I think they have better shot at SB with a guy who threw for 3000, 26 TDs and only 8 interceptions in 15 games than the crap we had last year. He had wins against Chiefs and Bills as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west
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I think they have better shot at SB with a guy who threw for 3000, 26 TDs and only 8 interceptions in 15 games than the crap we had last year. He had wins against Chiefs and Bills as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west
Just a little bit better…..Quote:
Originally Posted by cubanstogie
Once they complete the trade for DK next week, their chances will be even better!
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Ok, AB on CTESPN. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
That crazy fool has been more accurate than the fake beat reporters and bloggers, though
The only truly invaluable commodity in the current NFL is time.
Draft picks and cap space can be manipulated.
But you can’t make guys younger or contract extensions go away.
The Steelers are to be criticized for drafting KP and yoking him to a crap offense. And they are to be complimented for not wasting any time in moving on.
It is what a smart and well run organization should do.
True, i’m not doubting the better chances with Wilson for 2024/25. The best realistic version of KP this season was postseason as a WC and maybe an upset win in the WC round. It just remains to be seen if this was the best long term move.Quote:
Originally Posted by cubanstogie
They can manipulate contract extensions to the point where they aren’t nearly as bad as what they originally appear…Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
I meant that you have to either sign them or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
They have a 1-2 year window where they can afford anything. Then not so much.
Gotcha…Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
No, all he has to do is play better than Russell Wilson.Quote:
Originally Posted by fansince'76
You have nailed it exactly. This is what the "Why are you still talking about the Kenny trade?" crowd is ignoring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edman
That probably deserves its own thread...Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
It's going to take quite a bit more than that for Steelers fans to still be talking about Pickett as "the one that got away" 40 years from now like they do Marino.Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
Kenny Pickett was traded? First I heard of it. You would think there would be more discussion about that around here.
Totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by oneforthetoe
I think we desperately need to start some more new Kenny Pickett threads to bring much-needed attention to this overlooked fact.
I think it's only natural people are still going to be talking about Kenny for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler
He can surpass Marino in one season by winning a Super Bowl.Quote:
Originally Posted by fansince'76
Absolutely 100% correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
I always argue the point of Trent Dilfer being a better QB than Dan Marino by that same argument. Nobody ever agrees with me, but that's just because they aren't as smart as I am. They don't realize that the other 52 players on the team are just irrelevant when compared to the importance of the QB position.
Just win baby!
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Another awful take....and unless a miracle the only way Pickett will win the super bowl,it will be with a 2000 Ravens caliber defense who gave up only 10 PPG in the regular season or less come playoffs time or he won as backup QBQuote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
I think Tony Banks is a better quarterback than Dan Marino. He was Dilfer's backup and he has a Super Bowl ring too.Quote:
Originally Posted by lipps83
If we just had Wilson's production last year, we would have been the #12 offense vs #28.
Not sure how anyone can't be happy with having Russell under center this season instead of Kenny.
Because Russell was not good enough to reverse the fortunes of the Broncos. They were garbage, but now they were garbage with a anchor contract. The Broncos team had Wilson's production the last two seasons and were completely willing to eat his contract just so he couldn't play there anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler
At least with Kenny, you have an evaluating on him with Arthur Smith before thinking on moving on. You're getting a finished product in Wilson and are hinging everything on him finding a 2008-Kurt Warner resurgence this season. If he doesn't. Well, your next option is Justin Fields, hoping he's not another Trubisky, and early reports aren't encouraging on him. That's why people aren't stoked. We're throwing stuff at free agents HOPING they'll be good, instead of seeing if they guy we drafted is good.
I warned dudes that the grass isn't greener on the other side. Many times teams sign an "upgrade" only to find out he isn't all that and it puts them into another wasted season.
It will please a few people on here (mainly 2-3) if Wilson flops this year. They’ll say it won’t but it really will. It’s as bad as dwins wanting Kenny to fail.
If you search my posts over the last few years, I was never very high on KP. I thought he had potential but also had weaknesses in his game. That said, his one game after Canada was fired showed a very different KP. Sure, there were no TDs, but that's due to a multitude of factors. The fact is we saw a very different KP that game. Then, he got injured and after that, never had a chance to get back in and compete last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler
So, while I was not as high on KP as many of you, I'm also not as down on KP as many of you are now. I think he still has plenty of potential and can be a decent to good QB in this league for several years. By comparison, Wilson has only a few years left at most, and then we're right back in the same situation. Only at that point, our star safety and LBer will be aging out, so there'll be even less room for error if we want to win a game.
My being down on the decision to bring in Wilson really has nothing to do with him or his capability. If he takes the team to the SB this year, I'll be ecstatic. But unless we win the SB, I don't think the tradeoff was worth it when combined with everything mentioned above.
There was never a clear evaluation of Kenny other than the game after Canada got fired. Once Kenny was healthy, he should’ve returned to the line up. Playoff game or not. He was the best chance they had to win that game and if he was the guy, he should’ve come right back to his job when healthy. Clearly the organization wasn’t sure what to do and went with the somewhat warm hand of Rudolph which in turn failed…just as Kenny may have but you would’ve gotten to see Kenny in the real offense once again and under pressure. Maybe he fails, maybe he doesn’t…but going with Rudolph, who we all know what he is, crapped up the situation even more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craic
i disagree, there might be a few i told you so’s but no one here will be happy, were all steeler fans here, in spite of the differences of opinion, except Willy of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by DesertSteel
except I didnt want him to fail , I just knew he was gonna ... but no point getting caught up in the semanticsQuote:
Originally Posted by DesertSteel
I don’t think anyone has ever rooted or hoped a specific player would fail. Just made predictions based on the available evidence.
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Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west
I think you're both wrong. There are definitely people on this board who would be really satisfied with Wilson flopping and Fields being a bust.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
I agree. I would bet voice of treason would rather see KP succeed than Wilson or Fields. Which makes zero sense. We as fans have zero impact on who plays QB for the Steelers or if Tomlin is the HC. As a fan you root for the team put on the field. I question Tomlins clock management and challenges every game but if you watch any team for 17 games I’d do the same. I certainly don’t question Tomlin changing OC and QBs from last year. It’s what you do when you have worst offense in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by DesertSteel
I agree. There are definitely quite a few “I told you so” people here that would love nothing more than to celebrate their “knowledge”. There’s also a few that aren’t really fans of the team but come around and act like they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by DesertSteel
The scenario that Wilson fails, Hurts gets injured and Pickett plays well would make a few “fans” very happy…fire Tomlin thread would get a nice bump too!!