Don't worry Tomlin will get real tough this week , no pool or ping pong for rookies that will fix the problem
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Don't worry Tomlin will get real tough this week , no pool or ping pong for rookies that will fix the problem
yes it is! :wink02:Quote:
Originally Posted by fansince'76
Exactly ! Stupid penalties all day long ! We gave them yard's equal to a complete football field ! Are you FK'N kidding me ?! And how aggravating it was to sit and watch that damn Tomlin's face on the sidelines ! Cowher would have had a 5 gal bucket full of spit by 3rd qtr.. Rooney's wake the FK up, your family's franchise and history is slowly being destroyed.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
So the solution to the problem is to get inches from a players face and yell and spit at them? I hadn't realized that this made more talented and mentally disciplined players.
And to think all that time wasted on the practice field and the weight room.
Yeah, it sure stopped Porter from getting ejected from a game for getting into a fight with a Browns player during pregame warmups...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
It sure stopped Burress from spiking the ball in the field of play and turning it over after catching what would have been a sure TD pass...
It sure stopped the team as a whole from consistently coming up small in the biggest of games...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4cdb8i64zQ :chuckle:Quote:
Originally Posted by fansince'76
Didn't Deon Figures get thrown out of a playoff game for kicking a Chiefs player in the skull?Quote:
Originally Posted by fansince'76
Didn't O'donnell and his WR's make the wrong reads and cause multiple horrendous INTs in the SB?
Just wanted to get in on the fun...
Are you fk'n kidding me Mojouw ? That's all you took from that thread ? LOL Yea, the solution must be the spitting....LOL
I'm not thrilled with Tomlin either, but I am getting really tired of the overly-romanticized revisionist history that is being played with Cowher's tenure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
It's about the only tangible action that has been proposed. I personally think Tomlin should bench Alllen, much like was done with Taylor by a certain spitting coach. However, as I have pointed out -- who plays then? I would also look at benching Beachum and Wallace -- but who plays then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moose
No one wants to talk about that. Just easier to say that Tomlin and co. are lazy, call a bad game, etc. Allows everyone to deny the fact that this is an average team in the midst of a significant rebuild.
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I agree. Here is some actual data:Quote:
Originally Posted by fansince'76
"In 2000 Bill Cowher was in his eighth year as head coach of the Steelers, having succeeded legendary coach Chuck Noll in 1992. By this time Cowher had compiled a record of 86-57 (.597 winning percentage) and had led the Steelers to playoff appearances in his first six years and one lost Super Bowl, although in the three years prior to the arrival of Colbert, from 1998 through 2000, Cowher struggled with two losing seasons in a row while finishing 9-7 in 2000 and compiling a 22-26 record and failed to make the playoffs all three years. By comparison, Mike Tomlin in his first six years after having succeeded Cowher in 2007 has compiled a record of 63-33 (.656 winning percentage) and has been to two Super Bowls, winning one and has not had a losing season, but has failed to make the playoffs twice."
Thanks Mojouw for the comparison stats. I'm just getting tired of this losing to teams we should be beating (especially at home). And then hearing nothing but lame excuses from the coaches the next day. These losses are what makes/breaks seasons and play offs chances.
I would agree. This loss could mean the difference between being the second wild card at 9-7 or 10-6 and sitting at home at 8-8 again (or even 9-7 for that matter!).Quote:
Originally Posted by Moose
I really do understand that. I also get that some amount of the players on the field performance, or lack thereof has to reflect back on the coaching staff.
But I argue that I am not sure this team is that much better than 9-7 with anyone coaching it. Also, we need to acknowledge the good things this staff did on Sunday. Such as:
1. Integrated 3 new starters to the defense (Moats, Spence, and whatever dirtball was playing nickle corner) in one week. Not easy.
2. Seems to have a knack for developing WRs. Wheaton is really stepping up.
3. Got Gilbert to pull his head out of his ass and play somewhere in the neighborhood of his contract/potential.
4. Have Pouncey and DeCastro playing as a devastating run-blocking combination.
5. Have "fixed" the DL issues (not sure if that was because the Bucs threw for over 300+ yards...). Have Thomas even contributing.
6. Over the course of last season and this off-season have pulled a lethal run game out of their asses.
I get that the penalties are frustrating. I get that some don't like this coaching staff's demeanor and press conference style, but they aren't just sitting around doing nothing.
I think the coaches are 'doing' things, but also NOT doing things. Just looking at the tampa game, why in the hell wouldn't you let Ben throw the ball at the end of the game when it was 3rd and 5 with 40+ seconds left to win the game ? Why would you run a delay and end up losing 2 yds? That was a really bad call. You and I know Ben could have picked that up with a couple pass plays against tampa and at least run a couple plays to eat up 40 seconds before having to punt. And it's the coaches fault to put up with these penalties that are game killers ! Taunting ? Dancing in the endzone ? Come on. You're a player that is caught smoking dobbies I don' think drawing attention to yourself is a good idea. Act like a professional. Face mask penalties. Unnecessary roughness. These were stupid ass penalties that should be dealt with immediately. And we both know that it wasn't just the tampa game, it's been going on in too many games. And Tomilin is doing nothing about it, just lip service come Monday mornings. No more excuses.
Agree with the offensive play calling on the last drive. Marred an otherwise good game plan by Haley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moose
As to the penalties -- see this database.
http://www.nflpenalties.com/
Prior to this season the Steelers have been one of the least penalized teams in the league. This season, they are in some good company.
Again, just out of curiosity, how many of yesterday's penalties were actually "non penalties". Like Troy and Mike Mitchells were in the Ravens game that cost us 30 yards but not fined.
Really...what does Cowher have to do with Tomlin's inability to coach the basics?
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/.../719/win15.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by jb500ex
LOL FS.Quote:
Originally Posted by fansince'76
Guess ole' JB Troll forgot that after doing that, we actually started winning and came within a fieldgoal of making the playoffs last year.
ExactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
Here's a great example. When was the last time Le'Veon Bell got a taunting penalty at Michigan State? I'll give you a hint… Never!
How come you don't post your wife's pic anymore?Quote:
Originally Posted by fansince'76
Did you go to the Almost made the playoffs at 8-8 parade ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Craic
Truly, I don't remember any non penalties. However, this crew was atrocious because they missed a lot of holding calls.Quote:
Originally Posted by stillers4me
Does your mother still let you live in her basement?Quote:
Originally Posted by jb500ex
can you imagine this team without ben?
Is that a trick question?Quote:
Originally Posted by muncher
Knew it was just a matter of time before the other half of the "clown posse" showed up...
After the 1999 season, the Steelers has decided to keep Cowher but they fired Tom Donahoe and that was after two non-playoff season
If the Steelers has not a winning season for a 3rd straight season, the Steelers will have to make major changes...If the Steelers have 8-8 or worse this year, next year will not be better because the schedule is going to be brutal
Oh hell, isn't that something to look forward to ! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
So, um...where were you last week? Did you get lost trying to find this forum or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by muncher
Did you go play in traffic yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by jb500ex
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Originally Posted by X-Terminator
he got lost looking for the street
Watching the Patriots truly suck on defense. No talent but ya know what they are not getting penalties and when one guy did he got an ear full and sent to the locker room a play before halftime. I read an article today saying how this team plays with too much bravado for a twice 8-8 team sitting at 2-2. And that's the damn truth the coaches should be building some humility. I hope they are terribly embarrassed . And I don't think a beating of the jags should be any reason to feel better
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Originally Posted by NCSteeler
Honestly I am not so sure they beat the Jags .... they ALWAYS give us a hard time even when we had good teams
so in my mind its no certainty we win Sunday and I am half tempted to lay some money down on the Jags but these steelers would probably break my bank like they break my heart so I won't
I see where you are coming from, but I feel not sure I agree with all of it. I wouldn't exactly say that Art has a disdain for franchise quarterbacks when he has stated that he would like for Ben to retire a Steeler. I feel that if Art did have such a disdain, Ben wouldn't be coming back when after his contract is up and we all know Ben will be a Steeler for the rest of his career. Plus, we don't have actual proof that he has really gotten in the way of things. If there is a newspaper article or anything that shows he has gotten in the way of things, then I stand corrected.Quote:
Originally Posted by X-Terminator
When it comes to Ben, I still think he is a play maker and an elite quarterback. He might not scramble as much anymore and make plays that way, but he can stay in the pocket more often and make a great pass to make a play because of an improved offensive line and the offensive system that calls for quick reads and throws which in turn is to help Ben with hits from opposing players. Maybe that is why some feel he doesn't have his mojo anymore. I think Ben still has a great arm. He can still throw deep, he can sling a ball in tight spaces, and he is pretty accurate. Plus his pocket awareness has really increased the past few years and he can still scramble and make a play when needed.
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And would allow players to be late to team meetings without being disciplined at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by fansince'76
I don't know if Art II has a "disdain" for franchise QBs per say, I just think he badly lacks the football acumen to understand how the game has changed over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by steelerdude15
The steelers are the worst team in the AFC North....Unacceptable
I am Dwinsgames and I approve of this messageQuote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
And after this week, nothing was done to discourage the title of this thread...
Fire Kevin Colbert as well