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Re: Offseason thread(News,Rumors,etc)
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willy
Super Bowls or NFL Campionships won
RB
Jim Brown: 1
Walter Payton: 1
Barry Sanders: 0
Eric Dickerson: 0
LaDainian Tomlinson: 0
QB
Tom Brady: 7
Joe Montana: 4
Terry Bradshaw: 4
Troy Aikman: 3
I agree, but you conveniently left off Emmitt Smith 3 and Franco Harris 4.
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Re: Offseason thread(News,Rumors,etc)
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86WARD
Ruh-oh Shaggy!
I feel like everyone is talking about the Lamar Jackson contract $$$ and what should and should not be guaranteed. But no one seems to be raising an eyebrow at home much guaranteed cash and overall cash that Jones took home. This dude is bottom third QB. He is a suspect passer who bails himself out by running and has only played well when supported by great play calling. And that's worth $82 million guaranteed. But a better than suspect passer who also runs and did so well enough to be the MVP of the league and has never had a decent play caller isn't worth 3 times that guarantee?
I just do not understand how teams are talking themselves into Jones and out of Jackson unless it is coming explicitly from the owners box.
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Mojouw
Ruh-oh Shaggy!
I feel like everyone is talking about the Lamar Jackson contract $$$ and what should and should not be guaranteed. But no one seems to be raising an eyebrow at home much guaranteed cash and overall cash that Jones took home. This dude is bottom third QB. He is a suspect passer who bails himself out by running and has only played well when supported by great play calling. And that's worth $82 million guaranteed. But a better than suspect passer who also runs and did so well enough to be the MVP of the league and has never had a decent play caller isn't worth 3 times that guarantee?
I just do not understand how teams are talking themselves into Jones and out of Jackson unless it is coming explicitly from the owners box.
Daboll. It’s all about what he thinks. If he thinks he’s worth it, then he sees something in him, just like he did Allen, and that carries the weight.
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86WARD
Daboll. It’s all about what he thinks. If he thinks he’s worth it, then he sees something in him, just like he did Allen, and that carries the weight.
I guess and Daboll and Kafka (I think) believe that Jones can move from the 20th best QB to the 12-15 range....then paying him that kind of coin makes some sense.
I feel like every critical argument that people level against Jackson could be leveled times 3 or 4 at Jones. And that dude just got over $80 million guaranteed and over $100 million?
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I think the coaches/GMs around these players have told all of us what they’re worth. We don’t have to agree, and typically do not, but there it is.
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Mojouw
I guess and Daboll and Kafka (I think) believe that Jones can move from the 20th best QB to the 12-15 range....then paying him that kind of coin makes some sense.
I feel like every critical argument that people level against Jackson could be leveled times 3 or 4 at Jones. And that dude just got over $80 million guaranteed and over $100 million?
Not that Jones will be the next Josh Allen but there was a point where he didn’t deserve that kind of money either. They could’ve just overpaid or they could’ve just gotten a steal…only time will tell.
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This is possible that Daniel Jones is not a good QB but he was in a awful situation in the first 3 years and last year,he had a better head coach and Barkley was healthy but their receiver core were bad...I think you can win with him and he can have some good moment.Maybe he could be good like Dak Prescott in his good years...we will see but I could be very wrong too!
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The thing is, if you have a #12-15 QB you can move on and run the risk of joining 50% of the league with a #16-32 QB, or try to build around the strengths of your #12-15 QB and be a playoff team. Seems smart to do the latter unless you’re presented with a clear path to a franchise QB.
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Patriots’ S Devin McCourty announced his retirement
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Re: Offseason thread(News,Rumors,etc)
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DesertSteel
The thing is, if you have a #12-15 QB you can move on and run the risk of joining 50% of the league with a #16-32 QB, or try to build around the strengths of your #12-15 QB and be a playoff team. Seems smart to do the latter unless you’re presented with a clear path to a franchise QB.
But that offense was pretty much just Jones and Barkley. If they were to add some receivers and a receiving TE, they may be something to talk about…
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86WARD
But that offense was pretty much just Jones and Barkley. If they were to add some receivers and a receiving TE, they may be something to talk about…
I’m sure that’s their goal. That Lions receiver they signed was a total bust.
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DesertSteel
I’m sure that’s their goal. That Lions receiver they signed was a total bust.
Big time. If they hit on him and Toney doesn’t go crazy, they’re in good shape…
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86WARD
I certainly feel better about Kenny Pickett after being forced to read that list.
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Jalen Ramsey with the dolphins?
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This is official...Ramsey with Miami for only a 3rd round pick....
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polamalubeast
This is official...Ramsey with Miami for only a 3rd round pick....
I guess the bill for “F them picks” came due.
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polamalubeast
This is official...Ramsey with Miami for only a 3rd round pick....
Tyreek Hill/Jalen Ramsey drama will make the Dolphins practices interesting…
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polamalubeast
This is official...Ramsey with Miami for only a 3rd round pick....
And a huge guaranteed salary.
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86WARD
Tyreek Hill/Jalen Ramsey drama will make the Dolphins practices interesting…
The other WR and CB not too shabby either for the Dolphins.
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Dolphins and just like the Chargers -- offseason teasers.
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Dolphins defense is shaping up to look nice on paper…plus the addition of Fangio.
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The jets and the packers are still waiting for the decision of Rodgers.....
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Jimmy G with the raiders or texans?
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