Easy now. Cleveland will always be on that resume. :chuckle:Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
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Easy now. Cleveland will always be on that resume. :chuckle:Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
Except if you knew the story of his tenure in Cleveland, you'd realize what a good job he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteelMember
I have to say, I'm surprised at the lack of general knowledge on display in this Steeler forum. You guys should know a lot more then you apparently do.
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SUMMARY: Stealing your opponent's signals has always been common and neverbeen illegal.
Said former Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Bill Cowher, "We had people that always tried to steal signals. Stealing someone's signals was a part of the game, and everyone attempted to do that." Admitted former Dallas Cowboys head coach Jimmy Johnson: "When I came into the NFL, back in 1989, I talked to a Kansas City scout and he said, 'Here's what we do, we videotape the opposing team's signals and then we sync it up with the game film.' So I did it." Bragged, former Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan: "Our guy keeps a pair of binoculars on their signal-callers every game, with any luck, we have their defensive signals figured out by halftime. Sometimes, by the end of the first quarter."
NFL commissioner and former Jets public relations intern Rodger Goodell confirmed this himself in 2008, saying that the issue was not stealing signals, that is allowed "and it is done quite widely." The issue is where and how you record them. If you chose to videotape them, then (after 2006) you have to do that from a league approved location. If you hire lip readers, they can do it from your coaches lap, if you want.
After 2006, examples of allowed videotaping locations are: the luxury boxes, media booths and other enclosed spaces. Expressly prohibited locations are the sidelines, the field, locker rooms, the coaches booth or any other place accessible to team coaches and staff. The point of the rule is to not allow the footage to be useful in the current game.
Prior to the September 6, 2006 memo and, 2007 follow up, from NFL head of football operations Ray Anderson, there was no league restriction on filming location, which is the reason the memo was sent.
Many NFL head coaches have downplayed the significance of the practice, saying that attempting to decipher opponent's signals was a long standing practice and entirely common throughout the league.
http://yourteamcheats.com/PIT#Spygate-1960
Whether it "shocks" you or not, it's cheating. You asked for proof. Those 5 players are 5 examples of proven cheating. Lying, coverups, illegal play on the field, the list goes on and on.Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
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Tell us again what it says are "EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED LOCATIONS" for spying signals? It's right there. Proven cheating. Lost a draft pick over that one too.Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
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Originally Posted by Born2Steel
No, the point is do the Patriots cheat more then other teams? Clearly they do not. Players from all across the league, including the Steelers, use PEDs.
Like your team when they play the Patriots, you've lost.
You asked for proof. I supplied proof. Your argument is invalid.Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
Only someone who has routinely lost to us would call it cheating. The commissioner himself specifically stated there was no cheating. Like your team, you're losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
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Well, I mean I could be as petty as you, and list the players on your team that have used PEDs. But I'm not a fan of a losing franchise like you are, so I can be magnanimous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
I've never met anyone from MA that isn't an arrogant, loud mouthed dick...
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Originally Posted by smokin3000gt
Now lets not get personal. As fans of the worlds greatest sport we can do better.
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Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
No, those are actual counts of cheating. When players get suspended for PEDs, and the team loses a draft pick for a violation, that is getting caught cheating. Lying on the IR report, which Bill has been caught doing more than once, is cheating. There's a reason the IR is there. The ONLY one I can see letting the Pats off on is using an illegal formation, if only because they did it to beat the Ratbirds.
Now I know this maybe, is, over your head, but there are lots of rules that if you brake them, it doesn't mean you cheated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
We'll try again slowly, and by all means take a day or two to think it over. Don't rush yourself. For some this maybe too subtle to grasp.
Cheating is when you tape, review the tape, and use the information you gained, all in the same game. See how that works? Just filming isn't cheating no matter where you film from. Now, you can break the location rule that they put into place after 2006. That's what the Patriots did. But, the commissioner, aka His Royal Highness, specifically said the tapes were not viewed. Get it? There was no cheating charge. Tough for you I know.
Good luck.
P.S. You should be the defensive coordinator for the Steelers. You'd fit right in. Patriots 36 Steelers 17
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Look out, there's a storm brewing in Foxborough.
Tom Brady and Brandin Cooks
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Brandin Cooks? Lol.
I'm glad you went on the record with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
I second it...lol
The rats signed the better receiver
And didn't trade a 1st and a 3rd to get him eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by vasteeler
And I'm sure you treated this guy with the same disregard.
>>Chris Hogan Destroys Steelers’ Defense As Patriots Cruise To Super Bowl
by Zack Cox on Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 12:19AM
FOXBORO, Mass. — On the final play of the New England Patriots’ third possession Sunday night, Tom Brady turned his eyes toward the end zone and saw Chris Hogan standing there, all alone, without a single Pittsburgh Steelers defender within 10 yards of him. It was a sign of things to come. Throughout the AFC Championship Game, Hogan and Brady worked together to systematically dismantle the Steelers’ secondary, hooking up nine times on 12 targets for a Patriots playoff-record 180 yards and two touchdowns in a 36-17 victory that sent New England to Super Bowl LI. <<
http://nesn.com/2017/01/chris-hogan-destroys-steelers-defense-as-patriots-cruise-to-super-bowl/
Hogan didn't do anything special. That was totally our defense taking a s***
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Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
Riddle me this then Patsman....The Steelers, without Bell and Bryant, still managed to put 17pts up. At your place. What do you think is going to be the result WITH Bell and Bryant? You won't be able to triple cover AB in that scenario. The defense may still give up 30+, but our offense will put up 50.
^^^ The old injury excuse huh.
It is what it is. But you know it's right.
Didn't play:
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Didn't have:
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I really like Cooks. However, he is a very selfish player. Be aware. Locker room breakdown coming.
They must have felt they could absorb any issues.
I'm just going by what I hear from Saints media. He seems to be a bit of a baby if he doesn't get things his way. No doubt he's a very dynamic player. Reminds me of Desean Jackson. Great player, just weak between the ears, and all about the 'me'. If anybody can get him to work out it's probably Bill Buticheat.Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
This. They're all the same. We see these clowns all the time. It must really suck to only have five Lombardi's.Quote:
Originally Posted by smokin3000gt
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It's too bad he came here with the intent to troll because we actually enjoy fans in here from other teams when they're somewhat respectful..Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Steel
Perfect description of your average Patsie fan. And I swear, suggest that the Pats might have had help from cheating or even say that the Tuck Rule wasn't called properly and those crybabies will throw a hissy fit like you just insulted their mother. Honestly, I don't know which fanbase is the bigger crybaby fanbase, them or the 12th bandwagon from Rainy CityQuote:
Originally Posted by Lady Steel
The Patriots don't cheat! It's everyone else who don't live in Massachusetts who are wrong! :sarcasm:
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Originally Posted by BostonBlackie
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Originally Posted by BostonBlackie