Kenny Pickett traded to Eagles.

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Originally Posted by Dwinsgames

classic example of not letting #FACTS get in the way of your fairy tale propaganda bullshit...

lets start off by saying the Steelers openly told Mason they wanted him back

Mason clearly told the world he was interested but wanted to see what free agency offered him first

meanwhile the steelers cant sit and wait for Mason they have a team to structure and went about their business while mason chased pipe dreams ....

Mason did not like the offers he was getting ( more like not getting) wanted to revisit what the steelers had floated as a potential deal but by then the Steelers signed Russ and had Kenny still thus did not need Mason , Mason then got butt hurt and took 3x less what the steelers rumored offer was to play with Titans ......

Kenny got Butthurt and cried his way out of town and the steelers then snatched up the more talented , more proven player in Fields

but you knew all this it just didnt agree with your Hate patterns , why I bothered to post this is beyond me you will never change your mind even if the shit bit you in the face

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Interesting that you start by claiming that we Mason supporters don't let "facts" get in the way, but then spend the rest of the post trying to make your case by giving only your opinions, without one actual fact. :rofl2:

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Originally Posted by Mojouw

Think about that. In a league where teams start whatever dirtballs the Raiders and NYG were playing last year. No one wanted to give Rudolph the vet minimum. No one wanted to trade a conditional draft pick to give him a shot

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But when Rudolph finally got his chance last year, he proved that all those people in the league who passed him by were wrong.

Think about THAT. :boink:

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Originally Posted by steelcityboyz

You keep bringing up Kennys rotten attitude.. Show some examples please cause I can't find any.

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He refused to dress. He was “inactive” because he was listed as hurt, but come to find after the game that he was healthy? The hen Tomlin tries to cover it up by saying he didn’t play because of lack of reps. Pickett was the starter all season. He had plenty of reps. Dude 100% refused to dress. Not a team player.

He whined and cried when they signed Russell Wilson to upgrade the QB room.

He scoffed at the idea of an open QB competition and requested a trade because he wanted the starting job handed to him.

He was just butt hurt by the Steelers and used the Wilson signing as an excuse to try to get out of Pittsburgh. Why else would he use the excuse of being a back up only to go be a back up? [emoji23]. Guy is a baby with a shitty attitude.

Then the truth came out on the night of the trade:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...fd9af7facf.jpg


Khan clearly wasn’t dealing with Picketts bullshit and shipped him out the day of Wilson’s presser. [emoji23]

Still don’t think he got a fair evaluation under Matt Canada but hell, with that attitude, who cares.

The really hilarious conversation in this thread is how Mason Rudolph is now a legit NFL starter. Being a better QB than Trubisky and Pickett does not equal legit NFL starter caliber. Sitting for years behind Big Ben does not equal Mike Tomlin's doghouse. I think Mason has developed into a legit #1 backup for a legit NFL starting QB on just about any team. The tricky part is with the Steelers current situation. Would we rather have Mason or Fields as the backup to Russ? Because Russ is the legit NFL starter. I think, just my own opinion, Fields fits this offense and the style of Russ better than Mason would. Therefore, in the case we need a backup the offense stays more the same than if we had to switch to Mason. Russ/Fields is the best combo for THIS offense, THIS season.

I also might like John Rhys Plumlee in this offense over Kyle Allen. Although Allen has a much better arm, Plumlee is head and shoulders better athletically. Both can make the throws in an Arthur Smith PA offense.

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Originally Posted by Voice of Reason

But when Rudolph finally got his chance last year, he proved that all those people in the league who passed him by were wrong.

Think about THAT. :boink:

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Nope. He put numbers up against bottom tier defenses.

Then pooped the bed in the wildcard game by looking exactly like who the league thought he was- a middling backup QB.

Then, in the FA period where any team could’ve signed him (again), one team submitted a one year bottom of the barrel contract.

Mason Rudolph will be out of the NFL by this time next year.

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Originally Posted by Mojouw

Nope. He put numbers up against bottom tier defenses.

Then pooped the bed in the wildcard game by looking exactly like who the league thought he was- a middling backup QB.

Then, in the FA period where any team could’ve signed him (again), one team submitted a one year bottom of the barrel contract.

Mason Rudolph will be out of the NFL by this time next year.

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He ran the plays that were called and made the throws he was supposed to make. Just like he did at OkState. When the play is, '#22 is going to run a shallow cross so throw him the ball', Mason can look like a pretty good QB. When the play is, 'we need a first down/score here and it's up to you', Mason looks like a deer in the headlights.

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Originally Posted by Born2Steel

He ran the plays that were called and made the throws he was supposed to make. Just like he did at OkState. When the play is, '#22 is going to run a shallow cross so throw him the ball', Mason can look like a pretty good QB. When the play is, 'we need a first down/score here and it's up to you', Mason looks like a deer in the headlights.

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That’s a fair and reasonable assessment.

Personally, I’ve got little interest in rostering that type of QB for longer than one contract.

Either he develops into more than that or you cut him and get the next draft eligible QB who can do that and try again.

But I’m not paid by an NFL team for my decisions.

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Originally Posted by Voice of Reason

But when Rudolph finally got his chance last year, he proved that all those people in the league who passed him by were wrong.

Think about THAT. :boink:

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How can you possibly debate a guy who actually believes this?? Let me get this straight, Tomlin was holding Rudy back from becoming the franchise QB that he should have been. Did Tomlin block teams from signing him last 2 years as well. Rudy had 3 good games which showed he’s a decent backup and has great character and seems to be well liked. Most of us thought he earned a raise and someone would overpay for his services due to a little success. He’s exactly where he should be. Backing up a franchise QB and possibly mentoring him. All owners and GMs see his ceiling but somehow it’s much higher in your mind. Dobbs had a little success last couple of years as well but he reverted back to back up. A few good games don’t define a QB.

I think Rudolph is fine as backup....But as starter in the long run,no way!

I find it funny that people are spending so much effort trying to justify that MR is not a good starter. Newsflash: he was never drafted to be a starter or Ben’s heir apparent. He was drafted to be a solid backup with an outside chance to maybe be a type of bridge starter. Which is exactly what hes proved to be. He wouldve been fine as backup to Russ. We know he can win you some games. With fields, we dont know what were going to get. From what i hear about him he was prone to turning over the ball and was inconsistent. Maybe he’ll be ok as a backup and win a game or two, or maybe he’ll be more like Trubisky and throw into double and triple coverages.

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Originally Posted by Born2Steel

The really hilarious conversation in this thread is how Mason Rudolph is now a legit NFL starter. Being a better QB than Trubisky and Pickett does not equal legit NFL starter caliber. Sitting for years behind Big Ben does not equal Mike Tomlin's doghouse. I think Mason has developed into a legit #1 backup for a legit NFL starting QB on just about any team. The tricky part is with the Steelers current situation. Would we rather have Mason or Fields as the backup to Russ? Because Russ is the legit NFL starter. I think, just my own opinion, Fields fits this offense and the style of Russ better than Mason would. Therefore, in the case we need a backup the offense stays more the same than if we had to switch to Mason. Russ/Fields is the best combo for THIS offense, THIS season.

I also might like John Rhys Plumlee in this offense over Kyle Allen. Although Allen has a much better arm, Plumlee is head and shoulders better athletically. Both can make the throws in an Arthur Smith PA offense.

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I agree with your this offense ,this season assessment.

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Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west

I find it funny that people are spending so much effort trying to justify that MR is not a good starter. Newsflash: he was never drafted to be a starter or Ben’s heir apparent. He was drafted to be a solid backup with an outside chance to maybe be a type of bridge starter. Which is exactly what hes proved to be. He wouldve been fine as backup to Russ. We know he can win you some games. With fields, we dont know what were going to get. From what i hear about him he was prone to turning over the ball and was inconsistent. Maybe he’ll be ok as a backup and win a game or two, or maybe he’ll be more like Trubisky and throw into double and triple coverages.

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The upside of Fields is way higher that Rudolph,Pickett and even Wilson....This is a high risk,high reward QB....He had his moment,just not consistent enough but he has a lot of talent and if Smith is able to play to his strengths, who knows what can happen if Fields has the chance to start

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Originally Posted by Born2Steel

The really hilarious conversation in this thread is how Mason Rudolph is now a legit NFL starter. Being a better QB than Trubisky and Pickett does not equal legit NFL starter caliber. Sitting for years behind Big Ben does not equal Mike Tomlin's doghouse. I think Mason has developed into a legit #1 backup for a legit NFL starting QB on just about any team. The tricky part is with the Steelers current situation. Would we rather have Mason or Fields as the backup to Russ? Because Russ is the legit NFL starter. I think, just my own opinion, Fields fits this offense and the style of Russ better than Mason would. Therefore, in the case we need a backup the offense stays more the same than if we had to switch to Mason. Russ/Fields is the best combo for THIS offense, THIS season.

I also might like John Rhys Plumlee in this offense over Kyle Allen. Although Allen has a much better arm, Plumlee is head and shoulders better athletically. Both can make the throws in an Arthur Smith PA offense.

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BUT IF THEY JUST WOULDVE LET MASON HAVE A CHANCE!!! 6-Years...just wasn't enough!!

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Originally Posted by polamalubeast

The upside of Fields is way higher that Rudolph,Pickett and even Wilson....This is a high risk,high reward QB....He had his moment,just not consistent enough but he has a lot of talent and if Smith is able to play to his strengths, who knows what can happen if Fields has the chance to start

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Maybe, Smith helped improve Tannehill’s play. Maybe he can do the same for Fields. Its always dependent on how much a guy is willing to put in the extra time to work and improve. Put off going to the clubs and parties and just work. Bill Walsh turned Steve Young into an all star and Hall of Famer but Young put in the work. Otherwise he would be another bust.

The difference is MR is already a good reliable backup. Fields is all unrealized potential, not much else. To me hes a slightly more athletic MT, when MT was coming out of Chicago. At least MT had one good year there.

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Originally Posted by 86WARD

He refused to dress. He was “inactive” because he was listed as hurt, but come to find after the game that he was healthy? The hen Tomlin tries to cover it up by saying he didn’t play because of lack of reps. Pickett was the starter all season. He had plenty of reps. Dude 100% refused to dress. Not a team player.

He whined and cried when they signed Russell Wilson to upgrade the QB room.

He scoffed at the idea of an open QB competition and requested a trade because he wanted the starting job handed to him.

He was just butt hurt by the Steelers and used the Wilson signing as an excuse to try to get out of Pittsburgh. Why else would he use the excuse of being a back up only to go be a back up? [emoji23]. Guy is a baby with a shitty attitude.

Then the truth came out on the night of the trade:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...fd9af7facf.jpg


Khan clearly wasn’t dealing with Picketts bullshit and shipped him out the day of Wilson’s presser. [emoji23]

Still don’t think he got a fair evaluation under Matt Canada but hell, with that attitude, who cares.

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Dulac, enough said. thank you

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Originally Posted by steelcityboyz

Dulac, enough said. thank you

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That’s just one of a few media reporting it. [emoji23]

Bad attitude Kenny.

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Originally Posted by 86WARD

That’s just one of a few media reporting it. [emoji23]

Bad attitude Kenny.

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FAKE NEWS>> :lol:

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Originally Posted by 86WARD

That’s just one of a few media reporting it. [emoji23]

Bad attitude Kenny.

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You could have video footage and 2-3 in here would find a way to deny it.

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Originally Posted by 86WARD

He refused to dress. He was “inactive” because he was listed as hurt, but come to find after the game that he was healthy? The hen Tomlin tries to cover it up by saying he didn’t play because of lack of reps. Pickett was the starter all season. He had plenty of reps. Dude 100% refused to dress. Not a team player.

He whined and cried when they signed Russell Wilson to upgrade the QB room.

He scoffed at the idea of an open QB competition and requested a trade because he wanted the starting job handed to him.

He was just butt hurt by the Steelers and used the Wilson signing as an excuse to try to get out of Pittsburgh. Why else would he use the excuse of being a back up only to go be a back up? [emoji23]. Guy is a baby with a shitty attitude.

Then the truth came out on the night of the trade:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...fd9af7facf.jpg


Khan clearly wasn’t dealing with Picketts bullshit and shipped him out the day of Wilson’s presser. [emoji23]

Still don’t think he got a fair evaluation under Matt Canada but hell, with that attitude, who cares.

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Everything you wrote here is either conjecture, or has been denied. But since it puts Kenny in a bad light, it somehow becomes undeniable FACT. :willy:

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Originally Posted by Born2Steel

The really hilarious conversation in this thread is how Mason Rudolph is now a legit NFL starter

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Who said that??? :huh:

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Originally Posted by Mojouw

Nope. He put numbers up against bottom tier defenses.

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Which is exactly what a good QB is supposed to do.

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Originally Posted by Mojouw

Then pooped the bed in the wildcard game

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Pooped the bed? Hardly. He didn't win the game and made one terrible pass in the end zone, but brought the team back to where the Steelers were still in it in the second half until the defense gave it away again. He wasn't great, but he was far from "pooping the bed".

Like I said, you Mason-bashers who were proved wrong think that if you keep writing this stuff that you can make people forget what they saw with their own eyes.

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Originally Posted by cubanstogie

Let me get this straight, Tomlin was holding Rudy back from becoming the franchise QB that he should have been.

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Franchise QB??? When did anyone ever say THAT?

You guys apparently realize that you can't rebut what I actually said, so you pretend I said something else that is easy to knock down. Then when you knock down this imaginary thing that YOU created, you act like you won some great victory over ME. If that's all you got, I accept your surrender. :boink:

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Originally Posted by DesertSteel

You could have video footage and 2-3 in here would find a way to deny it.

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You mean like the people here who are still bashing Mason when there's plenty of video footage to the contrary?

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Originally Posted by DesertSteel

You could have video footage and 2-3 in here would find a way to deny it.

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Where there’s smoke…

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Originally Posted by Voice of Reason

Like I said, you Mason-bashers who were proved wrong think that if you keep writing this stuff that you can make people forget what they saw with their own eyes.

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you mean exactly what you do with KP8 ...... you keep writing shit thinking we will forget what we witnessed with our own eyes ... 13 TD -13 int -4474 yards passing in 25 games (178 yards per game average)

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Originally Posted by Voice of Reason

Franchise QB??? When did anyone ever say THAT?

You guys apparently realize that you can't rebut what I actually said, so you pretend I said something else that is easy to knock down. Then when you knock down this imaginary thing that YOU created, you act like you won some great victory over ME. If that's all you got, I accept your surrender. :boink:

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Okay I’ll dummy it down for you. You’ve mentioned Rudy was held back by Tomlin and was in his doghouse. If Rudy somehow was a starter or franchise QB maybe your argument could’ve been valid. But we all know he’s not. He’s a capable backup and earned a raise for 2024. Great for him. I’m wondering how Tomlin and per your statement all other teams were wrong about Rudy and you were right. They all knew he was a backup, he was and still is. So what were you right about and they were wrong? It sure implies you view him more than backup.

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Originally Posted by cubanstogie

Okay I’ll dummy it down for you. You’ve mentioned Rudy was held back by Tomlin and was in his doghouse. If Rudy somehow was a starter or franchise QB maybe your argument could’ve been valid. But we all know he’s not. He’s a capable backup and earned a raise for 2024. Great for him. I’m wondering how Tomlin and per your statement all other teams were wrong about Rudy and you were right. They all knew he was a backup, he was and still is. So what were you right about and they were wrong? It sure implies you view him more than backup.

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He may not even be that good of a backup as he was signed to the Steelers, at the end of free agency, as a third string option. They did him a favor and gave him another year to prove what he couldn’t do in 5 offseasons, preseasons, regular seasons and post seasons before…lol

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Originally Posted by DesertSteel

You could have video footage and 2-3 in here would find a way to deny it.

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Back at you.. You could have footage that he didn't do anything wrong, and 2-3 would find a way to deny it also. Heck unless Tomlin is lying he said KP didn't do anything wrong either. See, it's a futile argument. Nobody wins. The only person that won is KP he got out of a shitty situation here.

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Originally Posted by steelcityboyz

Back at you.. You could have footage that he didn't do anything wrong, and 2-3 would find a way to deny it also. Heck unless Tomlin is lying he said KP didn't do anything wrong either. See, it's a futile argument. Nobody wins. The only person that won is KP he got out of a shitty situation here.

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Steelers fans win as well. We’ll definitely see more than 6 TDs this year.

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Originally Posted by cubanstogie

Steelers fans win as well. We’ll definitely see more than 6 TDs this year.

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Hopefully, with a new OC.

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Originally Posted by steelcityboyz

Hopefully, with a new OC.

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Yep. I’m sure some will be arguing on here who’s responsible for offensive success this year. Personally I don’t care who gets credit as long as it’s successful.