I will just leave this here .... I am the majority !

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I have an old smaller liberty centurion safe with electronic lock that crapped out a couple different times. No long key for it, had to wait for the locksmith to open it. Good thing they have lifetime warranty. I did get a liberty fatboy safe and I made sure it had a dial. The small one is now an ammo/overflow catch all safe.

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Yep, that's what I'm afraid of. I do like the idea of having a longkey hidden in another safe though.

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I think I already answered that. If course, there's some other stuff that goes with it as well, but I think what I said in the earlier post is about 75 percent of the problem, with another 25 percent going to the broken metanarratives.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/civilian-s...opstories.html

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Yet, the media in general is very quiet about this story. Hmmmm, I wonder why?

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Yet, the media in general is very quiet about this story. Hmmmm, I wonder why?

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doesn't fit the narrative ... I was really shocked it was on yahoo

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I do not agree that the average American should have military grade weapons in their home.

However, the constitution does give that right to the average American. And that is the part I do agree with. I am against any movement that takes rights away from the average American.

I grew up with guns in the house so maybe I am biased. But I completely agree that the entire reason we live in a free society now, is because we have the right to bear arms, and not just the hunting rifle variety, but a right to the military grade weapons as well. How and why do people slip through the system is a completely different topic for conversation, and the conversation that needs to be had rather than what guns are within my rights to own.

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doesn't fit the narrative ... I was really shocked it was on yahoo

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Exactly. There are probably many stories like this, but liberals want to keep them quiet so they can push their anti-gun agenda.

I laugh when I hear liberals claim the NRA is responsible for shootings.

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yeah I knew that, I was being sarcastic. :chuckle:

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Define military grade.

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Haha. Sadly, that's pretty much true

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Haha. Sadly, that's pretty much true

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good thing it doesnt have a single point harness and carry handle too ......

I have had my last dominoes pizza ....

delivery driver delivers a pizza walks back to his car and the man runs out and attacks him with a knife injuries so bad he had to be life flighted to a Pittsburgh hospital , he pulls his gun shoots and kills the attacker and is FIRED from his job ......

https://www.wtae.com/article/one-per...falls/22694860

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I have had my last dominoes pizza ....

delivery driver delivers a pizza walks back to his car and the man runs out and attacks him with a knife injuries so bad he had to be life flighted to a Pittsburgh hospital , he pulls his gun shoots and kills the attacker and is FIRED from his job ......

https://www.wtae.com/article/one-per...falls/22694860

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Actually, that is understandable. Had he fired and missed, or even hit the guy but the bullet penetrated without opening (assuming a hollow point) and then hit someone else, it puts the company in jeopardy of a major lawsuit. That lawsuit is even bigger if there is evidence they allow or encourage their drivers to be armed. I don't like it, personally, but from a pure business perspective, I get it. The same thing happens when night clerks in gas stations and corner stores pull guns. Most of the time, they're fired, too, and probably for the same reasons.

Of course, the saving grace is it was a franchise, so as long as you don't buy from that franchise, you can still buy Dominoes!

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I have had my last dominoes pizza ....

delivery driver delivers a pizza walks back to his car and the man runs out and attacks him with a knife injuries so bad he had to be life flighted to a Pittsburgh hospital , he pulls his gun shoots and kills the attacker and is FIRED from his job ......

https://www.wtae.com/article/one-per...falls/22694860

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What a shame that this is our America.

you are the majority, friend.

...Still, there are narcissistic, blathering idots who will rationalize this without even acknowledging how tragic this is on so many levels.

Thanks for sharing. :drink:

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I have had my last dominoes pizza ....

delivery driver delivers a pizza walks back to his car and the man runs out and attacks him with a knife injuries so bad he had to be life flighted to a Pittsburgh hospital , he pulls his gun shoots and kills the attacker and is FIRED from his job ......

https://www.wtae.com/article/one-per...falls/22694860

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I managed a PJs Pizza when my wife was finishing college. Our policy was no guns on property, and yes the cars were considered company property while making deliveries. I told my drivers this but also told them just don't give me a reason to need to search your vehicle. If you have your carry permit that's a good thing. I had been robbed on delivery, 2 others I worked with had been robbed on delivery, a store a town over had a driver shot and killed and his car stolen. Delivery drivers should carry a gun and should be well educated on how and when to use it. AND it may not be 'manly' enough for some, but a .22 works just as well as a personal protection weapon in your car as any larger caliber would. You don't have to remove the head.

I hope he sues the franchise and franchisee

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I managed a PJs Pizza when my wife was finishing college. Our policy was no guns on property, and yes the cars were considered company property while making deliveries. I told my drivers this but also told them just don't give me a reason to need to search your vehicle. If you have your carry permit that's a good thing. I had been robbed on delivery, 2 others I worked with had been robbed on delivery, a store a town over had a driver shot and killed and his car stolen. Delivery drivers should carry a gun and should be well educated on how and when to use it. AND it may not be 'manly' enough for some, but a .22 works just as well as a personal protection weapon in your car as any larger caliber would. You don't have to remove the head.

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22 can be great but can be very under powered at the same time , shot placement is more critical for sure ... that said many trauma surgeons claim a 22 bullet wound are some of the worst they have to deal with , the bullet is not powerful enough to go through if it hits a bone and ricochets around inside the body until it exits or is stopped tearing up everything in its path making it very difficult to repair the damage

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me too

Anecdotal evidence <> data, but yeah... I lost my best friend/ big brother to a .22 magnum this spring. The damage was catastrophic and he died almost instantly.

The main reason a .22 isn't preferable for a carry weapon is that the rimfire primer isn't as reliable as a centerfire.