Adding Cam and MB (he'll be reinstated), Golson, and maybe Green.
No way do I see that we're going backwards, especially when you consider adding a year of experience to our three starting rookies on D. Plus the draft.
You're missing 2 starting CBs, a starting MLB, serious OLB depth and quality edge rushing talent. You haven't added anything to the defense other than at DL which was one of the stronger points for most of the season...and really isn't an add. The weak spots have gotten weaker because there's a talent drop off at the moment. Great...add Golson...he's a bigger question mark than the player they will pick in round one. He's much, much less than dependable at this stage and as for Bryant, he doesn't help the D.
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Originally Posted by
WCSteeler
My point is that the Steelers arrow looks to be pointed down at the moment and it seems free agents are steering clear of them. I realize the Steelers do not make big name free agent signings but last we saw the Steelers had very little pass rush and a very,very soft secondary so it seems like the logical response would be adding players via free agency and not relying on in house solutions and the draft. If the Patriots manhandled the Steelers without all of their offseason moves what makes anyone think they would do any better the next time around
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So Cam, a guy that can't make it past training camp and a couple of yet to be named rookies will be the answer vs Brady and the improved Pats offense?
If the Steeler coaching staff had a real game plan just once against NE it would be a huge step forward. They must hit on every draft pick this year, I'm not counting on Golson or Green. Golson imo is less than a rookie, he hasn't played football in years.
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Originally Posted by
WCSteeler
So Cam, a guy that can't make it past training camp and a couple of yet to be named rookies will be the answer vs Brady and the improved Pats offense?
My COMMENT was in response to a post stating that "The Steelers have gone backwards." Did I say that we were doing better than the Patriots?!
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86WARD
You're missing 2 starting CBs, a starting MLB, serious OLB depth and quality edge rushing talent. You haven't added anything to the defense other than at DL which was one of the stronger points for most of the season...and really isn't an add. The weak spots have gotten weaker because there's a talent drop off at the moment. Great...add Golson...he's a bigger question mark than the player they will pick in round one. He's much, much less than dependable at this stage and as for Bryant, he doesn't help the D.
Who are the TWO STARTING CB's that we are missing???
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Steelers haven't signed anyone yet so apparently it's time to panic :panic:
Honestly, there are still players out there, players that can come cheap and can be role-players, which is the typical free-agent signing anyway. Hope people weren't expecting them to sign $10 million a year or more for someone or expecting them to change their free agency strategy based off of a defeat in the AFC Championship game that had a lot to do with poor game planning
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DesertSteel
My COMMENT was in response to a post stating that "The Steelers have gone backwards." Did I say that we were doing better than the Patriots?!
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Who are the TWO STARTING CB's that we are missing???
guessing whomever will play in Cockrells spot and whomever will play the slot as it is considered a starting spot these days since teams are in nickle and dime more often than base .....
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Originally Posted by
Secondaryconcerns
guessing whomever will play in Cockrells spot and whomever will play the slot as it is considered a starting spot these days since teams are in nickle and dime more often than base .....
Cockrell is still a Steeler.
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DesertSteel
Cockrell is still a Steeler.
but not truly of starter quality and as mark Kaboly wrote he is getting a lot of interest because of his original round tender offer ( 4th round ) teams may be willing to make that gamble even if they do not see him as a starter ....
he is a very good next man up but he isnt " the man "
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Originally Posted by
Secondaryconcerns
but not truly of starter quality and as mark Kaboly wrote he is getting a lot of interest because of his original round tender offer ( 4th round ) teams may be willing to make that gamble even if they do not see him as a starter ....
he is a very good next man up but he isnt " the man "
Right but we didn't lose him. If anything we'll trade him for a 4th round pick, which I doubt anyone will give up for him.
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Originally Posted by
WCSteeler
My point is that the Steelers arrow looks to be pointed down at the moment and it seems free agents are steering clear of them.
Spot on.
The Steelers offered Mike Glennon $16 million/year, and was like: "No way... you guys suck!!!"
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Originally Posted by
WCSteeler
My point is that the Steelers arrow looks to be pointed down at the moment and it seems free agents are steering clear of them.
Steelers bowed out themselves out of Dre Kirkpatrick and Logan Ryan because they recognized neither were worth $10 million plus. House wanted to return to Green Bay and I think Hightower just wants to do the same.
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st33lersguy
Steelers bowed out themselves out of Dre Kirkpatrick and Logan Ryan because they recognized neither were worth $10 million plus. House wanted to return to Green Bay and I think Hightower just wants to do the same.
a simple phone call could have provided insight to those things with the latter 2 FA's though ... time could have been spent elsewhere with a little due diligence one would think
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DesertSteel
Cockrell is still a Steeler.
That is the problem!
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Originally Posted by
DesertSteel
My COMMENT was in response to a post stating that "The Steelers have gone backwards." Did I say that we were doing better than the Patriots?!
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Who are the TWO STARTING CB's that we are missing???
You have Burns and that's it. Cockrell isn't starting quality, he's still here, but he's not starting quality and if you were satisfied with his play last season, you are going to have issues and you're looking to fill Gay's Nickel spot. 1 out of 3 isn't going to cut it. As of right now, the holes are getting bigger as players leave, the "couple" good players away from a championship is becoming a "few" good players...the good thing is this is when Pittsburgh starts finding that under the radar talent.
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Why are the people saying they do not want a player signed, the same exact people now saying we suck because we didn't sign anybody? Nobody on here wanted Glennon, Kirkpatrick, Hightower, and apparently nobody wants Cockrell either. I guess since we are not make some huge splash in FA, we MUST be becoming the Browns or something similar. Lots of good players in this league. Not all of them would work out on this team. Free agency is as big a crap shoot as the draft in some ways. You know what they were, but have no idea what they'll be going forward. You guys need to step off the ledge. This team is not going backward, we are not losing ground on other teams. Take a breath.
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Originally Posted by
86WARD
You're missing 2 starting CBs, a starting MLB, serious OLB depth and quality edge rushing talent. You haven't added anything to the defense other than at DL which was one of the stronger points for most of the season...and really isn't an add. The weak spots have gotten weaker because there's a talent drop off at the moment. Great...add Golson...he's a bigger question mark than the player they will pick in round one. He's much, much less than dependable at this stage and as for Bryant, he doesn't help the D.
If you need a vehicle next fall and the only two cars on the lot at the moment are a loaded Mercedes SL you cannot afford together with a junker leaking transmission fluid do you buy one of those or wait to see what else comes on the market?
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Originally Posted by
AtlantaDan
If you need a vehicle next fall and the only two cars on the lot at the moment are a loaded Mercedes SL you cannot afford together with a junker leaking transmission fluid do you buy one of those or wait to see what else comes on the market?
Lol. Of course you wait. Just like Colbert and Tomlin are waiting. But while they wait, other cars, that are affordable are coming and going. Some cars they are test driving are being sold while they are in the car on the turnpike. I don't think anyone is in a panic, but as the Steelers roster sits today, it is a worse roster than what they had in 2016. So as of now, they have taken a step back. Hopefully "tomorrow" they take two steps forward. But fans can't sit there and act like they are better today because they signed Brown to a long deal and are negotiating with Bell. That doesn't help the team in 2017...it makes them no better.
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Originally Posted by
Born2Steel
Why are the people saying they do not want a player signed, the same exact people now saying we suck because we didn't sign anybody? Nobody on here wanted Glennon, Kirkpatrick, Hightower, and apparently nobody wants Cockrell either. I guess since we are not make some huge splash in FA, we MUST be becoming the Browns or something similar. Lots of good players in this league. Not all of them would work out on this team. Free agency is as big a crap shoot as the draft in some ways. You know what they were, but have no idea what they'll be going forward. You guys need to step off the ledge. This team is not going backward, we are not losing ground on other teams. Take a breath.
I'm all for bringing in Hightower. As well as Barwin, Newman, or Verner. Cockrell and Gay must go. I'd even get rid of Mitchell if his replacement was available. But as far as gay and Cockrell go... I'd rather play rookies.
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