Cool. The state bird of Wisconsin.Quote:
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Cool. The state bird of Wisconsin.Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
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Boston fans are often classless.
I mean, no one in Boston had forgiven Bill Burkner for his mistake in 1986 for at least 20 years,despite that he was not the real reason for their lost against the Mets.
Well maybe if you actually thought about it, you'd get it. But instead you just post bullsh*t about a city, and a team, you know nothing about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
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See. Nonsense.Quote:
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Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
It's true that no one in Boston had forgiven Buckner for at least 20 years.
19 years.Quote:
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Originally Posted by polamalubeast
19 or 20 years, I don't care.Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
The point is that Boston were classless with Buckner even if he was not the true reason for the defeat against the Mets.
The bullpen and their manager was.
"Yankees pitcher CC Sabithia, "Boston is the only place I've ever been called a ******. We expect racism..."
Oh my, a major American city full of working class grandsons, and great grandsons, of immigrants from Ireland, and Italy, etc., and some of them are racist. Gee, what a shock.
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We love Buckner.Quote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
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Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
Regardless of any of the other perceived shortcomings that led to Boston's loss in the 1986 World Series, Buckner's error epitomized the "Curse of the Bambino" in the minds of Red Sox fans, and he soon became the scapegoat for a frustrated fan base.[13] Buckner began receiving death threats and was heckled and booed by some of his own home fans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Buckner
All true. We're passionate about the Red Sox.Quote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
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Originally Posted by Mojouw
BTW, on a personal note. My younger brother died In Wisconsin. I flew back and forth from Boston a couple of times a week while he was dying, for 5 months, to be with him. Further, the best squad leader I had in Vietnam was buried on his fathers farm in Wisconsin. So I feel a strong connection to the state.
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Originally Posted by Mojouw
He's not here to make a point. He's here to be a dick.
We gladly accept and discuss football with any other fans that truly want to do that and don't just look to piss people off.
This douchebag wants to sit back and poke people and tell himself he's the smartest guy on the internet. Just another self described football savant that doesn't seem to realize that he may be talking to people that actually played the game and understand it more than he does.
There's nothing wrong with loving and supporting your team. We all do. I just can't stand fans that feel the need to go to other teams' message boards and be assholes to other fans for no apparent reason....including Steelers fans that do it.
There's just no need for it. It's completely classless and juvenile.
See, even this is feeding the troll. You call him an asshole, he gets off on it because he got a reaction from you. Don't engage him. Just. Don't. Do. It.Quote:
Originally Posted by pczach
You know whose defensive roster I really like: the Browns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
I bet if one were to look at their statistics by quarter, they're as good as anyone in the first quarter... but, because they have no offense, I bet they give up a lot of points (get tired) in the fourth quarter.
I agree. The Browns are average QB play away from competent. That'll be weird.Quote:
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Again, all I said was it takes more then talent. Totally innocent, but accurate statement. If it had been taken that way none of this would have happened. Geesus key'rist, you people need to relax.
Every Steeler team, every year, is a different team. Just like every other team in the NFL. You can have some cornerstone players, but that doesn't guarantee they will jell with the new players, their contracts, a new coach, a change in the system, aging, the loss of a player, injuries, so on and so forth. Talented players are great, but a type of player is better.
Also if they stick to a head coach instead of change coaches every 1-2 yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by st33lersguy
In the AFCN, three teams stick with a coach. All three teams have made the playoffs numerous times, and two of those three have actually won a playoff game.
Whew!!! Thank goodness they've got Kizer. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
Really though, I hope that he plays just well enough so that the Browns do NOT draft Darnold or Rosen.
Yeah. I hope he turns into a version of Tannehill. Just good enough to get multiple coaches fired!Quote:
Originally Posted by teegre
Okay, on a purely football note -- that bolded and italicized bit is really really far in the tank for the "Patriots Way" or whatever the New England sports talking heads have branded it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
Having a system and a game-plan is great. Finding players that fit that system is also an excellent idea. Better yet, figure out a system that gets value out of players that other teams are not valuing!
All of that is good and pretty universally attempted across the NFL and even the NCAA. But there is NO TEAM EVER THAT CONSISTENTLY LEFT TALENT ON THE TABLE FOR "SYSTEM" GUYS.
Even your beloved Patriots loaded up on "Talent" this off-season. If it was all about system/types of players they wouldn't have signed the big name FA CB -- they would have just drafted another "who?" name in the 5th round and plugged him into their "Patriot Way" Machine.
Ok, you pick the thoroughbred, with the big contract, and the $250,000 car in the parking lot, and we'll take Edelman, and Hogan, for 1/2 the cost, with pickup trucks in the parking lot. Those "system" players as you call them are system players because they buy into the system. They're malleable. That is their type.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
"NO TEAM EVER THAT CONSISTENTLY LEFT TALENT ON THE TABLE FOR "SYSTEM" GUYS."
The Patriots do that all the time every time they trade away a high draft pick, or trade down, or let a talented player go. All of which they do all the time.
These big time "talented" players come and go all the time, and 99% don't do shit except draw a check, put some asses in the seats, and make it look like the teams owner is trying to win. Big deal.
And there is the reply I was fishing for. A hint of racism. A pinch of Patriot fan-boy. And a whole ton of "not the actual truth".Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
Prominent Patriot FA signings during the recent "system" focused run:
Randy Moss (This dude doesn't even know the meaning of the world malleable.)
Corey Dillon
Revis (the ultimate mercenary DB)
Rodney Harrison
Adalius Thomas (that guy was not humble and system oriented)
Brandon Cooks (If they are so satisfied with Edelman and Hogan why did they go out and get this young, talented, and soon to be expensive as hell deep threat WR? Maybe he has a sweet pick-up!)
Stephon Gilmore (most expensive and TALENTED free agent DB on the market)
Most often, that draft pick trading results in an extremely low 1st round pick being turned into a middle round 1st round pick the following year and a second round pick in the current draft. That's just smart -- not attempting to pass on talented players. In fact, many of the most recent key cogs in the Pats defense (Hightower, Collins, Jones) were all drafted with one of those "high" talented focused draft picks the Pats don't need. But, hey let's not let facts get in the way of really good fantasy.
And yes, I am aware that those guys were all moved off the roster at the end of their cheap-o rookie deals. Doesn't change the fact that they were all drafted high, used their talent to make a major positive impact on the team, etc.
Looking at this list - http://www.pro-football-reference.co.../nwe/draft.htm
And this list - http://www.pro-football-reference.co.../pit/draft.htm
The Steelers have far more low round (5-7) guys playing for them or still in the NFL then the Pats do. The Steelers also feature far more UDFA's in prominent roles.
So, please, tell me more about your totally made-up and mythologized "Patriot System". I can't wait to hear more about pick-up trucks and hard working gym rat (white) players.
Even when you try to make a point, you don't have anything worthwhile to say. You don't know shit about the NFL and you actually know very little about your own team. Let me guess, your opinion totally aligns with either the Sports Hub or WEEI - maybe even both.
One final note, tell me again how the Pats 16 year run has been fueled by a "system" when you have the GOAT under center?
>>A hint of racism<< >>I can't wait to hear more about pick-up trucks and hard working gym rat (white) players.<<Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
Talk to yourself.
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I'm only getting half the debate because BostonBlackie and his pencil thin milk mustache are on my ignore list.
I have no issues with Pat fans that want to hang out on Steelers forums in the off season That said start mentioning the Giants and they will flee like cockroaches when the lights turn on.
Here in Boston we hold the Giants, and Tom Coughlin, in high regard.Quote:
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You should and you guys are Tom and Eli's bitches. I'm cool with ya and I actually meant Tom back in 2,000 when he was still coaching the Jags at Jacksonville.Quote:
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I'm out of here and have a great night and Happy 4th Boston! Peace!
They just need to be better against great passing offense and this defense will be very good.